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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #420 on: April 20, 2010, 05:36:14 am »
Shaun,
i think he bought the fish at the local Safeway store stored them in
ice and then took the pic by the boat   lol!!!!!!!

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #421 on: April 20, 2010, 01:04:45 pm »
This was once a highly sensitive program at Norton AFB.

SR-71 Blackbird







In April 1986, following an attack on American

soldiers in a Berlin disco, President Reagan

ordered the bombing of Muammar Qaddafi's

terrorist camps in Libya . My duty was to fly

over Libya and take photos recording the

damage our F-111's had inflicted.. Qaddafi

had established a 'line of death,' a territorial

marking across the Gulf of Sidra , swearing

to shoot down any intruder that crossed the

boundary. On the morning of April 15,

I rocketed past the line at 2,125 mph.



I was piloting the SR-71 spy plane, the world's

fastest jet, accompanied by a Marine Major (Walt),

the aircraft's reconnaissance systems officer (RSO).

We had crossed into Libya and were approaching

our final turn over the bleak desert landscape when

Walt informed me that he was receiving missile

launch signals. I quickly increased our speed,

calculating the time it would take for the

weapons-most likely SA-2 and SA-4 surface-to-air

missiles capable of Mach 5 - to reach our altitude.

I estimated that we could beat the rocket-powered

missiles to the turn and stayed our course, betting

our lives on the plane's performance.



After several agonizingly long seconds, we made

the turn and blasted toward the Mediterranean .

'You might want to pull it back,' Walt suggested.

It was then that I noticed I still had the throttles

full forward. The plane was flying a mile every 1.6

seconds, well above our Mach 3.2 limit. It was

the fastest we would ever fly. I pulled the throttles

to idle just south of Sicily , but we still overran

the refuelling tanker awaiting us over Gibraltar .



Scores of significant aircraft have been produced

in the 100 years of flight, following the achievements

of the Wright brothers, which we celebrate in

December. Aircraft such as the Boeing 707,

the F-86 Sabre Jet, and the P-51 Mustang are

among the important machines that have flown

our skies. But the SR-71, also known as the

Blackbird, stands alone as a significant contributor

to Cold War victory and as the fastest plane

ever-and only 93 Air Force pilots ever steered

the 'sled,' as we called our aircraft.





The SR-71 was the brainchild of Kelly Johnson,

the famed Lockheed designer who created the

P-38, the F-104 Starfighter, and the U-2. After

the Soviets shot down Gary Powers' U-2 in 1960,

Johnson began to develop an aircraft that would

fly three miles higher and five times faster than

the spy plane-and still be capable of photographing

your license plate. However, flying at 2,000 mph

would create intense heat on the aircraft's skin.

Lockheed engineers used a titanium alloy to

construct more than 90 percent of the SR-71,

creating special tools and manufacturing

procedures to hand-build each of the 40 planes.

Special heat-resistant fuel, oil, and hydraulic

fluids that would function at 85,000 feet and

higher also had to be developed.




In 1962, the first Blackbird successfully flew, and

in 1966, the same year I graduated from high school,

the Air Force began flying operational SR-71 missions.

I came to the program in 1983 with a sterling record

and a recommendation from my commander,

completing the weeklong interview and meeting

Walt, my partner for the next four years He would

ride four feet behind me, working all the cameras,

radios, and electronic jamming equipment. I joked

that if we were ever captured, he was the spy and

I was just the driver. He told me to keep the pointy

end forward.

We trained for a year, flying out of Beale AFB in

California , Kadena Airbase in Okinawa, and RAF

Mildenhall in England . On a typical training mission,

we would take off near Sacramento, refuel over

Nevada, accelerate into Montana, obtain high Mach

over Colorado, turn right over New Mexico, speed

across the Los Angeles Basin, run up the West Coast,

turn right at Seattle, then return to Beale. Total flight

time: two hours and 40 minutes.

One day, high above Arizona , we were monitoring

the radio traffic of all the mortal airplanes below us.

First, a Cessna pilot asked the air traffic controllers

to check his ground speed. 'Ninety knots,' ATC replied.

A Bonanza soon made the same request.

'One-twenty on the ground,' was the reply. To our

surprise, a navy F-18 came over the radio with a

ground speed check. I knew exactly what he was

doing. Of course, he had a ground speed indicator

in his cockpit, but he wanted to let all the

bug-smashers in the valley know what real speed

was 'Dusty 52, we show you at 620 on the ground,'

ATC responded.





