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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2009, 05:28:36 pm »
Mike your so right its called going with the flow geez sly give her a chance i mean how long has it been since you started talking to her a few weeks,talking about feelings and love im sorry how can you have such feelings all ready,ok say you to got on like a house on fire you still would not know if both of you really loved each other untill you met slow down sly whats the hurry ?.
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #91 on: August 06, 2009, 05:49:18 pm »
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Mike your so right its called going with the flow geez sly give her a chance i mean how long has it been since you started talking to her a few weeks,talking about feelings and love im sorry how can you have such feelings all ready,ok say you to got on like a house on fire you still would not know if both of you really loved each other untill you met slow down sly whats the hurry ?.


Just wait. I never told her I loved her, and I will certainly not tell her anything like that without being sure enough...
For sure, we talked about feelings and man can easily understand that there are feelings to be "shared", but to me, and I do really think it, this is more like a simple discussion, everyday, that I have with Liyan. There are strong feelings, even if we talk together less than 1 month. Ok it's really quick... eh... I didn't mean to take any Concorde concerning our feelings... meaning that I didn't ask for it to be like it is actually...
Now, I will just wait for her to be sure about her feelings; she also told me she had warm feelings for me and that she wanted September to come quickly; just guess too that I never forced her to tell me her feelings and so on. I just asked a question about her parents if there would be something to happen... there is an "if", not a "there will be"...
I think I'm not to blame about that, nor that she has to be, too.
I just asked too about her picture, if I could put it in here... meaning for sure, I would believe in any relationship with her...
Well, what do you want me to say more? I just don't know what to say else...
I just gonna think I did something wrong and that I'm being blamed about something I don't understand where and how I could have "done" it...
Well...
« Last Edit: August 06, 2009, 05:52:24 pm by Sylvain D »
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #92 on: August 06, 2009, 09:22:40 pm »
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Skip, you may will better understand now why I will keep the other hotel in Shanghai and why I would also see the other ladies ? Because I don't know what could happen at any moment, and then, I also can a Plan B.
I would also "give up" about that relation because I don't really understand her way to be... (yesterday she talked she was going to book the hotel, today she didn't and tonight, she was still thinking about it) Maybe is it related to the fact she couldn't book from her working computer... (just go over there and try to guess if that's the truth)...


Sly,

I am older than you—significantly.  I am probably not as courageous or as up front.  Those are qualities that I respect in you.  I have a maxim about women (and my son’s mother is French—we were married for six years).  So, I am an intercontinental loser.:icon_cheesygrin:  The maxim is, “A gentleman only goes where he is invited”.  

You have just proposed that the lady from GZ be in love with you and that she be prepared to sleep with you.  That’s a hand full, no pun intended. :fi_lone_ranger:  My observation and it is only mine: SHE IS DEALING TOTALLY HONORABLY WITH YOU.  Behavior you never got from T.  Sure, she is restrained.  You have spent no face to face time with her.  You could be a famous French serial killer as far as she knows.  Asking for some time is respectful of you.  She likely doesn’t want to risk hurting your feelings—or hers.  To me, that means she cares for your feelings.  That, I believe is healthy.  Sure she may have been self absorbed because of her computer.  But that seemed to quickly wane when she sensed your response.  

My earlier point is (was) you are far enough down the path with her to risk attending to her and only her.  She is actually doing you a favor by exercising some self control.  My encouragement:  be patient—something I struggle with.  You are a risk taker.  She is only slightly less of one.

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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #93 on: August 07, 2009, 01:13:55 am »
Skip, in fact, I quite understand what you're saying to me, sorry if I may "reply" promptly and in any way that might not be "really good". Or yes, but I think all's ok :)
by the way, I like the maxim you told and I really approve it.

