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Offline Proteus

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Quote from: 'maxx' pid='4176' dateline='1243568022'

Martan good point.I would also like to point out that my wife didn't know that I was paying for the letters.Untill she asked me how much the agency charged me.The translater jumped in and said it was 2.00.I told the translater is was closer to 6.00.

Guys theese answers look like regular Chnlove customer care answers.

Protus why don't you tell me something I don't already know.Like why doesn't Chnlove consolidate all of these different agencies.And make them all follow the same rules? Is there really women who the agency pays to just wirte letters to the men so that the men will waste there money?


Hi Maxx, thank you for asking.

The agency does not charge fees from the side of men, they charge from the side of women. Men pay money to chnlove, women to agency.

There are supposedly some rules all agencis should follow but in practice things are different. The deterioration of chnlove service comes from neglect of two basic rules. 1. All letters should be translated into the language of the readers. 2. All letters should be sent to the readers.

In my position, I cannot give you a direct answer as to if there are fake women on the site. But I can tell you that the agencies receive approximately HK$ 11 from chnlove by every credit they "produce". So, be sincere and be alert is my advice.

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Hi Proteus. that's all very well, but you did not answer Master Chongs post?  

To write anything in a letter, or as in many posts have shown, a letter without prior knowledge of the person 'supposedly' sending such, then my friend that is fraudulent!!!

Personally guy's 'too me' this  is just a customer care person, filling in too let us think it is someone really cares about our plight......
« Last Edit: May 29, 2009, 02:36:52 pm by Scottish_Rob »

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Proteus in Greek mythology was the son of Poseidon. According to Wiki' he was made the herdsman of Poseidon's seals. He was the great bull seal at the centre of the harem. He can fortell the future but will change shape to avoid doing so. Proteus my friend you have a sense of humour at least!:dodgy:

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Hi Chong and Rob, Thank you for your questions and honest expressions of your feelings.

Little can be said about my identity, but in that little I have already said I am a translator for one agency who works with chnlove. The relationship between chnlove and agency is cooperation. For chnlove, you are their clients and ladies are resources, for us, ladies are our clients and you resources.

If you ask me whether there are fraudulent letters on chnlove, you can expect answers similar to that from a white house spokesperson who has been asked if there are corruptions in the U.S. government. All the help I can offer is some advice to help you identify the authenticity of the letters.

1. First and foremost, ask your heart! When two people are genuinely in love, you feel something special in your heart.

2. Every two weeks, check if the lady has refreshed her profile. There is a rule that the lady can refresh her profile every 14 days.

3. If your feeling to her grows strong enough, send her a gift without telling her beforehand and wait for her response.

There are indeed some other methods that are rumoured as helpful but I do not recommend.

1. Ask the lady to write your name on a paper (or hold a bunch of flowers you send her) and take a picture of that scene. In more than 50% cases this request will be deemed as an insult.

2. Ask for phone number or email address in the beginning pairs of letters.  Such requests are appropriate to be raised after 10 pair of letters or at least 5 pairs. If she agrees to talk on phone, web cam request will often be accepted meanwhile.

There is a way that newly comes to my mind and has never been seen used before. And I suggest you to try it and see the effectiveness.

Ask chnlove to fetch from the agency translated versions of your letter and original versions of the lady's letter.

The advantage of this method is that it does not disturb the lady or let her know your doubt, so her feeling to you and your communication won't be affected.  

The logic of the method is like this. If an agency writes fakes letter, they'll never do any translation work to save time and labor. Indeed they can do the translation even if they write fake letters but the additional work will dramatically reduce the profit they make without translation hence dampen their motivation to write fake letters. So if chnlove can make it a compulsive regulation to attach the two Chinese versions of all the emf letters, the fear and worry for fake letter, I guess, will drop significantly too.

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The only problem i see with this suggestion, would be those times that the lady dictates her letter over the telephone.

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You know, I would really love to have some of my girl's letters as written by her, in her language.  If not for behind the scenes translation and comparison, mostly for keepsakes.  It would be a nice gesture but easily manufactured I suppose by bad agencies.  I think a suggestion like this would carry a lot more weight coming from a translator than from male members.  And I'm sure this has been suggested before in the forums.  