The situation was too ripe. I heard

the click of Walt's mike button in the rear seat.

In his most innocent voice, Walt startled the

controller by asking for a ground speed check

from 81,000 feet, clearly above controlled airspace.

In a cool, professional voice, the controller replied,

' Aspen 20, I show you at 1,982 knots on the ground.'

We did not hear another transmission on that

frequency all the way to the coast.


< /SPAN>

The Blackbird always showed us something new,

each aircraft possessing its own unique personality.

In time, we realized we were flying a national

treasure. When we taxied out of our revetments

for takeoff, people took notice. Traffic congregated

near the airfield fences, because everyone wanted

to see and hear the mighty SR-71 You could not be

a part of this program and not come to love the

airplane. Slowly, she revealed her secrets to us as

we earned her trust.

One moonless night, while flying a routine training

mission over the Pacific, I wondered what the sky

would look like from 84,000 feet if the cockpit lighting

were dark. While heading home on a straight course,

I slowly turned down all of the lighting, reducing the

glare and revealing the night sky.





Within seconds, I turned the lights back up, fearful that the jet would

know and somehow punish me. But my desire to see

the sky overruled my caution, I dimmed the lighting

again. To my amazement, I saw a bright light outside

my window. As my eyes adjusted to the view, I

realized that the brilliance was the broad expanse

of the Milky Way, now a gleaming stripe across the

sky.





Where dark spaces in the sky had usually

existed, there were now dense clusters of sparkling

stars. Shooting stars flashed across the canvas every

few seconds. It was like a fireworks display with no

sound.





I knew I had to get my eyes back on the

instruments, and reluctantly I brought my attention

back inside. To my surprise, with the cockpit lighting

still off, I could see every gauge, lit by starlight. In

the plane's mirrors, I could see the eerie shine of

my gold spacesuit incandescently illuminated in a

celestial glow. I stole one last glance out the window.

Despite our speed, we seemed still before the

heavens, humbled in the radiance of a much greater

power. For those few moments, I felt a part of

something far more significant than anything we

were doing in the plane. The sharp sound of Walt's

voice on the radio brought me back to the tasks at

hand as I prepared for our descent.




San Diego Aerospace Museum

The SR-71 was an expensive aircraft to operate.

The most significant cost was tanker support, and

in 1990, confronted with budget cutbacks, the Air

Force retired the SR-71.





The SR-71 served six presidents, protecting America

for a quarter of a century. Unbeknownst to most

of the country, the plane flew over North Vietnam ,

Red China, North Korea , the Middle East, South

Africa , Cuba , Nicaragua , Iran , Libya , and the

Falkland Islands . On a weekly basis, the SR-71

kept watch over every Soviet nuclear submarine

and mobile missile site, and all of their troop

movements. It was a key factor in winning the

Cold War.

I am proud to say I flew about 500 hours in this

aircraft. I knew her well. She gave way to no plane,

proudly dragging her sonic boom through enemy

backyards with great impunity. She defeated every

missile, outran every MiG, and always brought us

home. In the first 100 years of manned flight, no

aircraft was more remarkable.





The Blackbird had outrun nearly 4,000 missiles,

not once taking a scratch from enemy fire.

On her final flight, the Blackbird , destined for

the Smithsonian National Air and Space

Museum, sped from Los Angeles to Washington

in 64 minutes, averaging 2,145 mph and

setting four speed records.
Life is like a jar of Jalapenos-- What you eat today will burn your ass tomorrow!.

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #422 on: April 20, 2010, 01:34:05 pm »
Bee964.

I can remember watching a TV program on the Blackbird, ....what intrigued me was, that the plane leaked like a sieve on the ground, as it relied on air pressure to seal the plane up tight. As the airframe needed to cope with extreme expansion and contractions....

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #423 on: April 20, 2010, 02:06:01 pm »
Quote from: 'David5o' pid='37355' dateline='1271784845'

Bee964.

I can remember watching a TV program on the Blackbird, ....what intrigued me was, that the plane leaked like a sieve on the ground, as it relied on air pressure to seal the plane up tight. As the airframe needed to cope with extreme expansion and contractions....

David....


I remember that too. I think that they would put just enough fuel in to get it airborne and then refuel it in flight because it was not so much of a fire hazard to do this way.

Another plane I thought was awsome too was the F-15 E. The program I watched on that plane said the pilot could throttle up to full speed standing straight up... fully armed! I think the program was called "Brute Force" and was narrated by George C Scott.

