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Offline Chad

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Happy beginning sad ending
« on: May 18, 2009, 05:42:37 am »
Well to start off I have been in Chengdu for a little over a week. I was met at the airport by my friend Ying and we got along great. So I asked her to marry me last monday and she said yes. It took until thursday to get paperwork from the American Embassy in order to get married. So we got married. This is the hard part to write here but I guess I will, what have I to lose. Four years ago I had prostate surgery to have it removed since it was full of cancer. Needless to say a side effect sometimes is ED. And of course it chose me to side effect. I had written Ying about the surgery and she was fine with it. Well I did not bring any kind of medicene because I felt if she seen the medicine she would assume I was here for sex. And I thought it was worth taking the chance that things just might work. Neeless to say things didnt work. So we were married on thursday and divorced today, Monday.

I suppose I am writing this just to let everyone know that she is a real person and even though some stuff I wrote seems to be overlooked if she was serios enough to marry me she was indeed serious to me. You should have seen how happy she was when we married. It's just another sign that the realtionship was real just as she was.

My flight out isn't until next monday so I don't really know what I am going to do. Maybe try to leave earlier I think.

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2009, 06:05:47 am »
Chad,

It took a lot of guts to tell the rest of us guys your situation. I feeel bad it had to end so abruptly for you. I am still unclear to why it couldn't work though, no pun intended. Was it because of ED and she needed the physical part of the relationship also. If it was me I would have tried a few more avenues before I got divorced. Hell, I fought tooth and nail to hold onto my first Chinese wife but to no avail she just wanted out. So I can sympathize and relate on that issue. Keep the faith brother there are plenty for all of us here. I officially broke it off with Mei last night after I moved out of her place two nights ago. Not worried because there are so many incredible women here. If you want you could travel down to Shenzhen and we could hang and find you a new girl. Thanks for the story for the newbies on the fence on this thing.
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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2009, 06:15:17 am »
I just got off the phone with the transolator girl asking her if we all could meet tommorrow to talk again. She says she will call Ying and see what she says. The transolator feels that Ying feels I lied to her about the ED thing. And yes Ying said that sex is very important in a marriage and she does not want me taking medicine to fix it. I told the transolator that men take it all the time. Maybe not here but in US they do. Look at all the adds on TV. I can not be the only unlucky in love guy.

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2009, 07:13:02 am »
I thought the default answer was to blame Chong, NOT blame ED! Sheeesh. hehe.

Serously Chad. I'm sorry to read this. I wonder if back when you told her about your condition that maybe she either misunderstood what it actually was or glanced over it without really paying attention to it. I know my wife has questioned me about things I had told her in the past and her reaction is like I never mentioned it before. I 'm not sure why this is but it sounds like if she had been more aware of it during the letters, maybe she'd have discussed it in more detail or offered some opinions about it.

I sure hope things work out. I hate to think of the time spent building a relationship can so easily be derailed by something that's fairly standard these days to overcome with special meds. I can only hope she reconsiders and puts more value in the relationship and work through the diffeculties.

Best wishes for you Chad. Our thoughts are with ya.

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2009, 07:48:09 am »
Chad, I am saddened by hearing this and a little disappointed in you too. Much like Mike and Ed said, Why didn't you clarify this with her before getting married? or at least while you were? Why I'm disappointed in you? Because you seem to think less of yourself then you are. Just agreeing to get un-married without even putting up a fight? If it was such a problem for her why didn't she come up with a non-drug solution? They must have some kind of herbs related fix as most of Asia does. I don't understand what happen? You married and you both didn't give it a chance.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2009, 08:20:47 am »
Hi mate I'm not married to my lady yet, but I have to agree with Vince, seems to me like you didn't give it a go, or want too........She would not have married you if she did not FEEL something towards you, get in touch brother.......;) I have angina so cannot lift any sort of heavy'ish weight, or do many things that are TOO hard, when I am there (November) my medication will be getting exchanged to herbal, which I know my lady will help me with....
« Last Edit: May 18, 2009, 08:24:54 am by Scottish_Rob »

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2009, 09:33:14 am »
Chad , what can I say .. that hasn't been say'd already .
Very sad day for the brotherhood . Another misunderstanding ( language Barrier ) and not given the chance to make it work .

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2009, 10:22:13 am »
Chad It sounds like this can be worked out.Get you the translater and your women together.It sounds like she didn't understand what was said or what was going on.

