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Arnold

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2010, 09:47:26 am »
I don't know if this will help , but you can tell her that my Uncle and Aunt or married for 42 years and he is Catholic and she is
Protestant . They married in a Protestant Church and I was there also at 15 yrs. old . This is by no mean a problem ( needs so
converting of one of you ) to have a Church wedding . My friend even became a Muslem just to marry his Wife .
 Sly , you need somebody fast that speaks chinese and explain it to Liyan before it's to late .
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« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2010, 09:53:19 am »
mmm this is quite interesting. i guess the only one who can figure it out is you as you are their with her.

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2010, 09:57:39 am »
Arnold and Ted, thanks for your reply, I really thank you, once again.
on sunday, we will go to a church (protestant one) in Paris, for Liyan to meet a Father and who can also give her some more "informations" about it.
Because of yesterday, she wanted to see a protestant church and a Father in Paris, so we looked over GOOGLE to find one in Paris.
But well.. 4 days to remain... and living that situation at home even one more day is not really good :(
Why can't she believe in my words about religion and wedding between catholics and protestants?

I feel not fine to imagine again and again that Liyan can sleep on the floor when she is with me...
Too bad...
Let's hope tonight, something could change.
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« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2010, 10:09:00 am »
Why wait till Sunday to see the father? Call and make an appointment. Could be done today.

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2010, 11:05:36 am »
Sly I tried to look up an answer for you hope this might help
Is marriage allowed between a Catholic and a Presbyterian?
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A Catholic may marry another Christian e.g. a Presbyterian (a 'mixed marriage') so long as he/she promises to do his/her best to raise any children in the Catholic faith; the non-Catholic is to be aware of this promise and understand what it means. It is sufficient for the priest or deacon acting as Church witness to fill out some brief paper work. The ceremony normally takes place within the church building and it is courtesy to invite the Protestant minister to participate (no permisson is needed).

It is also possible for the ceremony to be conducted in the church of the Protestant party; this would normally be granted by the bishop, especially if the Protestant had a strong connection to his/her church e.g. a relative who was pastor. However, a Catholic priest or deacon would normally be required to be present.

A Catholic may also marry a person who is not a Christian, with the promise regarding children also being made. However, such a marriage is called a "Disparity of Cult" and permission must be obtained from the local bishop. In such cases, it is permitted for the ceremony to take place somewhere other than in a church building. See related links.

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2010, 11:15:54 am »
Sly to solve this you may need to marry her in a protestant church that what appease her religion however there are more things involved you two may want to talk about.I am sorry for this to become a problem for you two.I only hope it can be ironed out .You need to talk to a Presbyterian clergy man asap someone speaking Chinese will help as well I'm sure.These are suggestions my friend follow your heart and the best for both of you                 Ron

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2010, 03:05:09 pm »
Liyan called a Father in a protestant church (chinese one) in Paris.
He said that yes, we can marry.

But anyway, that doesn't solve the other "big problem".
I can not touch her, not hug her, not kiss her, and not have sex before we can marry.
Just because she thinks it is "very bad" (her own words) if we do like that and that God would then be bad with us.

Tomorrow, I have to call the notary to confirm the appointment...
Well...
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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2010, 05:57:15 pm »
Well if it is until you are married she is asking you to respect it?Just know that when your big day comes you can make  up for it?Maybe a small price to pay for a lifetime of dreams.I wish you the best Sly hope you can hold out.She sounds very traditional.At least you know the wedding is on.                           Ron

ttwjr32

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2010, 08:00:07 pm »
just a short time to honor her wishes before you marry

Arnold

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« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2010, 11:34:32 am »
We need a Drumroll here . Sly will soon arrive !

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2010, 06:23:42 pm »
wonder how iti is going with the two of them?? no new updates

Arnold

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« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2010, 06:46:37 pm »
wonder how iti is going with the two of them?? no new updates

Like I said , things are good and he'll be here soon .

