Ted , your last statement is very true and shows how things have changed over the last few years , now I would say that at least 8 out of 10 ladies have some access to a webcam via their families , agencies etc , and with my contacts on QQ [ some 56 of them ] they all have webcams , so yes for the newbies , do not accept anything less , I would say , at our home we even have inter house QQ with me downstairs and Sujuan upstairs , and me teaching her English sentences , and me being told to hurry upstairs to bed , he he , regards Robert and Yo .