Author Topic: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?  (Read 9710 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ssetho

  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 23
  • Reputation: 0
Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« on: July 09, 2009, 10:53:19 pm »
I am from London and I will be marrying my girlfriend in China in a couple of months time. Can anyone please let me know whether I will need to get the Certificate of No Impediment from the local registrar (which will take 30 days to get) or I just need the Self Declaration letter  notarised by a Notary Public? I have asked the China Embassy and they suggested that I check with the local marriage registrar in China. Any help will be greatly appeciated.

Offline Hajo

  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 280
  • Reputation: 6
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2009, 11:56:03 pm »
I have read the homepages of the Chinese Embassy in Denmark and of the Danish Embassy in Beijing. It said to bring Certificate of no Impediment. It has to be legalized, in my case by Ministry of Foreign Affairs, then it needs to be stamped by the Chinese Embassy. It has to be translated into Chinese too. But I will have to do that in China, as I am not able to get it translated here before I have to send the visa application. I would not go without it. But try to see if the UK Embassy in China has stated anything about marriage in China on there homepage.

Congrats on the engagment!
爱你的人如果没有按你所希望的方式来爱你,那并不代表他们没有全心全意地爱你。
Just because someone doesn't love you the way you want them to, doesn't mean they don't love you with all they have.

Offline ssetho

  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 23
  • Reputation: 0
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 02:17:46 am »
Thanks a lot Hajo for the info. I will check out the UK Embassy's website in China.

Quote from: 'Hajo' pid='7866' dateline='1247198163'

I have read the homepages of the Chinese Embassy in Denmark and of the Danish Embassy in Beijing. It said to bring Certificate of no Impediment. It has to be legalized, in my case by Ministry of Foreign Affairs, then it needs to be stamped by the Chinese Embassy. It has to be translated into Chinese too. But I will have to do that in China, as I am not able to get it translated here before I have to send the visa application. I would not go without it. But try to see if the UK Embassy in China has stated anything about marriage in China on there homepage.

Congrats on the engagment!

Offline Willy The Londoner

  • Beyond The Dream in China
  • Board Moderator
  • Registered User
  • ****
  • Posts: 4,004
  • Reputation: 36
  • Hair today - gone tomorrow!!
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 12:20:32 pm »
Quote from: 'ssetho' pid='7863' dateline='1247194399'

I am from London and I will be marrying my girlfriend in China in a couple of months time. Can anyone please let me know whether I will need to get the Certificate of No Impediment from the local registrar (which will take 30 days to get) or I just need the Self Declaration letter  notarised by a Notary Public? I have asked the China Embassy and they suggested that I check with the local marriage registrar in China. Any help will be greatly appeciated.


You willneed to get both of these. The one from your local registrars office takes 21 days and costs £30 and on day 22 you can collect it.  In the meantime take your statutory declaration of no impediment to marraige to a Notary - noty a commissioner of Oaths but a notary whop will charge you abot £50 for the pleasure.  Then talke them to the Forign Office at Milton Keynes for legalisation which will be done while you waith then go to the Chinese embassy with the documents  for their stamps - will cost a coupleof hundred quid in the end.
Willy
Willy The Lpndoner

Now in my 12th year living here,

Offline Irishman

  • Muireadach and Sunny
  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,806
  • Reputation: 15
    • http://www.chinaromance.net
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 07:41:41 pm »
Does it have to be translated to Chinese first?, i imagine a registry office in China doesn't accept English documents notarised or not?
Become the change you want today, or all your tomorrows will be like yesterday.

Offline Rhonald

  • Ziyan Zhou (Yan)
  • Registered User
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,550
  • Reputation: 11
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2009, 08:50:34 pm »
Quote from: 'Irishman' pid='8304' dateline='1247442101'

Does it have to be translated to Chinese first?, i imagine a registry office in China doesn't accept English documents notarised or not?


I had mine notarised and also an offical seal put on by the Chinese consulate in Calgary. But when I went to Meizhou to register our marriage, they needed an offical notarised translation of the single status/notice of no impediment document. I made sure and asked the person at the consulate in Calgary if I needed the document translated into Chinese. He said 'No' and that I was good to go, but once in China, arguing with the governemt offical didn't help. Once they have their mind made - they are not going to change. My advice - get the translation before you go and save the hassle.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2009, 08:51:45 pm by Rhonald »
Life....It's all about finding the Chicks and Balances

Scottish_Rob

  • Guest
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 04:05:26 am »
Sorry guy's I think I'm getting confused here...
Is the single certificate...(the one that say's your divorced) to be noterised by a lawyer?... YES
And then translated into Mandarin?

Are these 2 documents:
Notice of no impediment' document
Single certificate

If so, does both have to be noterised and translated? :huh::blush:

Offline Rhonald

  • Ziyan Zhou (Yan)
  • Registered User
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,550
  • Reputation: 11
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2009, 11:48:33 am »
Quote from: 'Scottish_Rob' pid='8354' dateline='1247472326'

Sorry guy's I think I'm getting confused here...
Is the single certificate...(the one that say's your divorced) to be noterised by a lawyer?... YES
And then translated into Mandarin?

