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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #135 on: September 20, 2009, 09:41:42 am »
Du bist Satt! ^_^ Free German spelling lesson, even though you need Mandarin right now, but there I'm at least as bad as you ...

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« Reply #136 on: September 21, 2009, 11:56:27 pm »
Day 2 : The Meeting with Arnold & Qing

Today was a big date for me, I finally could meet Arnold and his wife.
But the beginning was not really as I would have liked it to be.
Once again, it seems that there is always something turning around me, and I just was a bit angry.
But happy at the end, the most important point ^^

First, bad sleeped, awaken many times, and I don't really know how to explain. the bed is very cumfortable, so is the room, and I have nothing to say about it. Maybe about the window and the fact that my showing room has some "direct view" to the window, but it's another subject ^^'
So, I finally woke up at 06:45 am, one of the grooms downstair, at the hotel, told me yesterday that he has booked a taxi for me for today, at 07:30 am. I had enough time to have a shower, and had to see what to wear... well, I checked about Arnold's photographies, I said myself (jacket, t shirt?) and I finally changed 3 times... but I didn't really see the weather outside in fact...
Once I was ok, I went downstair, and the groom said me that he forgot in fact to book the taxi.... what a s....t
It was 07:30 am and I said myself that, even if Arnold was not so far away from my hotel, (less than 10 kms), I maybe would not have so long to be in taxi to go and meet him...
About 5 mins later, a taxi came, and the groom asked him to get me quickly to the Holiday Inn, where were my friend Arnold and his wife..
By the way, it was raining, and I then said to myself that a jacket would not really have been a good idea... and no umbrella at all... ^^'
But because of the traffic jam, I lost more than one hour in the taxi to go there.
I then checked about the phone number, but I did an error... while I thought I was calling Qing, I was calling Lyian in fact ^^'... but it seemed that she didn't really understand me when I was speaking to her... and as I had some doubts while I supposed I was talking to Qing, I then said I would call back 10 mins later.
I became a bit upset while I got a message "where are you going? is very early, I am working now". I suddenly realized I wasn't calling the righteous person ^^'. I then used my mobile to connect here and retrieving the correct phone number, and when I wanted to call, I just could hear "the number you dialed is incorrect..."
what a f...
No way to join Arnold and I thought he would had been going to have breakfast with his wife.
Finally, a few minutes before 09:00 am, I arrived at the Holiday Inn, a groom tried to help me to not be too much wet because of the rain, and showed me the entrance of the hotel. I thanked him and the taxi too anyway, and found a lady who was working in the hotel. I asked her if she could speak in english, and as she was replying to me, someone came next to me and told me "are you Sly?"
I then realized Arnold was here, with his beautiful wife. I was very happy and for sure, I explained about the situation and the fact that I could not join them.
It seems there's also a missing number in the phone number I got, but Arnold and Qing were waiting me, anyway, to go breakfast.
You have to know that in fact, Arnold is really someone interesting and he is the same as his photographies, a very cool and nice guy, who likes joking and who is very "careness", would I say.
I even was amazed because of Qing, because she was very good in english, and because she's a very beautiful chinese woman, too. I think Arnold can easily confirm about it :) She talked to me always in english and teached me some words in chinese, too (and in Shanghainese ^^)
So, about the breakfast :
It was very delicious ^^ (délicieux, Arnold, do you remember? ^^) and we took some photographies about us (in fact we asked someone to take some photos about us) :)
We then talked about many things, life in China, the difference between Chongqing and Shanghai. I told Arnold I was surprized because of the life which seemed expensive in Shanghai, and not in Chongqing. He just said it was right, and that life was not the same as in Chongqing (even Qing approved it), and I then became a bit upset because I didn't think it would be like that, I thought it would be the same as in Chongqing. (Just an example : from the aiport to the hotel, about one hour in taxi, costs about 234 rmb's in Shanghai. And in Chongqing, for about 30 mins in taxi, it costs about 30 rmb's only... do you feel the difference????)
So, after the breakfast, Arnold and Qing invited me quickly to their room, (no, there was no dumplings inside of it ^^) and they took an umbrella because we were then moving outside, to go "visiting" a big tower together.
But as I didn't have any umbrella, Arnold went back to his room and lend(ed?) me another one. I thanked him and a few mins later, we took a taxi which brought us to the famous tower.
Arnold was very nice because he explained me many things about the tower and the other ones which were around.
So, we entered into the tower, and the cost is 150 rmb's. In fact, it is approximatively the same price as in France when man is visiting a monument or something like that. We had some "checkup" like in airports, and I knew I would have "beeped" when passing the door. So I took all keys/usb keys, belt, and a short knife from my pocket...
When one of the men saw it, I thought I would have been in the beginning of a little war... "look! look! it's a knife!! he got a knife!!!" ..
OMG....
One other man looked at the knife and smiled a bit because it was a very small one, just as small as one of my fingers.... ^^ so, they let me in, and Arnod and Qing were surprized because of it... I then showed them the "little knife", and we could go on visiting.
I must say the Observatory tower is also 474 meters high. The tower is very "futuristical looking" inside the elevators. Most of the time, we were only the 3 of us inside each elevator. Guess what? We were VIP's people, that's all ! ^^
Once we were to the top (100th floor), we saw that for sure, it was raining and could not really saw a beautiful view on all Shanghai. Arnold was a bit "sad" because it was the second time he was there, and the first time was also a rainy day or cloudly one.
Anyway, we did some photographies, and I could see and compare the difference between that observatory and many other monuments, as ... the eiffel tower ^^
The place was also very nice and we saw at first in a "room", some futuristic monuments/buildings that should be built later. Maybe would it be real, maybe just as projects... well, let's go on ^^

