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« on: July 02, 2010, 10:19:16 pm »
China is an odd beast that needs to be respected;. Some complex situations that you think would be an organizational disaster turn out to be great and you wonder afterward what all the fuss and worry was about. Then the simplest of tasks can turn out to be a major calamity.This is when you have what I call a "China day".These days come and go and are part of the experience of everyday life in China. A little planning and knowledge will go a long way toward making your trip a good one,remember you need to have an open mind, an open heart and open eyes to get the most out of the place.

These are in no particular order, just as I thought of them!

Health Requirements,
No vaccinations are required for travel to China but it is advisable to check with your doctor for current information. Tetanus, typhoid  and hepatitis vaccinations are recommended. Please note that there is a risk of malaria in remote areas of southern China.

Drinking Water,
The tap water in China is undrinkable. Buy bottled water it is cheap and available or boil your water first.

The Food,
The food is great and the variety is overwhelming. Most of the time it's cooked fresh so there is little chance of getting sick. That said the change of diet can cause you a few problems!  Inconveniences include little rocks in your rice, tons of tiny, tiny little bones in the fish, pieces of chopped up bone inside meat. But be adventurous anyway! You'll learn soon enough what not to eat.Your body will let you know.

Chopsticks,
Learn to use them before you get here. Don't give me any of those whiny western excuses about how difficult they are to use. PRACTICE. Knifes and forks are not available every where and as eating is such a communal affair here if you can't use them well your in trouble. Besides it's amazing the amount of compliments you get if your even half decent at using them. I think it was Arnold that use to practice moving small pieces of hard candy from one bowl to another. It pays to PRACTICE.

Toilets,
Be prepared; Carry some tissue.You may well come across squat-toilets on your travels and a lack of plumbing is not uncommon in public places.The flushing mechanism may consist of a tap and a bucket. A tap and a bucket may sound fairly primitive, but this is often the classier end of the spectrum. If you don't know how to use a squat toilet, try the following experiment at home.
While holding onto something for support with both hands, lower your body down into a low squat position, so that the cheeks of your bottom are almost touching your heels or the back of your calf. Now, let go with your hands. See if you stay in this position for at least 1 minute. If you fall backwards or you cannot get up, then a squat toilet could be a problem for you!
Be warned that public areas like bus and train stations are usually what I class as "tough toilets", however if gotta go you gotta go. Outside of the major cities, the toilet systems are old or have very narrow plumbing /pipes and get blocked easily. In these cases a small basket is usually beside the toilet, this is for your used toilet paper.
One of the best China travel toilet tips I can give you, is use hotel lobby toilets. These are everywhere and are always clean. Still they may not always have toilet paper. It depends on the class of hotel that you are using.

Tipping,
Tipping or gratuities are not common practice in most sectors of Chinese life.

Safety,
China has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. There is a strict gun control. However, in bigger cities pick-pocketing and purse snatching are quite common in crowded areas such as railway stations, shopping centers, sightseeing destinations, buses and so on. General precaution measures are:
Keep an eye on your purse or bag at all times.
Put an elastic band around your wallet. It makes it harder to slide out of your pocket. ( One of Ted's tips! )
Do not show your money in public. Try to carry small amounts each time you go out.
Leave your valuables in a safe place.
You do not need to carry your passport at all times. A copy of it works too.
If you do encounter any type of public demonstration its best to leave the area and not hang around.Taking photo's would be a bad idea!
 
Telephone,
What is worth doing is buying a Chinese Telecom SIM card, but first make sure your mobile phone is "unlocked" or it won't work!  They are about RMB100 and with this you get RMB50 in calls, the other 50 is for the price of the SIM card; this SIM card will go into all major brand phones. If all else fails buy a cheap phone here for a few hundred RMB and keep it for your next trip. They can be a life saver, if you can get the number of the agency that your lady is registered with and you need help call them.

Electricity,
The electricity supply is 220 volts, alternating current (AC), 50 cycles. Outlets come in a variety of configurations. You may have to supply your own transformers and adapters in some hotels, but better hotels now supply a range of standard adapters for electrical appliances and electronic devices. The most common sockets are the narrow round 2-pin, the slanted 2-prong, and the 3-prong type.

