ESL Teaching...some observations

[David5o]

Dave,

A good point to bring up!! The Brits don't have to pay UK income tax, if they are out of the country for one full year, but are allowed 60, or is it maybe 90 days in the UK during that time. Obviously, if your working for a British company, and signed the contract in the UK you could also become liable for UK income tax... I've only ever worked for British companies overseas where i have signed contracts in the country of the project i was to work on.

I've spent most of my working life working overseas, and learned very quickly from old hands, how to cover paper trails, and most of the other trails and pitfalls that can befall an overseas professional. I never for instance, stopped my registry with the local doctors surgery, and still have a quick visit there on my trips home, just to make sure i stay on the books!! ....hahaha!!  I'm also still on the postal/voting register via my son's address... Oh, and i always pay yearly, the appropriate national insurance stamp. ...haha!!!

Iv'e never been able to understand the claim of another country on salaries earned through a foreign company and taxed in the country your now living in!!!  What possible claim can they have on taxing your income in a country outside of there jurisdiction How the hell do you lose citizenship of the country you were born in, as was your parents and there parents before them ?

David....

[Bee964]

Dave,

A good point to bring up!! The Brits don't have to pay UK income tax, if they are out of the country for one full year, but are allowed 60, or is it maybe 90 days in the UK during that time. Obviously, if your working for a British company, and signed the contract in the UK you could also become liable for UK income tax... I've only ever worked for British companies overseas where i have signed contracts in the country of the project i was to work on.

I've spent most of my working life working overseas, and learned very quickly from old hands, how to cover paper trails, and most of the other trails and pitfalls that can befall an overseas professional. I never for instance, stopped my registry with the local doctors surgery, and still have a quick visit there on my trips home, just to make sure i stay on the books!! ....hahaha!!  I'm also still on the postal/voting register via my son's address... Oh, and i always pay yearly, the appropriate national insurance stamp. ...haha!!!

Iv'e never been able to understand the claim of another country on salaries earned through a foreign company and taxed in the country your now living in!!!  What possible claim can they have on taxing your income in a country outside of there jurisdiction How the hell do you lose citizenship of the country you were born in, as was your parents and there parents before them ?

David....

I know what you mean about the money grab by the countries. When I was talking to my sister about all this she was concidering getting her French citizenship so she has a choice for citizenship, just incase. My step father, he was born in the US, moved to Canada for medical school, and stayed here and became a citizen. Get this, he has to pay income tax to the US, paid social security, has a number and all, but when he turned 65 they told him he is three weeks short of the time limit he had to pay social security while working in the US to collect it!!! So he can't collect it. I told him he maybe should talk to a lawyer about this. He still has to pay income tax to the US. They get your money any way they can. Part of the price for the countries we are citizens of I guess.

The only point I was making was that you have to be careful with what you do. You don't want to do something that will possibly harm you in the future. Thats all. I tend to over examine things too much. Guess I would have made a good detective. Hahahaha.

Dave C

[Vince G]

Bee, Something not right with the SS story? It goes by credits not weeks. And he could have collected at 62 if he wanted. He may have been paying Fed income tax but not into SS, (FICA)?

U.S. Social Security is a social insurance program funded through dedicated payroll taxes called Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA). Tax deposits are formally entrusted to Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund, or Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund, Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund or the Federal Supplementary Medical Insurance Trust Fund. The main part of the program is sometimes abbreviated OASDI (Old Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance) or RSDI (Retirement, Survivors, and Disability Insurance).

I have the credits to retire right now, but I'm not near 62 right now. :icon_cool: But as for the amount given at that age it looks like I'll retire at 70 yo. If you make over a certain amount (it was $150,000. a year) you couldn't collect. There are ways around this though? Which I won't put in writing. :icon_biggrin:

He should look into it.

[Bee964]

Bee, Something not right with the SS story? It goes by credits not weeks. And he could have collected at 62 if he wanted. He may have been paying Fed income tax but not into SS, (FICA)?

U.S. Social Security is a social insurance program funded through dedicated payroll taxes called Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA). Tax deposits are formally entrusted to Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund, or Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund, Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund or the Federal Supplementary Medical Insurance Trust Fund. The main part of the program is sometimes abbreviated OASDI (Old Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance) or RSDI (Retirement, Survivors, and Disability Insurance).

I have the credits to retire right now, but I'm not near 62 right now. :icon_cool: But as for the amount given at that age it looks like I'll retire at 70 yo. If you make over a certain amount (it was $150,000. a year) you couldn't collect. There are ways around this though? Which I won't put in writing. :icon_biggrin:

He should look into it.

Yes, you are right. It was credits, but it related to the time he paid into it while working there which was only a couple weeks short. If he had worked 1 more month in the US he would have been ok. He still wouldn't be able to collect it anyways. He makes over the limit still. My dad and I talked about this some 13 years ago. I should ask him if he ever got a lawyer for it. It is pretty much the same here in Canada. The amount you collect is based on what you pay into it.

Dave C

[ttwjr32]

after working for years like i did 33 to be exact i will be entitled to my s.sec. at age 62
even if i dont work these last 9 years living in china it is all based on your income and what
you paid into it over the years. even though i stopped paying taxes since living here my income
base and aquired credits are and will still be there when its time to collect. now what that will be
worth in dollars 9 years from now might be something to look at but it can be collected. i have a brother
who is retired now only held a legit job maybe 15 years  you cant count the states job he had at
about 1 dollar a day but he now gets 653 in retirement. but when he did work he didnt make much
money so hense the low retirement.