So, the Observatory let us see some houses which are likely some european ones, the "style" was very different from what I've seen in Chongqing.
We saw a swimming pool downside the tower, and both Arnold & I joked about it, as I was saying "let's jump !!" We imaginated too like a sort of cable to go up to there or directly to another destination :) 'seems like Arnold really liked the tour he did on The Great Wall in Beijing when he used the cable, too ^^

After the visit of that tower (which is the highest one in all the world), we then had to take another taxi to go to a famous place, where we could eat some Dumplings
Arnold asked me if I had eaten some before, but as he told me how "specific" it was, I replied that no, not some like that, in fact.
So, a few mins later, we arrived to a place, there were lot of people queueing, and I guessed it was the famous place where the dumplings were very good.
We waited about 10-15 mins I thik before having a table.
We then shared some cup of tea together, and dumplings came to us :)
I don't want to hurt anyone, but we saved of all it ^^ (in our stomachs, for sure ^^)
Qing and Arnold showed me the way to eat it, and using chopsticks was not a problem at all :)
We then talked about many things, about my daughter, about life in China, about Lyian, about Arnold & Qing, in fact, many subjects, that, for sure, one day together would never had been enough to talk about sooo many things.
I really liked to see Arnold & Qing because they are very nice and happy together.  I wish I could have the same situation in a few days with Lyian. Who knows?
So, after the dumplings were gone (^^), we finally went out, and I saw some men asking Arnold if he wanted to buy some Rollex/Iphone/Ipod and many other things... I was a bit surprized because I didn't know if it was like some "joke" or not, but Arnold said nothing, and the man left, just to ask me.. even a "no" did nothng, the man tried anyway to sell me anything.
The place is anyway very nice and I'm sure to go there later (maybe tonight in fact ^^)

Arnold and Qing asked a taxi to take me back to my hotel, and I thanked them many times for all the morning/day we shared together. We hope to be able to meet again in Guangzhou in a few days, maybe on Saturday, in fact, we'll see how to proceed :)