I have always been fascinated with planes. I fly model airplanes. Flown them for about 30 years. And no, I don't fly model turbines. I am getting old and I can't react fast enough for them. You have to think about three manuvers ahead of what you are doing. My brain is not that fast anymore. Hahaha :icon_cheesygrin:

Dave C
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 02:09:39 pm by Bee964 »
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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #424 on: April 21, 2010, 03:07:29 am »
Bee,
I saw the SR-71 once while in the Navy.  I was amazed by the fact that the pilots could not get out right away as the plane was
so hot.  It was a sight to behold.  It is the fastest plane in the world and still is.  No one has boken the speed record.  We knew
that the top speed was over 2000 miles per hour, and the paperwork stated that the total top speed of the plane was
Top Secret and was over that stated.  So figuring 2000 mph, I am willing to bet it went way over that.  Yes I agree it leaked,
as there was jet fuel all over the runway when they fueled her up.  A totally awsome plane.

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #425 on: April 21, 2010, 10:46:24 am »
rockycoon / Dave C ,

As i remember, .... the fuel was a special concoction, that had a very high flash point. High enough for them to use the fuel as a coolant on the airframe.

They built the plane loosely, ....so that it had room to seal/tighten up at high altitudes, so as i understand it, everything leaked a little at ground zero. ...lol!!!


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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #426 on: April 21, 2010, 12:22:53 pm »
I think all the speed records it holds are still valid. I think the flight time from L.A. to DC is still a record for flight. That was the final flight for that plane too. I will try to save the picture of its flight records and post it here. One awesome plane indeed!

Dave C

I have added the graphic of its speed record as well as a picture of the plane for those that don't know what a SR-71 Blackbird looks like. And Rocky 2145 average miles per hour from L.A. to DC.

Dave C
« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 12:43:57 pm by Bee964 »
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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #427 on: April 21, 2010, 12:35:34 pm »
it sure would be nice to come up with a different plane for the
flights between the USA and CHINA  14 hours is a killer flight

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #428 on: April 21, 2010, 12:49:48 pm »
Ted,

I know what you mean. My butt is still sore from the flight from Singapore. 19 hours from Singapore to Washington DC with an hour between planes in Tokyo. I think that is where I caught this nasty head cold too. In the plane. There was a very sick little boy a couple rows behind me.

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #429 on: April 21, 2010, 01:04:41 pm »
yes and on top of that the food stinks also
 but i do manage to get good coffee from the ladies
 when everyone is asleep since i cant sleep on the plane

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #430 on: April 21, 2010, 07:26:04 pm »
Quote from: 'Bee964' pid='37412' dateline='1271868588'

I think that is where I caught this nasty head cold too. In the plane. There was a very sick little boy a couple rows behind me.





I always wear a surgical mask on planes. Parents with sick kids should do everybody a flavour and make their sick kids wear one ... especially on a plane. Or rather, the stewardess should have offered that kid to wear one.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 07:26:40 pm by Chong »

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #431 on: April 21, 2010, 07:36:06 pm »
I noted that the word was "average" mph.  Not total mph.  I will bet the total top speed is still unknown.   And by the way,
the space musium may have one, but NASA has several that are still active and flying today.

By the way, tell the stew to cover the mask with alchole to kill the germs, preferabley whiskey...lol
« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 07:38:02 pm by rockycoon »

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #432 on: April 21, 2010, 07:58:59 pm »
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Unlikely you'll catch any bug on a modern plane unless your sitting next to an affected person.
The amount of air changes and filtration is such that makes plane flying very safe indeed.

Remember the good old days when you could light up a ciggy?? the next seat down from the smoking section would hardly know there was a smoker behind them. The airflow/amount of air changes and Super Hepa filtration saw to that.....

People have been watching too many films, where  plane fulls of passengers are contaminated by a single passenger, ....It's just never going to happen!!!!

If you managed to pick anything up on your journey, the chances are it was at the airport  NOT on the plane you traveled on.....

David.....
« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 08:00:07 pm by David5o »

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #433 on: April 21, 2010, 10:17:11 pm »
although the food is enough to make you sick on long flights. lol!!!
 airports are notorious for a good place to catch a bug when traveling

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RE: General Thread For This and That!!....
« Reply #434 on: April 21, 2010, 11:33:17 pm »
Once out of the United States, do they allow you to smoke on the planes ?  Like which airlines will allow this or is it forbidden all
over the world ?