Give it a try

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009, 10:51:12 am »
I heard back from the transolator after she called Ying and Ying told her she would not meet with me and a transolator, the transolator said I should go home to my country and get on with my life. That was really helpful of her. I wrote Ying a letter on her email address and I sent one through chnlove as well. As soon as I proposed her profile disapeared from chnlove but the letter went through so we will see.

I hate to admit it but you guys are right I should have held my ground at least for a day or so and then discuss it more but I saw as soon as I seen her this morning something was wrong. She took her daughter home last night and was supposed to be back later that night but she never showed up or even called. She had the transolator call me this morning around 9:30 to tell me she was going to be here around 1:00 but she called me at 11:30 and said she was here. I was out walking at the time so I told her I would be a few minutes. When I got here she was taking a shower which I thought was very odd. The transolator told me later Ying had been home crying all night. So that has me confused as well.

I will see what tommorrow brings for me.

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009, 01:46:46 pm »
Chad you need to grab this bull by the horns quick before it is too late. If she didn't care she wouldn't have been shedding tears over you last night. Also, not to sound like a pig yet there are numerous ways of pleasing a woman even with your current medical issues. There are so many things to do other than intercourse than would make her achieve her precious orgasms. I have to say I am a little surprised at her attitude towards sex to be quite honest. Also, who is to say you need to divulge to her you are taking the meds in the first place. Chinese people view western medicine with scorn and consider us weak for relying on drugs that actually work as opposed to thier ineffectual snake oil herbal medicines that for the most part do not work at all. It is a cultural difference that I feel you should have never brought up because of the misinformation most Chinese have about effective drugs from the west. Chinese are stubborn and generally are very stubborn about letting go of thier old wives tales because they have been around for 5,000 years. Keep your meds under wraps so to speak and I think there is a possibilty of maybe working it out with her. Whatever happens we're all routing for you.
Good Luck Brother
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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2009, 02:08:18 pm »
Chad, what a tale. We are all 100% you here buddy.
i cant help but feel there is some kind of misunderstanding going on here with her, its definitely work fighting for or you'll be left with a bunch of "what if I's?" running though your head when you get home.
Do what you can do when you are there to at least meet up with er again and at least you can go home knowing you didnt let go without a fight and can have no regrets.
Whatever the outcome, the brotherhood has your back here.
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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2009, 08:17:06 pm »
I have to agree that there are some misunderstandings going on.  Shark is right about their feelings about western medicine.  Angel and I were talking about this very thing.  I jokingly(sort of) said i would need some Viagra on our honeymoon.  She got very serious and said that she knew what it was and it was very bad for you.  Now she is a Nurse with over 20 years experience and she believes that.  Can you imagine what a non-medical woman can think?  To her it could be like you are taking drugs, amphetamines or some such nonsense. Excuse me but I cant believe you would go there without it on your honeymoon.  It was like you were going there asking for trouble.  If you thought that your love was so "pure" that you could get along without it. You learned a valuable lesson.  I dont know your circumstances, but if I were you, I would have someone I know get it for me and send it by SR71 or the fastest way I could.   Prove to her you can function with it.  Hell man if I were you I would take it and when you are talking stand up and pull it out hard.  Convince her.  Her going home and crying all night then taking a shower in your hotel when you were supposed to be coming home "might" mean that she was wanting to be convinced you could. Now I am not talking about force here in any way shape or form.  But be firm (no pun intended) and show her what you can do.  She is probably scared.  I would not want to get into a brand new marriage with someone who could not have sex with me.  At least not someone i have just been corresponding with.  She told you that sex was important to her.  NO matter what, we will help all that we can. Write letters or whatever we can do.
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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 03:44:16 am »
All the advice you guys gave me was real good and it all even made sense. But its like a monday morning quarter back. I have tried all day texting her and calling her  and no answer. I even went as low as going to the chnlove office and asking them for help. They tried to call her as well but her phone was off. They said they would write her a letter and that was all they could do. They asked if I wanted to try another lady and I said no. So I re booked my flight and I am leaving the first thing in the morning. Thanks for all the kinds words.

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 05:54:23 am »
All I can say is WOW!  Unbelievable.  I am so so sorry to hear about this.  I really don't know what else to say, that hasn't already been said.  I am sorry Chad.

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RE: Happy beginning sad ending
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2009, 08:46:18 am »
I am sorry to hear what happened Chad. Best of Luck to you!

David