Once I was back to the hotel, I then was a bit K.O but put the photographies on my laptop and resized all of them, so that it can be posted here :)
I slept a bit and went also swimming a few hours later, just before eating in the restaurant, in the hotel. But it was the last time for me to eat there (because of the price)
In fact, the swimming pool is very nice, as from the beginning, I am always alone when swimming, maybe because most of others are working or visiting, I don't really know. Anyway, I will visit more Shanghai today and in the following days, before going to Guangzhou.
About the restaurant, in fact, one of the mean who is working there is french ^^' we spoke a bit together, he said that yes, Shanghai is very expensive and that traffic jam is very "horrible" when man has to go somewhere in the morning and in the afternoon. Except some "red taxis" with a red like on the Ferrari's, the drivers seem to know very well Shanghai and the speed limits with some "flashers" if man is driving so quick... he also told me a bit more about the hotel and the chinse who were very proud about it. Even if it is a recent hotel, the quality seems to grow up, slowly, but surely.
The quality of the meals is very rich, european one and asian one, too.
I asked him about some good places to visit and he said that People's Square is very well known, just because of dumplings there ^^
I thanked him, and finished my dinner, and a few minutes later, I had to contact any other lady in Shanghai. She said she could be free on Tuesday afternoon, so we would meet at People's Square, because her house is close to it, so, we'll see what to do. by the way, her english is also good, so it's good to me, even if my chinese is a bit too poor.
I booked my flight to Guangzhou, too, so Lyian is waiting for Saturday, just like me :)  I hope we could see Arnold and Qing once again, once I'll be there.
I talked a few moment with Lyian but I became a bit tired, so she was, then we decided to go sleeping.
I had to say I woke up this morning at 08:45, so I quickly had a shower and went breakfast.
There were many people, most of them were turkish ones. My breakfast was very good, with cereals, coffee, orange juice, and some watermelon :)
Once it was over, I asked one of the persons working the hotel any services, and about some other places to visit. So, Nanjing road is very a place to visit, it seems. I will have to go there this afternoon, or maybe with Dora, the lady I should meet today.
I will phone her again if she confirms she can be free, and whatever happens, I will go and visiting Shanghai :)
Here are some pics I did from yesterday at the Observatory for most of it.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2009, 12:03:29 am by Sylvain D »
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #137 on: September 22, 2009, 04:54:09 am »
Very nice post Sly...I enjoyed reading it...hope the rest of your trip goes well:icon_biggrin:

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« Reply #138 on: September 22, 2009, 02:24:45 pm »
Ah...
'seems like my trip is totally different from Chongqing ^^'
but should I be smiling or not? That is a question and I'd like to have some advices/comments about Brothers who've been in Shanghai.
Because maybe I missed something...

Here I go to explain :
So, today, I had to see the famous Dora and to visit a bit Shanghai with her. At first, I was very suspicious to see her, I could not explain why. Maybe because it seemed via phone that I would never see her?
However, I did, after having waiting a bit than 30 mins in People's Square. She is totally different from the pictures on Chnlove... she's beautiful in fact, more than I expected...
She excused herself to be late, but it was ok, as I took some photos about the place and a bit around.
We went so to Nanjing Road and ate like some Dumplings but not the same as the famous place where I was with Arnold & Qing. Those ones were a bit bigger and like some "crispy on the top". sorry but I don't really know how to better tell it :(
But it was almost good, even if it only costs 5 rmb's for 2 of it.
We looked for a book of cooking (in english) for my exgirlfriend, as she asked me to find one book for her, with chinese food but in english :) and we finally found many, just near a Starbuck's.
Just give you a hint : never ask for some Iced brewed coffee... it's not the same as we have in France and in Europe, I think. Here, it was only cold coffee, some ice, that's all. Nothing else, no caramel, no icecream mixed, like a sort of "viennois"... but anyway, I drank it.
A few moment later, we ate in a restaurant, which was not expensive at all (65 rmbs for two dishes), one with some dumplings ^^ (for me) and another one (some dumplings in a soup') for Dora.
I didn't talk her about Liyan (maybe should I had done, in fact...) but I told her that I was leaving on Saturday.
While I was saying it to her, she laughed at me because one of my dumplings fell into my sauce and splashed a bit on my shirt. But I had to laugh at her when she had the same on her skirt ^^
By the way, I remember we saw a dog, a poodle with the 2 sides redhead colored... poor dog...
We talked about many things related to life in China and in France, and she was very happy to know some more about me. For sure, she knew about my daughter and she wanted to see some pictures. So did I, and she was very happy to know her a bit some more.
Once we had finished to eat, we went walking together and as it was raining, she offered me her umbrella. Well, I thanked her but I told her I wanted to buy one in fact, she said that it was a gift, so that I accepted it. And as I tried to protect her from the rain, she suddenly came and passed her arm under mine, looking at me and ... smiled.
'Just impressed...
I thought chinese ladies were not so "direct", because to me, it is a bit significative, when that sort of thing happens.
It is only after a few hours spent together that I realized she was really attracted by me. I could not really explain how nor why.
She told me I was awesome, that she liked me and my eyes, and each time she was looking at me, I was a bit like "troubled"... some sort of "shy" attitude I never could hide. :(
She talked about her parents, her work which is quite interesting, too, as we were walking down the streets, just to go anywhere but together.
I have to admit that she was very nice and we talked several hours in fact together. So many times that I didn't realize how late it was...
Once we checked the hour on my mobile, it was .... 00:30, and we were together since 05:45 pm.
Just try to guess that it is very "special" when man doesn't see time fly away like that...
So, we looked for any taxi (for her first because we don't leave close one to each other).
She then hugged me and kissed me in the neck before going to ...
... a frontal one...
I must say I did not what to say..
In fact, I still don't know, right now...

