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Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« on: December 02, 2009, 06:43:39 am »
I post this and will make no comment as I found the advice to very true in many respects.
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•   Casual dating as we know it in the West does not exist in China. Although this is slowly changing in highly Westernized cities such as Shanghai and Beijing, most girls in China do not believe in serial casual dating. In a current study of dating and marital preferences among young adults in China, only 38 percent of the female respondents disagreed with the statement that it is best to date and later marry only one man during their lifetimes.  Consequently, for the majority of Chinese girls you will meet, a second or third meeting (date) will indicate to them a serious intention on your part of, at the very least, mutual exclusivity or perhaps even marriage.

•   If the girl explicitly tells you that she "really likes" (w? h?n x?huan n?), "loves" (w? ài n?), or "misses" you (w? xi?ng n?), you need to keep in mind that these words have a far greater and significant meaning in China than they do in the West. When a Chinese girl expresses these sentiments to you or displays any type of physical affection at all, it typically means that she has already "chosen" you as a future spouse.

•   Virginity still means something in China, even though it presently has little meaning in our respective Western countries. In our current study of dating and marital preferences, 83 percent of the female participants, ranging in age from 16- to 28-years old, were still virgins, and age only accounted for about 6 percent of the variance in virginity (ibid). Unless you are quite serious about the girl, or you know for a fact that she is only interested in a "friend with benefits," it is wise to avoid any physical intimacy with her. By all means, you need to be entirely honest about your intentions from the very start in order to avoid misunderstandings or worse.

•   Much to your surprise, and, paradoxically perhaps (in light of the relative importance of virginity at marriage), you will find that many girls are actually eager to sleep with you on the second or third date (in fact, they are often the ones to initiate it), but you should exercise extreme caution in how that apparent sexual aggressiveness is interpreted:   For most "good" Chinese girls, an offer of sex is almost always a gesture of good faith in contemplation of marriage. It's intended to be a binding dealmaker and that is how it should be responded to, one way or the other. Above all, always be honest about your intentions—whatever those may be.

•   A sure-fire way to confirm that the girl is quite serious about you is if you learn that she has spoken to her mother about you. As a rule, girls will not discuss any man they are seeing (not even with their girlfriends) unless they have decided that this is the person they want to be with. Related, if the girl invites you to meet her family, this is symbolically equivalent to a formal announcement of engagement in the West. It would be best not to agree to meet her family unless you have marriage in mind.

•   In China, meeting the girl's parents is tantamount to an announcement of engagement in the West. Unless you are seriously considering marriage to this girl, do NOT agree to meet her parents.
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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 08:13:56 am »
Yeah Willy that's a good article, and pretty much goes along the lines of what I've found out.

Miss Wu has knitted me a scarf - how much of a good sign is this that our relationship is serious :icon_cheesygrin:?

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 09:07:42 am »
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Yeah Willy that's a good article, and pretty much goes along the lines of what I've found out.

Miss Wu has knitted me a scarf - how much of a good sign is this that our relationship is serious :icon_cheesygrin:?


Either that and it wiill keep you warm or it could be a very long scarf which will come with full instructions to tie one end around a high structure and the other around your neck!!!!!  

But do not worry - if it comes by ordinary post the moths will have had it before it arrives and it will be fit for neither task.

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 10:48:27 am »
so true what you said

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 12:58:22 pm »
:dodgy: hrumphfrmrofrgula. sauphroxyligivronula. :angel:

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 02:16:55 pm »
Willy

I love reading anything about this subject. I'm interested too in the Chinese angle to it all too *laughs*

But as an aside, in relation to the last dot point, about meeting the parents being tantamount to the announcement of an engagement, I am not sure I would go as far as that. As a general rule, my thought on the matter is that meeting the parents means that you are under serious consideration. But if the experience of the brothers here is any guide, it's not really tountamount to the announcement of an engagement.

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 02:26:41 pm »
I disagree with you on one point Willy. Which is "Although this is slowly changing in highly Westernized cities such as Shanghai and Beijing...."

