A few months ago I contacted a Doctor again from a couple years back who is still on the ChnLove Website asked in my EMF to her if her contract is finished and in my roundabout way written conversation plugged in my e-mail. Received a few paragraph EMF from her, nothing about the contract, as for the e-mail she said, “My English is still not good enough for email”, which is after listing LEARNING: English since 2006. I was given 2-Semesters to get up to speed to attend regular college courses as a student from Holland in New Zealand. She is a Doctor and 3-year later she still is not up to speed for simple e-mail contact? Set me to wonder as a Doctor how she keeps up with medical practices advances if she can’t even grasp enough English in 3-year for simple E-mail correspondence. It would not surprise me if the reply EMF was from the agency and the Doctor never was given my EMF. Why should the agency care they got $10.00 coming and going.
Frans, this doctor you wrote to sounds just like the doctor I am writing to. Was she from Zhuhai? She has been on the books since 2006 and like the lady you were writing to she was supposedly learning English since 2006.
I am not sure that is an issue or not. There is no category of "No English and no plans to learn it". The lowest level is "learning".
I can imagine just giving this game away and not having any interest in having anything to do with Chinese women anymore. It's the same way for women there, you leave your profile up and don't pay much attention to it anymore. What's wrong with that?
I don't think it's necessary for doctors to speak English to keep up with medical practices. If there is a good system for monitoring international journals and translating them, then I am not sure that this is a problem.
Hi Danny,
The Doctor I referred to is from the land of the Panda, Sichuan, Chengdu city.
As for English comprehension it all depends how you look at it. I see foreign men here in Thailand who do not speak Thai and the woman they live (“married’) with do not speak his language, so they just go around like animals in the Jungle making grunting noises and nodding or shaking as the case requires their heads. Of course the foreign man and the Tai woman are both from the low end of the working class and I can understand the situation.
As for the Doctor, I place her at the upper end of the Middle Class and have higher expectations of her based on past experience with trainees in foreign countries in learning to fly commercial airplanes and also maintenance engineering, after two years learning English they were fully proficient in English to immerge themselves in the subjects I instructed. Do not overlook the fact that we are dealing with Chinese which is a highly intelligent race who can accomplish anything they set their mind to. Go to Beijing and look at the aw-inspiring things they accomplished for the 2008 Olympics. Take a look at the 3-Gorges Dam; world top Dam design engineers said it could not be done and would not submit bids on the project. Look at the Highest Railroad in the world, the one to Tibet, engineers who run the Alaska Railroad said the project was impossible. And there is getting more every day.
The lady (in this case a Doctor) has put her Profile on the Internet to lasso a foreign man and undertook as the Profile shows, English: LEARNING it is reasonable to expect so she can converse with the foreign man she lassoed. How serious is she in her pursuit? If she has no intention to learn English then she should have her Profile state ENGLIS: No intentions learn. Three year later she still admits herself she cannot do any thing in English on the computer, and she has a computer.
In connection with my working and living all over the world I never married resulting in being an independent person capable doing his own housekeeping and my attitude, if I meet some lady that meets me halfway fine, if not, that is how the cookies crumble. In the meantime the Profile is on the Internet for any lady interested in reading it and deciding.
I just received the reply from the lady that initially contacted me. No answers to my questions about her contract and other agency tie-ups. The answer to my imbedded email, I will lift the answer from the EMF:
know the computer system. It always takes much time. I understand you.
My English is not good, so in order to make our communication more clearly, I think we'd better write letter here, ok?
This lady also, like the Doctor, she has a computer.
This lady lists, ENGLISH: FAIR.
The reply gives me the impression that it is the regular canned reply the agencies have.
Maybe the agency phoned her and she said (like the regular Thai reply when a Thai is put in front of having to make a decision “Up to You”).
This Forum is very interesting, has a lot of good information for newbies and supplies me with how other people look at a subject.
DrFransBRoosPHD