But I must admit that a chinese kiss is very nice, even if it's not really like some french kiss.
Well... I better go sleeping and tomorrow's another day, but whatever happens, I have to make things clear quickly... or better should I say... ASAP.

And once I finally was back to the hotel, a voice message was waiting for me :
"please call me back. Kiss. Cecilia".
One of the other ladies I was in contact in Shanghai....

OMG would I say....
well... many more news tomorrow with some pics.
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« Reply #139 on: September 22, 2009, 04:29:37 pm »
Hahaha Oh Sly....So much different than your firt trip....well done mate...:icon_biggrin:

Maybe Dora is the ONE, without you knowing this???

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« Reply #140 on: September 22, 2009, 11:15:04 pm »
I can only repeat what Scottish Rob said. It's a very different trip this time. Much better right?

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« Reply #141 on: September 22, 2009, 11:36:50 pm »
Sly, sounds like after the first trip, was famine, this trip is turning into a feast, good luck with all the lovely ladies, and hope you find your Mrs. Right this time
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« Reply #142 on: September 23, 2009, 02:42:56 am »
Hey ... Sly , you did not tell us about all those Lady's .. you were going to see????
You really are Sly . Hahahaha

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« Reply #143 on: September 23, 2009, 02:59:18 am »
Happy days my friend, now you will have the problem of which one to choose, hehe hehe

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« Reply #144 on: September 23, 2009, 03:30:41 am »
Nice to hear things are going well for you Sylvain , but there is still the problem of the other 10,000 young ladies waiting for your ChongQing return , hehe , regards Robert .:icon_cheesygrin:
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« Reply #145 on: September 23, 2009, 05:13:34 am »
Sly,