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2010, 04:52:59 am »
Hi there :)
Sorry, a few things that need to be done before getting married in one month :)

I will give some more updates about Liyan and me.
Liyan was introduced to some of my best friends, who live close to our city (about 15 mins by car).
Everything was just fine, all of them were very happy to meet Liyan and also, were really helpful too :)

Because they know Liyan is learning french, they could talk to her in english, and 3 days ago, Liyan was in Paris with one of my friend's wife, shopping and looking things that can be useful for the wedding day (gifts and so on).
Well. Liyan could also get some advices and was also surprised, to see that it is different than in China.
One of my others friend's girlfriend is vietnamese, and she gave Liyan some other advices, about makeup. She said that she'd enjoy help Liyan about that, and Liyan and her are now good friends :) (they also watched a manga on my computer (from Miyazaki : Ponyo, a fish that wants to become a human lady and sharing love with a human children)
Yesterday, we went to the hairdresser for me, and Liyan came, to see how different it is too with China hairdressers.
Because Liyan also found on Internet with Nga (the vietname lady) a nice hairdressing, we asked to the hairdressers and we must go back there on next weekend, to give it a first try. The hairdresser said, asian women have strong hairs, so it can be a bit "longer" to make it very good, but it should be ok. Anyway, I guess that she'll do it very good.
We are looking for a good restaurant. I wanted to go to a big one, but no more free places :(
My parents also told me about some other ones and today I need to call them. The quality is very good and the price is also a bit cheaper, compared to the other one (who is anyway a 3 stars, but well... )

The father called Liyan to talk a bit with her, that she must go on learning french, because she then would like more and more France and also, the habits and so on. and that she could also take the bus or the train alone.
Before yesterday, Liyan was at home (as everyday in fact, when I am working), and a grandma knocked at the door. The old woman is "just" 97 years old, one eye blinded, and can not really hear from one ear. she lives in the same building that me, on the same floor. So, she just needed some help. Liyan tried to help and the grandma took her hand, and wanted to walk a bit outside with Liyan, even if she could not really be understood and could not also understand Liyan... ^^'
Well.
When Liyan was outside our studio, the door suddenly closed behind herself... and because she didn't have the keys on her, she could not get in until I could come back from work...
An other lady came a few mins later, and talked with Liyan. She never saw her before, and well, most of time, I don't talk with my neighbours, except "hello, good morning, good afternoon"...  Not that we are friends or not, but well, I don't often see my neighbours, whatever we live in the same building or not...
The lady could talk in english and helped Liyan, and offered her some drink, until I was back from work. Then, Liyan was very happy, because the laday said that she often goes in China (^^) and visited Beijing, Shanghai and have some friends, there. She also bought many things from there and brought it back in France.
when I was back from work, I was surprised to see Liyan waiting for me outside and talking with the lady and another woman who came to help the grandma.
Then, Liyan told me what happened and I thanked the lady, who said that it was ok.
Now I guess that we'll surely see that lady again and also offer some drinks too in my studio and talk about China ^^

About food, everything is ok now :) we buy most of time chinese and vietnamese food in Paris, in "Tang Freres", which is like a big market, where man can find many food from Asisa.
We also buy some food in a little shop close to our studio, which is french food. So, we can "vary" everyday what having to eat :)

Liyan is still learning french language and can better say some words using the letter "r" :)
She can also go to the park close to the studio but because of the weather which is a bit "cold" for her, she prefers most of time staying at home, talking on QQ with her family / friends, reading, and do some other things.

We are also talking more and more about differences between wedding in France and in China, it is very interesting in fact to know that there are such many differences in the process to marry.
Up to now, we can not marry in any church. I will go with Liyan in another church (protestant one) and asking how we can do to marry (because up to now, we still don't have news nor "agreement" from any Father.

Tonight, if everything is OK, Liyan and me will go to Rouen, north of France, for the weekend, with Nga and her boyfriend Mikael. We'll stay in her mama's house and also, will go to the sea ^^' (I promised Liyan to go there before wedding ^^) so she's very happy :)

Any some more news to give soon :)

NB : and about her wish to not have any sex before wedding, well, it is a bit "difficult"... but well... how could I be "cold" each time I can see her, whatever she is close to me or not so close.. just thinking about her.... well... (I think my papa's was maybe Viagra....:D) *kidding*

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2010, 04:56:42 am »
Sly  great to hear things are going well and proceding along

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Re: Liyan's coming in France
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2010, 05:21:53 am »
Thanks, Ted :)
I'm impressed that Liyan can also speak french better than in first time, and she's talking clearly :)
I found a "tip" to help her to say words with good accent. Just say it quick and with no "tone", so that, it is also very good and understandable ^^
I need to find a book with a method to read french language, I guess it can be really helpful too :)
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