Are these 2 documents:
Notice of no impediment' document
Single certificate

If so, does both have to be noterised and translated? :huh::blush:


Sorry Rob for the confusion. I brought both documents - the notarized affidavit of single status and my authenticated/notarized divorce certificate. Both of these in turn, in China, needed to be translated into Chinese and the translation needed to be notarized. We had a lawyer that did both for us in Meizhou and she charged us I believe 1550 RMB. I hope this helps.
Life....It's all about finding the Chicks and Balances

Offline ssetho

  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 23
  • Reputation: 0
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2009, 02:11:24 pm »
Thanks for all the help guys, really appreciated. I noticed people are getting confused with these 2 documents.
1. Self Declaration letter notarised by a Notary Public.
2. Certificate of No Impediment from the local registrar which takes 22 days to get in the UK / Known as Single Status Certificate in China

Both the above documents are different. According to Willy, I will need to get both documents legalised by the Foriegn Office at Milton Keynes and then to the Chinese embassy with the documents for their stamps. Like Willy said, it is going to cost me around £200 for the whole process. I believed I will need to get both documents translated into Chinese. I will follow Ronald's advice and get them done in  China. Hope this help.

Offline Rhonald

  • Ziyan Zhou (Yan)
  • Registered User
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,550
  • Reputation: 11
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2009, 02:58:38 pm »
Quote from: 'ssetho' pid='8420' dateline='1247508684'

 I will follow Ronald's advice and get them done in  China. Hope this help.


Martin took Chong's advice and found a person in Canada that did the translation and notarizing for him before he left on his trip. I believe that its best to be prepared before leaving on your trip - just like a good boy scout.
Life....It's all about finding the Chicks and Balances

Offline ssetho

  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 23
  • Reputation: 0
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2009, 06:54:52 pm »
Thanks Rhonald.

Quote from: 'Rhonald' pid='8421' dateline='1247511518'

Quote from: 'ssetho' pid='8420' dateline='1247508684'

 I will follow Ronald's advice and get them done in  China. Hope this help.


Martin took Chong's advice and found a person in Canada that did the translation and notarizing for him before he left on his trip. I believe that its best to be prepared before leaving on your trip - just like a good boy scout.

Offline Irishman

  • Muireadach and Sunny
  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,806
  • Reputation: 15
    • http://www.chinaromance.net
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 08:10:05 pm »
Are there two official forms that are needed or just one?
Damn, i'm a bit confused here too!
The Irish government wont recognise the marriage until i get a form of there's filled in and they will give me a Certificats de Coutume
But i 'm wondering to i also need to get some other forms filed in for the Chinese government too ?
« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 08:13:47 pm by Irishman »
Become the change you want today, or all your tomorrows will be like yesterday.

Offline ssetho

  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 23
  • Reputation: 0
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 11:01:46 pm »
You will need both, the Self Declaration Letter notarised by a notary public and the Certifcate of No Impediment from your local registrar. I think besides the Divorce Absolute if you have one, that is it.


Quote from: 'Irishman' pid='8525' dateline='1247616605'

Are there two official forms that are needed or just one?
Damn, i'm a bit confused here too!
The Irish government wont recognise the marriage until i get a form of there's filled in and they will give me a Certificats de Coutume
But i 'm wondering to i also need to get some other forms filed in for the Chinese government too ?

Offline Neil

  • happily married, working on immigration
  • Registered User
  • ***
  • Posts: 1,000
  • Reputation: 5
  • Zhangping, Fujian bound.
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2009, 11:12:16 pm »
Quote from: 'Rhonald' pid='8417' dateline='1247500113'


Sorry Rob for the confusion. I brought both documents - the notarized affidavit of single status and my authenticated/notarized divorce certificate. Both of these in turn, in China, needed to be translated into Chinese and the translation needed to be notarized. We had a lawyer that did both for us in Meizhou and she charged us I believe 1550 RMB. I hope this helps.


Rhonald, since you're Canadian you're the guy for me to ask, did either of these documents take long to get?  My divorce is just being finalized now.
...as irresistible as chocolate

Offline Rhonald

  • Ziyan Zhou (Yan)
  • Registered User
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,550
  • Reputation: 11
RE: Is Certificate of No Impediment Required?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 11:09:09 am »
Quote from: 'Neil' pid='8541' dateline='1247627536'

Rhonald, since you're Canadian you're the guy for me to ask, did either of these documents take long to get?  My divorce is just being finalized now.


http://calgary.china-consulate.org/eng/lsfw/gzrz/t225620.htm
http://calgary.china-consulate.org/eng/lsfw/gzrz/t225619.htm

Neil, once I recieved my divorce certificate, I took this with a filled out Affidavit of Single Stauts to a lawyer. I signed the Single Status document in front of him and he notarized it. (oh make sure your divorce certificate can be used for international purposes). I then sent the Affidavit and my divorce certificate to Edmonton for certification. The lawyer explained to me that Canada did not sign an international agreement about notarization. So any document notarized by a Canadian lawyer for international purposes, needs to be certified by the proper goverment authority.

What really happens is that the provincial authority compares the lawyers signature and seal used in the notarization with their copy on file. If it matches, then they certify the document. The certification is a fancy legal size paper that covers the original document. They have a candle wax seal (just like days of old) with a ribbon that ties the two papers together. The certification just states that the lawyer is registered with the Government and the signature matches.

For the Chinese consulate I filled out the requested form and submited a photocopy of my passport with the original and photocopy of the certified Affidavit of Single Status. Payed the fee, waited 4 days and picked up the documents. The consulate placed an embossed holographic seal on the back of the Single status document.

All told, it took about 10 days to meet the lawyer, send the documents rush to Edmonton, and submit the documents to the chinesse consulate. I will look for my documents and scan them and upload a picture here for you.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2009, 11:10:06 am by Rhonald »
Life....It's all about finding the Chicks and Balances