Handan JuYuan Marriage Agency (HJYMA) ranked last with Chnlove.asia

[JohnnyAloha]

  Fortunately there was a good post on this agency by Brian and Zhen, unfortunately this agency rather than caring for it clients more than most actually has one of the worst satisfaction record of any agency. I did a spreadsheet on the ratings of all the Chnlove agencies (555 ratings in last 2 years) HJYMA had 5 'bad' and one 'poor' out of their 25 ratings or almost 25% being unacceptable. I also rated them 'bad' because none of my questions were getting answered and I was only getting very quick and short replies that I honestly believe were just being made up by some translator in their 2 computer, 2 person office just 4 quick $'s. Seeing the photos of their operation kind of speaks as to how 'professional' they are not.

As this was my first experience with a China dating service, it really left a bad taste in my mouth. Fortunately upon reviewing the ratings of all the other agencies, there are clearly some standouts getting 28 out of 29 'Excellent' ratings for example, another 20 of 21 "Excellent' ratings, etc.
Other large ones to stay away from based on ratings "Happy Sea' 5/14 'Poor' or 'Bad'; Beijing OUI 5/16, Changsha 11/32 making them statistically the worst for large operations, CiMengYuan International 5/22, Hand n Hand 4/21, WuHan O - mixed?

[shaun]

OK Johnny I'll bite.  Interesting information.  Who are you?   Where do you work? What is the purpose of your post?

[Willy The Londoner]

C'mon Shaun.

You know that we are not suppose to ask such questions on here. 

We must accept that he has passed the muster of the moderators and his posting is ok.

Cannot for the hell think why he wasted his time doing a spreadsheet of all the chnlove agencies!  I could have given him the answer he needed in two words..

Willy

[shaun]

I missed the most important part of that post.   Brian!!!!!   Where are you?    Haven't heard from you in a while.    Got an update?


Willy, you crack me up.

[Vince G]

Johnny, Welcome to the forum.

I hate to say you wasted your time but I think you did. Those "ratings" are manipulated by the company so I doubt there accuracy. It's easier to approach every agency with caution if you have to use them. They all suck one way or another.


On another subject, unless you are the real Johnny Aloha you shouldn't be using that name. JOHNNY ALOHA is a federal trademark name owned by Mark Jonathan Davis. It's as bad as using Johnny Paycheck.

[mustfocus]

Guys,

I don't see the point of automatically assuming someone's guilt.  A (potentially) new member who may have been hurt by an agency did some of his homework and wanted to try to share it with us.  Why the agressive attitude towards him?  Whatever happened to the "innocent until proven guilty" concept?  Lately it seems every time a new person joins and makes a post, you guys jump on them whether rightly or wrongly.  Until he proves otherwise, I say give him the benefit of the doubt.  Just like you were given when you started this...

Granted what he says should be taken with a grain of salt, but that's true of every single member here, old and new alike, trusted or not.  When we post here, that is our experience.  Your experience will be different.


I'd rather say welcome JohnnyAloha, tell us a bit about yourself.  Please forgive the rough greeting you got from some of our members.

[Martin]

I totally agree with mustfocus.  Somehow, there seems to be an attitude here, that we are an exclusive group.  We are not.  All are welcome, until we are given a reason why they should not be welcome.

[David E]

I think that Jonny has raised some interesting points here..(BTW...welcome aboard)

We all regard the CHNLove ratings system as a bit of a joke........it's like giving an alcoholic the keys to a Brewery, how can any Organisation be objective when it rates "itself"..?
 Having said this, it is no surprise to us, is it, that the worst ratings come from those Agencies who we all would immediately recognise as the leaders in the fraud stakes...I particularly refer to Nuhan and Beijing OUI.

Therefore, CHNLove may well have been very clever...or very honest...which one .

If they are very clever, then they must realise that they cannot get away with rating everybody as perfect, it would be too suspicious and nobody would believe them. So they chuck in a few "poor" ratings to put us off the scent.

If on the other hand, they have been honest and have honestly given a poor rating to those Agencies that we all know deserve a poor rating...then they have been very honest. !!!!

So guys, lets not shoot the messenger, Jonny may have given us another dimension to consider that we maybe know instinctively, but now we can look at it in a slightly different light.

Either which way, it does not alter the stance we always take, which is to only use any Agency for a minimum time and get on to real communications as soon as possible.

David

[shaun]

Sorry guys.  I was just asking a few questions.  I didn't think I would cause an uproar. 

[mustfocus]

Shaun,

It's not the asking questions issue.  It's the way those questions came across (at least when I read them).  And the fact that when someone joins and having a bunch of people jump on that person (figuratively) without giving them a chance.

Our red alert senses might go off when someone joins us, but that doesn't mean we have to jump up and down on those people within their first post.  But I've seen that happening more and more often lately.

[shaun]

I understand what you mean but I though the questions were pretty mild.  Maybe if I had said welcome before asking the questions.  I don't know.

So Johnny welcome to this site.  I hope you find it interesting, fun and informative.  If you were offended by my jumping in and asking questions right off the bat please accept my apology.  That was not my intent, to offend, that is.  My only thought was in evaluating your comment.  It help to know more about you.

Shaun

[Willy The Londoner]

I totally agree with mustfocus.  Somehow, there seems to be an attitude here, that we are an exclusive group.  We are not.  All are welcome, until we are given a reason why they should not be welcome.

Thats Ok Shaun - we are here to help each other in any way we can through the good and bad times.

But as someone brought up banning then perhaps someone can tell me the reason why Ted ( ttwjr32) was banned last week.  I have not heard or read anything about it here.

Willy

PS  I will say that the original poster's profile is very interesting by the lack of information.   Should there not be at least a minimum amount of information provided before a person can post? 

[JOHN1964]

Hi guys and girls, I met my lady, (minying) Through this agency and have not of yet had any problems or heard any bad reports until now, In appropriately four and a half weeks i will be in Handan with my "fiancée', And i am going to the agency with her so i can meet the translator who has been with us since the beginning of our, "relationship", I will see at first hand what this agency is like and i hope it is not as bad as decribed.
At least i know my lady is real as i have met her and also showed her the first four emf,s that was sent to me and she assures me that they were written by her and not manipulated by the translator. 

[lfputman3]

Hi guys, it's my second day on the forum and I've been doing some reading seeing what has been said and while this thread appears to have come to an end in November with John's comment, I have to offer support to John's comment.  I met my HongYun through this agency and through other sources I've seen a great deal of praise.  From both sides of the relationships.  The couple that runs this agency is said to run one of the most honest offices, their translators reportedly do not fluff or pad letters and the owners try to dissuade people from such things as the Love Call service and instead opt for couples to use the web cam they have at the office until the couple makes other arrangements. 

Not to insult the original poster, but whenever I've looked at the Handan JuYuan agencies ratings, they have had significantly more positive ratings and very few negative ratings by comparison, but hey, so far, I am a happy customer with agency, unlike other agencies with Chnlove where we all know there are significant problems.

[JOHN1964]

Hi Lloyd, still here and enjoying the forums??, still to this date i ,,and my beautiful wife ,,MinYing have had no trouble with this agency,,
We now still use this agency to translate our letters but also use "qq" for a big part of our letters,,,MinYing,s English is getting better but we enjoy the daily letters from chnlove to translate the better part of our letters, the translation program is not with out compromise so we will still continue to use this site to get our message across,,,regards from MinYing and John.