Currency/Foreign Exchange,       
The Chinese currency is called Renminbi. 10 fen= 1 jiao and 10 jiao= 1 yuan.
Foreign currency cannot be circulated within the People's Republic of China so you have to exchange anything you have into Renminbi. This can be done at any branch of the Bank of China. Exchange rates are issued every day and if you have any unused Chinese Renminbi when you come to leave the country you can convert it back with a "foreign exchange certificate" which is valid for six months. Exchanging money with money changes on the street is illegal but you do get better rates! As a rule the higher the denomination of note your changing the better the exchange rate.
Many hotels accept major credit cards and can convert your money into RMB as well, but at lower exchange rates than the banks. Saying that exchanging your cash at a hotel can be quicker and more convenient. It's your call. At present, the following credit cards can be used in China: Master Card, Visa Card, American Express, JCB, Diners Card .The Bank of China can also cash travelers' checks sold by international commercial banks and travelers' check companies. Cash point machines are available at most branches of the Bank of China. Depending on what card you have you may be limited to 2000/2500rmb a day,so be prepaid for this. Also it's a good idea to tell your bank that you intend to to travel to China so they don't block your card while your here..

Staring,
You will find yourself being stared at by the locals where ever you go. Get use to it. It's not aggressive in any way it's just that there curious about you.  I expect you really won't mind being stared at by the Chinese girls. Even if 10 seconds after you pass her, you turn and see she is still looking at you. Imagining  that she is exuding her "that-is-what-I-have-been-waiting-for-all-my-life "look. but unfortunately you won't be able to distinguish this from the Jeez-what-a-freak! look.

Taxi's
Most taxi drivers do not understand English,along with virtually everyone you encounter here. What this means is that until you acquire some minimal language survival skills  you won't be able to do anything that you took for granted back home, without first imposing on someone else with Chinese communication skills to accompany you. If you do have to take a taxi anywhere or are returning to your hotel you will need to carry on your person several scrapes of paper with the destinations written in Chinese and remember not all taxi drivers are literate. They are however cheap and plentiful. Taxis are an experience that can have you griping the seat and gasping for breath; however you soon get used to it, after the first few rides, you're an old hand. If the taxi does not have a meter then negotiate the fare before you set off.  Always carry a card from the hotel where your staying at all times!

China TV,
If you want to watch TV, most of the major hotels will have cable and if you are in the smaller places, the national channel, CCTV9 is in English. It has regular news programs.

Pollution,
Sometimes the pollution is pretty bad. It might even make your eyes water some days, especially if you come from some wussy place with really clean air. Environmental protection is gaining ground here,so don't worry. Soon you'll be wallowing in toxic apathy with the rest of us!

Lost Travel Documents in China,
First before you leave home make copies of all the documents you intend to take to China  This includes the Chinese visa number in your passport as well as the date and place of issue,and have some 2" passport photos taken to bring along too.
So if you lose your travel documents or get them stolen, what can you do? Well you should immediately report the loss to the local police station, who will give you a relevant lost report. Then you need to apply for a replacement passport at the embassy or consulate of your country, Bring along all necessary supporting documents such as the police loss report, copy of lost passport or other certificates that can verify your status such as your ID card, Driver License, Social Security Card, etc.
Also don't forget to bring several two inch passport photos and some cash as you will need these as well. When you get your new passport, you also need to apply for a new visa at the local Exit and Entry Bureau. Failure to obtain a replacement visa can result in a fine or at least a big hassle when you attempt to exit China.

Emergency's,
Dial 110 for the police, 119 in case of fire and 120 for an ambulance.
After being put through  to the emergency services you will firstly hear a prompt in both Chinese and English:"Hello, here is 110 alarm service", then an operator will ask you some basic questions, such as your name, location, and details about the reason for your call. Follow there instructions
Some other useful numbers
113--Operator of domestic long-distance calls
114--Inner-city telephone number inquiries
115--Operator of international long-distance calls
116--Information on domestic long-distance calls
117--Time
121--Weather forecasts

Medical Facilities in China,
Hospitals in many major Chinese cities have so-called VIP wards (gaogan bingfang). These wards feature up-to-date medical technology and physicians who are both knowledgeable and skilled. Most of these VIP wards also provide English speaking doctors and nurses.
SOS International, Ltd., operates clinics and provides medical evacuation and medical escort services in several Chinese cities. For medical emergencies anywhere in mainland China. You can call the SOS International, Ltd., 24-hour “Alarm Center” in Beijing at (86-10) 64629100 or in Shanghai at (86-21) 62950099 for advice and referrals to local facilities. They can also be contacted in Hong Kong at (852) 24289900. The Australian firm, Global Doctor, Ltd., has opened clinics staffed by English-speaking doctors within the VIP wards of government-run hospitals in Chengdu, Nanjing, Beijing, Xian and Shenzhen. Global Doctor can be reached by telephone from China at (61-8) 92263088. For less serious conditions most 4/5 star hotels have a doctor on call.

