Baby steps/getting started.

[trwme]

Roy

thats the spirit you have to start somewere
why not here  right?

Here's the cool thing Ted. I didn't have to insist, demand, or threaten to get her phone #. In my last emf to her I simply said that eventually, we needed to move past the emf to more direct contact, like a webcam meeting, or private email, or phone or texting, etc. I said we didn't have to do this right away, just soon.

And she chose to give me her phone # in the response to that. Guess she was ready for more direct contact also?

Mike and mustfocus have got it right.

lol....now that just figures. Here I am, I write articles and post them online all the time about God and the bible, and now I am involved with a woman named Sin.......8~O

At least her name doesn't mean 'sin'.....whew......................guess I better hurry up and give her that 'good english name' she asked me for!!!!!!!!!!!!

[David5o]

You are all right with ''Cin and Sin'', particularly Willy, who pointed out that it is mainly the pronunciation of ''Xin'' by Americans and the other English speakers ''Sin and Cin'' is exactly the same!

Roy, ....A little bit of ''Sin'' is always ''good'' in a relationship, ...adds just that little bit of spice as they say!! ...haha!!

David....

[trwme]

Roy, ....A little bit of ''Sin'' is always ''good'' in a relationship, ...adds just that little bit of spice as they say!! ...haha!!

David....

lol...well David, so far things have been 'sinfully' easy with this woman. Like I told Ted, I didn't have to throw a tantrum, make threats or demands to the agency, to get her personal contact info. I simply suggested that we needed to start talking more directly sometime soon, an BAM...very next letter contained her phone #. Makes me kinda suspicious in a way, given all the horror stories I've read here. I've also received plenty of normal everyday pics from her, same woman and still very attractive, although of course the home pics aren't quite the same as the professional ones. I guess time will tell. I'm suppose to call her saturday, and I just finished setting up my international calling plan on my phone.

[ttwjr32]

Roy,

just an fyi for you-- remember the 16 hour time difference when you call
her. i used to get up at 4 am and make my calls as it was 8 pm there.
im sure you know this but just wanted to say it incase in all the new
developments you might have forgotten

Ted

[trwme]

Roy,

just an fyi for you-- remember the 16 hour time difference when you call
her. i used to get up at 4 am and make my calls as it was 8 pm there.
im sure you know this but just wanted to say it incase in all the new
developments you might have forgotten

Ted

Hi Ted, thanks, I had remembered-and she had also reminded me, lol. But I think the difference between where I am and where she is is 14 hours? She's in Wuhan, I am just north of St. Louis. I googled up a site that gives the time differences between all major cities, and it told me the difference was 14 hours. so yeah...I'll be up before the sun. I get up around 4 a lot of times anyway, and it's a day off for me this week, so I can go back to bed for a bit if I want after we talk.

[shaun]

Roy,

My girls name is xin jiao and she pronounces it sing chow.  I like the sing much better.  Of course she speaks Cantonese so there may be a difference in pronunciation.

[ttwjr32]

Shaun there is a little difference between the two as i have found
out

[mustfocus]

Not going to go through the Xin/Sin/Cin debate again, but jiao is something you guys should know... because it's the base for Martin's favourite food, jiaozi. :icon_cheesygrin:

But that's in putonghua.  Ji-ow-zi...

[brett]

Not only did my Chinese teacher teach us jiaozi, she actually made us some!

We also had to learn beijing kaoya, but she hasn't brought that it yet :icon_cheesygrin:.

[mustfocus]

The problem is that Beijing Kaoya made traditionally will take several hours.  There are ways around that, but you need the proper gear.

[ttwjr32]

ok i will bite---whats bejing kaoya??

[mustfocus]

Peking duck. :icon_cheesygrin:

[shaun]

This only gets better.  Peggy is my little dumpling?

[trwme]

Ok, just got off the phone with Sin. She pronounced it 'Seen'. So Neil is the winner of the Xin pronounciation contest, lol.

What a beautiful sweet voice, and she sounded just as I imagined from our letters-very happy, playful, always laughing. We talked for about 45 minutes, she taught me a little chinese, and I helped her with her english pronunciations. Whatever small doubts I had before are gone now, going to halt all contacts with anyone else, although to be honest I've already pretty much done that, anyway.

I realize that at this point, it may or may not work out in the end, but I just want to say this. Cecily, our translator at the Wuhan agency, has done a great job. The personalty that came through in our letters is the personalty I just experienced on the phone. While it's obvious that some of the agencies aren't to be trusted, at this point I'd recommend Wuhan Oriental Love Consulting Company P509. I can't say what the rest of the translators there are like, but if Cecily is a good gauge they are excellent. And of course, it depends on how involved your lady is in the writing of the letters; Xin has told me she usually writes hers down and takes them to the agency. Maybe I just got incredibly lucky, but I am very satisfied with the money I've spent there.

[brett]

I might have to try that agency, I am drawn once again to Wuhan. When are you going Roy? I might go in late April if I find someone worth visiting.

Have you seen her on webcam?