In Shanghai or Beijing, there are generally two different types of woman: Locals and non-locals. By locals I mean those who were born and raised in Shanghai or Beijing and lived there their whole lives. By non-local I mean those from the other cities who came to Beijing and Shanghai for work/college, etc. They usually come from the lesser cities.

For the locals, the serial dating is the standard specially among the middle to upper middle class. For the non-locals, its what you said is true...

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 02:46:49 pm »
Willy, I'm not sure i agree.

The meet the parents stuff is pretty accurate but the love making ..not accurate.
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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 04:31:35 pm »
My 02c worth.....
Yan met me at Port Shenzhen, organised a taxi, organised the Hotel, and well .. organised me. Not a show of any Plan B eventuating :-)
A few days(nights)  later she asked that I meet her family - brothers, sisters in law etc etc. So we had a forever lunch - on my plastic.
Subsequently it turned out that she had outlined her intentions to them all  (but not to me) and I was being sniffed over by the family bloodhounds.
My conclusions:
(1) Behind that China Doll appearance there is often a hidden agenda and a steely determination to advance same...
     but its done - dare I say it - in the inscrutable Chinese way
(2) Long term stability is far more important than short term pleasure. Though one can be a means to the other  :-)
(3) Honour, integrity and responsibilty for others counts - something a lot of western woman seem to have forgotten  :-)
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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 05:14:35 pm »
Virginity.

This went out the window when Willy arrived. I think we all agree to that. :)

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 08:34:27 pm »
Sorry Brothers all - there are things in our tadpoles that no amount of Viagra will cure :-(
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The study, by Tokyo University of Agriculture, appears in the journal Human Reproduction.

Although the study was conducted on mice, the researchers believe it could apply to all mammals - including humans.

They studied mice created with genetic material from two mothers, but no father.

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 11:07:24 pm »
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They believe it allows males to grow bigger bodies - but at the expense of their longevity.



I hope they are right because,then, me and Scottish Rob are due to collect pensions for a long, long time!!!  

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 11:18:31 pm »
Good post Willy,

But the times they are a changing !
Bloggers such as Liu Man Yin aka "Lost Sparrow", and Mu Zimei (Muzi mei) have been breaking and shaking cultural taboos in China since 2003. They and others have been talking about sex, with openly sexual blogs for a while now and Liu's outspoken posts include a "bedside encyclopedia" of love-making noises. Broken down by the type of response it can elicit from your lover, and by geographical regions in China -- that is, how pillow-talk may sound in regional dialect or slang. She talks openly about masturbation  and muses about why men are afraid to say "I love you."  She recently joked that nowadays, if you're on a date with a Chinese man, the first thing that comes out of his mouth is, You're not going to blog about me, are you?
Mu Zimei on the other hand has shifted to podcasting  One recent podcast was an hour-long sound track of an amorous encounter, starting with Please come in and finishing in climactic groans, panting, and shrieking. It gets about 10,000 visits a day.

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RE: Sex and the Modern Chinese Lady
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2009, 11:25:36 pm »
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Mu Zimei on the other hand has shifted to podcasting  One recent podcast was an hour-long sound track of an amorous encounter, starting with Please come in and finishing in climactic groans, panting, and shrieking. It gets about 10,000 visits a day.


Is there an English translation podcast available??   But then I expect the groans, panting and shrieking are an international language as I have personally established!!!

Willy
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 12:16:33 am »
Willy :icon_cheesygrin:

Muzi Me does her podcasts for http://www.bokee.com/ now. Here's a link to some of her old blog pages for anyone who is interested:angel:, you will have to translate them and if you use google they are a bit strange to say the least! http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.wenxue.com/T3/?q=blog/353:blush:
In the interest of balance I would of course have to mention that immoral foreign blogger Chinabounder http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20060828_1.htm  :icon_cheesygrin: Well he had to show up here sometime!
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