Stay calm in China, shows of anger and shouting  will get you know where, in fact they are viewed as very rude. The Chinese people as a whole are warm kind individuals and I'm sure at some point during your trip you will be overwhelmed by there generosity and welcoming nature.

Most of all ...........Have Fun!

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« Last Edit: July 02, 2010, 10:21:02 pm by Paul Todd »

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2010, 10:40:29 pm »
Regarding the Toilets section:
Most restaurants will give you a small package of napkins.  When you are done your meal, take these with you.  Keep a package of napkins, as they double as toilet paper.

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 11:12:43 pm »
Vaccinations ... You might want to add diarrhea to that... there are temporary vaccinations for this (over here, it's called dukarol...two doses of this apparently)...

De-hydration ... depending on where you are, you will quickly dehydrate.  This can be from the pollution or from the weather itself.  Best solution ... find a supermarket that carries sports drinks.  A bottle of powerade/gatorade/etc. will do wonders if you're dehydrated...water not so much.

Safety ... Register with your government... (for example: http://www.bonvoyage.gc.ca).  If there are any issues, they use these lists to identify anyone missing.

Different culture ... different ways of talking ... Remember that you are in a foreign land... how people think and act and speak are often different from what you are used to.  Before replying to something you think is offensive, take a few seconds and try to take the comment in the way it was meant.  If they do things differently, don't try to correct them

(This applies to all countries, not just China) Remember, you are a guest in their country.  Your citizenship means nothing if you break their laws...yes, you might be able to get some consular help, but if you break a law, you will suffer the consequences...
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 12:58:05 am »
Tipping - I was shocked to find out that it's common to tip the bell boy at a hotel after I was told that tipping was uncommon.  I had already neglected to tip him the first time when I was there without my girl.  All I had was 100 rmb bills the second time so she had to tip - apparently 100 rmb is too high. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 09:59:14 am »
In my wife's home town, we caught a ride on a motorcycle.  Three of us weaving in and out of traffic on a bike made for two...and me being the guy at the very back.  When he got us to our destination safely, I paid the 5 RMB, and gave an additional 5 RMB for not killing us.  My wife nearly had a heart attack, when she realized I over payed the guy.  She tried to get the money back from him, while I was trying to drag her away kicking and screaming. (not quite)

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 01:17:22 pm »
One thing I would like to add..

Don't be afraid to approach anyone if looking for something or somewhere.  Just show respect as you approach them. And ask in a polite manner.  Sometimes people will also just approach you to 'Speak English'.  This is just curiousity.

Also try and have a translation machine to translate the language.  Or have a small dictionary or some easy sentences written done and carry with you.

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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 03:25:30 pm »
After I got home from my first trip I took a bunch of business cards and wrote on the back and had My Chinese friends write the translations for me.
Things like my hotel address.  Train station, favorite restaurant, my office address etc.. Just flash it to the taxi driver.
Where is the rest room? Where is the bank? Where is the ticket counter, super market, doctor etc?
I carried them in my wallet like little flash cards.

Recently I found a software company that sells a Chinese phrase book for Smart phones and Blackberry. Its called China2Go and I bought a version for both my Samsung blackjack-ii and my blackberry. It is chocked full of common phrases in English and translates them to Chinese and will even speak them out loud.  The same company makes a English_Chinese dictionary for your smart phone. I bought both and put them on an extra backberry 8700c that I had as a spare and sent them to my lady in China. She was overwhelmed. I scored big points for that one.  you can pick up an 8700c for less than 50 bucks on eBay and pay 10 bucks to have it unlocked.  The installation is a bit complicated but now she has a cool Blackberry phone with a talking dictionary all for under $150 . if your interested the software can be found at http://www.hnhsoft.com/buy_china2go