About Liyan, in fact, she was first to talk about hotel but she talked about 2 rooms. I said that it might be expensive, (she also first chosed Holiday Inn and just for one room it was more than 280$ one week, so I thought that maybe one room would be better, with 2 beds.
By reading your reply, I forgot to think about the fact that, for sure, she doesn't know about me since many months and so on, and that she also doesn't know how I can be in real.
(what a luck I'm not a serial Killer, just a cereals' one... :D)
I understand too that she can care for me (as she said "I could careless say "I love you"), but showed many times how happy she was to know me.
I do then say myself that there is no reason that in real, it would not go on that way. I am what I am, if I could make her laugh at loud via QQ, I will also do the same in face to face.

For sure, she asked me some times about feelings and I totally agree with it. I think I maybe was "too fast in any suggestion about her and me", even if I already know that she really likes me.
Today, this morning in fact, she also sent me some more pictures about her city and one picture with some friends and her on it, with a little word to accompany :) it is also really nice from her :)

I just think again that there is nothing to compare about Ting.. too much different, and maybe, like an "opposite way", but I also really like how Liyan is and understand she can be cautious.

So, I will wait.
Many thanks about your reply again, Skip ;)
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« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2009, 08:45:05 am »
I think she is being honest and truthful with you. This is good. It was months before my lady and I felt we were to be together. With all that had been said and felt almost a year later we still are waiting to meet before we know for sure. So your lady telling you she needs time is a good thing because she is not leading you to think she is when she is not.
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2009, 09:30:08 am »
Thanks about your comment, Vince :) I do agree on that way, too, she really seems to be honest, so it is a very good thing.
Well, in a few moments, she should be on QQ and we then will talk a while.
Let's see how it will be:)
I wish you and your lady that all'd be as it is via QQ when you'll meet each other :)
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« Reply #96 on: August 09, 2009, 02:23:28 pm »
Any more news about the situation with Liyan.
Well.. I would say there is like a habit, every night, for 1h30 - 2 hours, we are on QQ. As her stereo jack is out of order, she can't hear me on the microphone, but it's also a good thing (no need to sing :D)
She's making real efforts to speak with me in english... but when I do her some "compliments" about that and anything else, she just smiles, nothing else... even a "xiexie"... but it doesn't matter.
I try to write her in chinese but it's really difficult... not really difficult because I can use google translator or any other website... but because I can not remember the ideograms and write it without translating english to chinese.
We've been talking about her parents. traditional ones...
I just quickly was :-/ and Liyan told me that they were not really old traditional ones. I was a bit sceptik about that, but why not?
She said that if her parents could see she was happy with me, they would like me... (it just sounds "normal"...) but it also sounds like some déjà vu...
Well, I then told her that I could wait any longer about her feelings. At first, she didn't really understand, and then, I replied, meaning that I could wait even 10 more days, or more, or less, there was no problem. She then thanked me, saying that she really wanted the "face to face" because it is really that which will say if there would any yes or any no...
For sure, I really agree with her and like that way to be.
She also told me she has her sister at home for the weekend, and so that she spoke to her sister about me. I also saw her sister quickly on QQ (but she was shy, so she left 2 secs after having said a little "hello" to the cam)...it was nice of her to say me hello, anyway.
She sent me any more pictures and I also sent her some...
Today, it seemed a bit "strange"... I don't really know how to explain. But I'll try.
Everyday she is nice, she is happy and so on, today she just was like "tired", and not really fine.
First question that I asked her was "ni hao ma?", and the reply was a "yes"...
Well, she never replied like that, so I just doubt for a few seconds she had her QQ number hacked...
no any other reply from her, just a smile and that's all.
But after 2 mins, she faced the cam, so it was sure that it was her...
We talked about September... there was like some misunderstandings, because she asked if I always was going to Shanghai or not, and I replied that yes, but that I could go to Guangzhou later. It seemed she replied something like "don't worry, don't come, I maybe will just have a few days in Guangzhou..."
Well, because of it, I translated and I didn't really understand.. I then become "sad/angry" but no way to hide it... I then asked her if she did not want to see me, she then said "no no, I will handle"...
She also told me that she has asked her company if she could have some days in September to see me, and she said that she would get the reply on .... Tuesday...
The famous tuesday.
Because she also will know if she can have some free days to be with me in Guangzhou and maybe would she tell me anything else... but as I told her, she doesn't need to hurry about that.
She also talked about hotels in Guangzhou, she'd like to be in the city and the ones she sees are like som Holiday Inn 4* and she says it is too expensive.
I then tried to look for cheaper ones, I then found some but as I told her, first, waiting for the reply of the company, then, booking the hotel.
She told me too that she would like to go away of the agency but she has a contract, she paid 3000 rmbs and doesn't know what will happen if she choses to delete all her data on her profile on Chnlove...  She also doesn't know what will happen to the 3000 rmb's.
I sent her some "important pics" about me and my childhood, writting that she was the only one to see some of it... Well...
It was as she might has been as cold as ice.. Not even a smile, not even a thanks...
I also sent her a picture about my daughter, and then, she smiled... wtf :huh:
Sometimes, I do say myself that it is really difficult to understand that way to be.. But I go on with it, anyway.
One thing I have noticed is that she is jealous. I told her about an admirer (I never readed her letter) who lives in the same city as her, and who had the same clothes (referring to another topic here, in fact) : Clothes
and she said that I had any admirer, it was nice... I had to tell her 2 times I never wrote to that lady before and that I would never do... well.. she then said she trusted me but I'm not really convinced for now about that.