Twice I've sent gifts and received photos as proof.  The proof is nice to have and helps with doubt but I hope (and never considered) she didn't see it as just a test.  If so, she never mentioned anything other than appreciation and acceptance of the gifts.
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Twice I've sent gifts and received photos as proof.  The proof is nice to have and helps with doubt but I hope (and never considered) she didn't see it as just a test.  If so, she never mentioned anything other than appreciation and acceptance of the gifts.


Don't forget Neil , if you send a Gift and your Lady can not send you something of at least equal value , she might loose " Face " , that is why their slow and sometimes NO respond of your Gift . As you know , do not send Gift's of great value .. this will back-fire on you .
A simple Card written by you will go farther than a Laptop send by you .

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God, this "Face" concept is going to be the death of me.  I believe I need to go study more.  How would one fix something like that?  I mean, once she's lost Face, what can I do to restore it or make up for it?  I'm thinking it's not that simple.
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Proteus ... You still didn't answer my two questions ??????????

What's wrong with giving your first name ... We all are open with our names here.

If you read our current forum topics and our FaceBook threads, you're not telling us anything new that we don't already know.

You want to help us, answer our questions specifically .... don't generalize your answers.

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Hi Martin, thank you for the information you provide.  Before you pointed it out, on the side of us translators, we were not sure if you can see the 5 ways by which ladies choose to make their reply. May I ask another question here? Sometimes we see an "F" mark on the letters ladies send, what is its meaning? :blush:

Hi Vince, in general cases, a lady has a contract with agencies which give them authorization to refresh her profiles in occasions they think appropriate. Refreshing without ladies notice are possible, especially when she has no stable man writing with. But recently chnlove are making more effort to check if the requests to refresh are from ladies themselves.  

Hi Niel, Congratulations for the chatting you had with your lady. :) A good beginning is half done. You don't need to worry too much about "face". Keep sending her your LOVE. When you become the one in her heart, she will accept all that you give and return all of her. I wish you all the best in your August visit!

Hi Chong, I re-read your post and found 12 question marks :cool: So can I ask you to make sure the two questions you want answers? I'm glad to know some of you already know all that I have said here so far. Perhaps in the future there will be questions to dig out something you do not already know, if the question really carries need for help. Thank you for showing interest in my name again, I apologize for not stating clear my refusal to satisfy your curiosity. I hope to make up for my error by this post clearly and finally.

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Neil don't worry what you did was very good no face was lost.Your lady was probably very happy to recieve the gifts it means that you were thinking of her.

What Arnold is telling you it is true.But it is real easy to Avoid.Just don't make the gifts expensive or extravagant.And you should be ok.ANd if she gives you a gift no matter how bad you hate it.You must show your lady face.Tell her how much you like it.

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Hi Martin, thank you for the information you provide. Before you pointed it out, on the side of us translators, we were not sure if you can see the 5 ways by which ladies choose to make their reply. May I ask another question here? Sometimes we see an "F" mark on the letters ladies send, what is its meaning?

From what I can see, it means the letter has been forwarded to the email account.

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Hi Chong, I re-read your post and found 12 question marks :cool: So can I ask you to make sure the two questions you want answers?


Here it's again from an above two quote that you wrote yourself ...

To your quote above ... "'modify their replies for a better effect'", ... do you mean that translators write their own words on behalf of the ladies' feelings. Isn't that misleading the gentlemen ???

To your other quote ..."If the lady truly shows no interest, a short reply is more honest than a longer one, don't you think so?" .... Sorry but I disagree, I believe that a reply to end the communication is more honest, wouldn't you think so Proteus, why lead the man on if the lady TRULY shows NO interest ???
« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 01:44:53 am by Chong »

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Hi proteus,
I am intigued. about your knowledge of ancient Greek  mythology. the use of Proteus was obviously not an accident, did you study this subject at a Chinese university? I had no choice as it was part of national curriculum back when I was a lad,but in China I would have thought this was quite a specialised  subject. I too share your interest.

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Quote from: 'Proteus' pid='4338' dateline='1243692105'

Hi Niel, Congratulations for the chatting you had with your lady. :) A good beginning is half done. You don't need to worry too much about "face". Keep sending her your LOVE. When you become the one in her heart, she will accept all that you give and return all of her. I wish you all the best in your August visit!


Thank you Proteus.  Very kind and perceptive of you to mention my August visit.  I just bought my airline tickets and we are both very excited!
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