Something else that helped me a lot. When I would need to eat I would have to go out with my Chinese friends because they could read the menu and order for me. That was OK but they also liked to stay out late and drink and play cards and go to karaoke bars. I would rather just grab a bite , watch the news and go to bed. So I hit on this idea. While you still in the states visit a few Chinese restaurants and leave with the menu! Most of our Chines restaurants menus are written in both English and Chinese. Now pick your favorite dishes and photo copy them to a separate piece of paper.  And now you have a customized point and show menu of your favorite dishes. Just show it to your waiter and they will bring you something similar to what you want.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 07:01:25 pm »
Regarding the Toilets section:
Most restaurants will give you a small package of napkins.  When you are done your meal, take these with you.  Keep a package of napkins, as they double as toilet paper.

Here in Kaiping, Guangdong, the restaurants charge you 1 RMB for those napkin pack. Most public toilets are disgustingly dirty and smelly. Even the ones at hospitals and restaurants are dirty as well. In villages, you'll be doing your No. 1 & 2's into the river/stream. My advice is to use your hotel toilet before your outings and hold till you get back.

Always haggle/bargain at markets. Street vendors will always tried to rip you off by overpricing or adding extra weight to purchase food items [ i.e. watering their vegetables to make it heavier, helping you to choose your food when they're real trying to get rid of the old stock ]. Walk away from bargaining when buying clothes/souvenirs, they'll chase after you for the business. A rule of thumb is to offer 30-40% off the asking price.

When choosing a street side food vendor / sidewalk cafe, go where most locals go. They know where the food is good and relaible.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2010, 10:34:22 pm »
I had posted this on the old facebook forum ... but think this needs to be addressed again for the new members of our forum:

Time for the squat toilet academy:

Check out these two very educating videos!

How To Use a Squat Toilet

How to do the Asian squat

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010, 12:10:19 am »
Thanks Rob. Even after watching these I am going to have nightmares about squat toilets :P

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2010, 01:27:30 am »
Great now I am going to have to invent some type of blow up plastic toilet to market to all us westerners when we go over.  My idea; patent pending. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2010, 10:02:04 pm »
the restuarants do charge 1 rmb for the paper when you sit down so if you have some just kindly give back to the person seating
you and they will remove from the ticket

i think Paul was being nice when he said public toilets are tough lol!!!! they are downright absolutely disgusting lol!!! when i am out walking around i will use the hotels as they all have bathrooms downstairs in the lobby's and are for the most part clean and the air is breathable

for the staring issue  i just smile at them and say hello to them and this produces 2 scenarios  they either look away or they say hello back
and some will stop to chat with you. when i am sitting outside at one of the many coffee shops in Guangzhou i have had many gesture to the other chair to sit and i oblige and we have a good talk together sometimes quite legible other times not but i always give them my business
card which is english one side and chinese the other side you would be surprised how many people who really want to meet you and talk with you but just dont know how to approach you. so be the one to offer first that you are interested in talking with them

chopsticks are a must to learn how to use and i found out this the hard way in the beginning but all is good now

check the seals on bottled products you buy to make sure they were not opened before  yes it seems like a mute point but it
does happen in out of the way places and never never accept a drink bottle that they attempt to open for you as a courtesy as
it may have been tampered with or as i say refilled with ordinary water




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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 12:02:53 am »
Great now I am going to have to invent some type of blow up plastic toilet to market to all us westerners when we go over.  My idea; patent pending.

Talk to Okie Rob about this...he might already have the patent on the portable toilet.  He had a picture of one on the facebook group, but I can't seem to get it here.

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2010, 01:29:20 am »
Talk to Okie Rob about this...he might already have the patent on the portable toilet.

Great there goes the millions I was planning on making.  How am I going to keep Wendy happy now?  I hope she does not have champagne tastes because I am only on beer wages... ;)
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2010, 05:25:41 am »
Talk to Okie Rob about this...he might already have the patent on the portable toilet.

Great there goes the millions I was planning on making.  How am I going to keep Wendy happy now?  I hope she does not have champagne tastes because I am only on beer wages... ;)

Seriously Jason, everything's cheap in China. Hell, even Canada is cheap compared to Australia. I don't know what's going on here but everything here's $$$$. Then again, there are a lot of hot Asians where I'm living. I think I'm in Little Shanghai right now.