However, I still like having some QQ sessions with her at night, even if I sometimes would be in China.

Maybe any other news on Tuesday
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #97 on: September 07, 2009, 09:50:00 am »
Hi there, Brothers.
First, sorry to not have been over here those last times, but as I was on holidays with my daughter and with my family, I was "busy" most of time.
Since I've been back to work, lot of work has come, too, and it became a bit difficult to connect.
But anyway, I'm still alive and still ready to go in China in less than 2 weeks :)

All should be ok before Friday, because tonight I will go and do my visa to go there. (less than 3 days to do it via an agency)
I still will go in Shanghai and in Guangzhou. Nothing has changed :)
I will read more about all things that have been posted here, tonight. I'm still at work actually ;)
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #98 on: September 07, 2009, 10:01:49 am »
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Hi there, Brothers.
First, sorry to not have been over here those last times, but as I was on holidays with my daughter and with my family, I was "busy" most of time.
Since I've been back to work, lot of work has come, too, and it became a bit difficult to connect.
But anyway, I'm still alive and still ready to go in China in less than 2 weeks :)

All should be ok before Friday, because tonight I will go and do my visa to go there. (less than 3 days to do it via an agency)
I still will go in Shanghai and in Guangzhou. Nothing has changed :)
I will read more about all things that have been posted here, tonight. I'm still at work actually ;)


Have fun on your trip bro! Maybe, this time...you will have those desired effects!:icon_cheesygrin:

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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #99 on: September 07, 2009, 10:50:51 am »
Guy's , I will be in Shanghai and GuangZhou at the same time as Sly . So , I will make sure the last trip will not be repeated . :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:

Just kidding Sly , I really hope we have a chance to meet up in either of those two Cities . If not , have a great Trip and let this be the one you'll find your Girl .

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« Reply #100 on: September 07, 2009, 12:20:32 pm »
Sly welcome back my friend..

Hope you really enjoy your trip, make sur that 'arnold' buys you a drink mate...A nice bottle of Brandy....lol

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« Reply #101 on: September 07, 2009, 01:23:45 pm »
Heck , if he finally finds Miss Right , I'll pop a Cork of some French Champagne with him . Remember I also have a reason to celebrate on this Trip .

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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #102 on: September 07, 2009, 06:19:41 pm »
Good to see you back Sy.

Hope the holiday was great and good luck on the second holiday :)
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #103 on: September 07, 2009, 06:48:33 pm »
Best of luck in GZ Sylvain, try to do the Pearl river cruise one night with your lady..if there's one thing worth doing in GZ that really romantic thats it imho.
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RE: China again, September - October
« Reply #104 on: September 07, 2009, 07:08:57 pm »
Best of Luck to you Sly, and I do believe that just in case of anything your unprepared for it would be a good idea to have Gov Arnold handy for quick assistance, but really hope you have a wonderful time and that this time you do find your lady love for real
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