Do you want to switch places with me for a few days?  :icon_confused::P

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« Reply #146 on: September 23, 2009, 06:42:47 am »
He.
Arnold, in fact, I've talked about some of those ladies, I do remember of one comment from Vince related to Dora (is she working? :D) and that was "funny" to know he thought the same way as me about one of the pictures.
By the way, so, I've met again Dora this morning... but for any reason, no chinese kiss, just simple ones but with hand to hand... 'seems like something may be has changed... Or maybe not but it doesn't really matter.
However, she is a bit "special". She told me via sms that she had a "free day", that her boss was ok. But when I met her, she said me that in fact, she said her boss she had to go to the hospital to see someone? and so that her boss let her having that day free.
So, we were to Yuyuan Garden, in fact we met there. The taxi driver let me at the entrance of the road, so I had to find the way to go and see Dora by myself. It was a bit "easy" because I remembered some buildings (thanks to the many designers ^^) and a few minutes later, I was again with Dora.
She was happy to see me and we went to many shops together, just having a look and visiting some temples, too.
By the way, Arnold, Dora knows about the famous dumplings and she told me that she often went there to eat. So we ate some dumplings, with some tea, and we talked about the shanghainese langage :) she learnt me a few words but it seems that it is more easy to learn that language, compared to the cantonese.
We talked about love, about babies, she told me that she never thought about babies as she was alone, and as I told her "but when you are with someone, you don't think about a baby?" and she said "yes, yes", but it seems it's not really something important for her (in fact, for now, maybe, but maybe later will she change her mind about it). She told me that she liked to make up and to take care about herself, and that she had a cat that liked to "play" with her legs, as it was just to "scratch" it :) (but for sure, she doesn't like it). She told me about her parents, saying that they were open minded, and that whatever she would be with a chinese man or not, they don't say anything to Dora about it. Her mother seems to like watching the anime with a pig in it, I don't remember the name but it's famous in China since a few months. I found that funny that her mother could watch it but why not, after all ^^'
I also forgot to mention that many sellers wanted to sell some bags/watches/ and many other things. One of them talked to me in english and I replied "wo bu jiang zhong wen", and he then told me "nin bu jiang zhong wen, but you understand english". I then looked at him "wo bu dong, wo bu dong"... and for sure, Dora laughed because of the situation.
A bit later, beginning of the afternoon, we went on, walking down the streets of Yuyuan Garden. It was very interesting because Dora told me about some habits she has, sometimes, she goes into that quarter and does some shopping. She also told me about "fake" shoes, like some Nike, almost 55 rmb's, I said that was the price for just one big Mac in France. I then said : I don't what to choose, a big mac or a big shoes... she looked at me, smiled again, but said "it's fake ones". Anyway, I asked to try, gave my feet's size, but it seemed the size was not good, and I got the bigger size, they had nothing better in stock... Too bad, even if it was false shoes, it is also some shoes, and at 5 € it is very cheap ^^'
We then left the shop and Dora told me we could take a ship (not a sheep ^^) to go through the river, to go to the other side (where the Observatory Tower is). When we arrived to pay the pass, I thought it was a joke : only 1/2 rmb to use the ship. But it wasn't. I said Dora that in France, the price would be hundred times that price, she seemed to be surprized. What was in fact surprizing me was that there were some motorbikes, bicycles with us. We went up to the front of the ship, and I took some photos about Shanghai, once again, and some of its buildings.
Once arrived to the other side, we walked again a few minutes together, and we were both ok that we would have to go home (I needed to change some money because I had just enough to pay the taxi back to my hotel) and Dora wanted to go and so some shopping for her at the supermarket.
Well, my feets were a bit "k.o" because we walked many hours together, and knowing that I paid anything when I was with her, and that she told me that she was going to do some shoppings, I didn't ask if I could come... or maybe should I had to do it, and showing her some clothes that she would have bought for me ^^
So, we left each other, small kiss on each side of the face (as this morning), a smile and that's all.

I then checked a taxi, and finally went back to the hotel. Once there, I knew the other lady tried to contact me, I called her back, now, she wanted me to go her company but she didn't give me the adress, so I asked her to come and that I would pay the taxi, she didn't mind, so, maybe will she come, ... I'll see.

About the pictures, I will upload it, sorry. I have to upload it on my computer too :)
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« Reply #147 on: September 23, 2009, 07:22:23 am »
Wow good story, I can't wait for photos. I still find the language mysterious at times. This morning I told my lady I was a car, so I suppose it's reasonable to expect to be able to cross a river on a sheep :icon_cheesygrin:.

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« Reply #148 on: September 23, 2009, 08:20:17 am »
Sly,
Great story, hope all goes well for you.
Good luck bro.
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« Reply #149 on: September 23, 2009, 09:05:48 pm »
I'm glad you are having a good time Sly . I know this Trip will have a much better outcome for you , and may you make the right choice with the right Lady this time . Good Luck .. but it looks like you don't need it . :icon_cheesygrin: