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General Discussion and Useful Links => The Campfire => Topic started by: Proteus on October 31, 2009, 08:38:30 am

Title: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Proteus on October 31, 2009, 08:38:30 am
http://www.youtube.com/ has been blocked here in China since about May so direct IE surf leads to an empty page. Being a semi computer idiot, I have not many ideas to try. I've tried on-line proxy which allows me images and texts but never videos. A software named "free gate" from some pro-liberal orginasations on exile, has been my last resort for a couple of months. But now even it cannot be launched.So now I am desperate. I badly miss the music clips there. Will be grateful to any advice or thoughts.

Tks
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Willy The Londoner on October 31, 2009, 09:07:55 am
Damn - when i sawthe heading I thought at last, at  last I can see the youtube bits that are talked about on here!!!

Oh well keep on looking.:@

Willy
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: mustfocus on October 31, 2009, 09:53:35 am
Quote from: 'Proteus' pid='21464' dateline='1256992710'

http://www.youtube.com/ has been blocked here in China since about May so direct IE surf leads to an empty page. Being a semi computer idiot, I have not many ideas to try. I've tried on-line proxy which allows me images and texts but never videos. A software named "free gate" from some pro-liberal orginasations on exile, has been my last resort for a couple of months. But now even it cannot be launched.So now I am desperate. I badly miss the music clips there. Will be grateful to any advice or thoughts.

Tks


Not sure if this will work, but there are places out there which will let you establish a VPN connection (an encrypted connection) to somewhere else and then through there, you can get to other locations.  The response is usually slower, but it's better than nothing.  I haven't really done much research on VPN providers as all the VPN connections I normally use are local, but it works fine.

A quick search came up with Metropipe and Perfect Privacy.  Didn't look into them, but it's an example of what is out there.  Hope that helps.
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Chong on October 31, 2009, 03:42:53 pm
I used a free VPN called "UltraSurf" that a friend loaded for me before my trip on Aug 8th. It worked for one month then it failed to connect for the next month.

There are VPNs that charge a monthly fee; perhaps, they work better than the free ones ??? :huh:
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Martin on October 31, 2009, 10:13:41 pm
I am looking into TOR right now.  Took me a bit to set it up...had to do an internet search on how to set it up, but it seems to be working fine now.  The real test will be when I get to China.
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Proteus on November 04, 2009, 09:14:56 am
Thank you every one. I'll try the ways you advised. And Martin if you have any progress with TOR, I'm always interested. Really hope I have the eloquence of Cicero to persuade my government against net censorship and solve it ultimately. But perhaps even the union of Cicero, Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr cannot change its stubborn decision. :icon_confused:
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: David5o on November 04, 2009, 05:07:58 pm
I don't know if this will solve your problems or not, but i found this while trying to get on to a TV site.
If what it says here is correct, it should solve your problems. The program is called ''UltaSurf''

I copied this from the sites user guide!!

4. How to Use UltraSurf Program

A user is able to browse any website from the IE for the homepage or open a new window of IE to browse. For example, if the user wants to browse the Secret China news web site, simply enter the URL http://www.secretchina.com directly in the small URL window of the IE, UltraSurf will bring up the web site immediately.


I hope it is what your all looking for .....

David....
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: JimB on November 04, 2009, 05:13:31 pm
Quote from: 'David5o' pid='21982' dateline='1257372478'

I don't know if this will solve your problems or not, but i found this while trying to get on to a TV site.
If what it says here is correct, it should solve your problems. The program is called ''UltaSurf''

I copied this from the sites user guide!!

4. How to Use UltraSurf Program
A user is able to browse any website from the IE for the homepage or open a new window of IE to browse. For example, if the user wants to browse the Secret China news web site, simply enter the URL http://www.secretchina.com directly in the small URL window of the IE, UltraSurf will bring up the web site immediately.


I hope it is what your all looking for .....

David....


No David it doesnt work.  Both Chong and I tried it while there. Chong had it working for about a month then it quit.  I never got it working.
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: David5o on November 04, 2009, 05:25:06 pm
Jim,

OK, it was just a chance that it would work for you. These guys seem to be geared up to break the censorship on the net, so maybe an email to them telling them that there program doesn't work anymore, and do they have an update for there program for China's censorship?  ....You never know, they might just have one now...... haha!!

David.....
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: JimB on November 04, 2009, 05:49:40 pm
David, I just checked and there is a newer version out.  Maybe it will work.  No harm in trying it anyway.
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Chet Sams on November 04, 2009, 07:47:50 pm
Any body try this one yet.

Havent tried it myself by did see this site last night. Willy wanna try this out for us.

https://secure.logmein.com/US/products/hamachi2/default.aspx

Think this one is only for the states or uk only areas though

http://www.hideipvpn.com/
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Willy The Londoner on November 04, 2009, 09:28:33 pm
Quote from: 'Chet Sams' pid='21995' dateline='1257382070'

Any body try this one yet.

Havent tried it myself by did see this site last night. Willy wanna try this out for us.

https://secure.logmein.com/US/products/hamachi2/default.aspx

Think this one is only for the states or uk only areas though

http://www.hideipvpn.com/



Tried it and could not get it to work.

Willy
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: daghoi on November 07, 2009, 08:09:55 am
It might be that you have to set up a dedicated VPN tunell from your pc in china to a pc outside the Great Firewall, and surf from that pc. To be complete sure you might also have to do some kind of encryption of the traffic, the last point is even a bigger guess.

I suspect that the guys running the Great Firwall know of all the programs we discuss here, and they are looking for traffic that  have the "signature" of the these programs. If you are lucky enough to get it to work. They wil eventually close down the traffic.

I have a little knowledge of computers, but when diving into advanced networking/security stuff im on thin ice.

As far as i remember Irishman is working with network, mayby he can clearify ?
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: mustfocus on November 07, 2009, 08:57:48 am
Hi Daghoi,

By definition VPN connections are encrypted.  That's no where the problem would be.  VPN connections in and of themselves are not an issue.  They would use those types of connections as well for their own purposes and to devote the computing power to decrypt all those packets is a waste of resources.

The firewalls that China uses is multi-layered.  The site (or IP address) they would want to visit has to pass several criteria.  Those criteria can change without notice (as has been seen by many postings here) in addition to access to those types of sites.

Best I can recommend is to try a few sites that you feel comfortable with (in terms of encryption).  If you can get a VPN tunnel to somewhere out of China, great.  But don't be surprised if it gets blocked eventually.

We could probably recommend a few online sites for people who are just thirsting for news but want a perspective from outside of China.  For example, I'm not sure about the BBC, but Channel News Asia (Singapore's answer to the BBC) is accessable from China.  I know several talk radio stations from Toronto can be access there as well, although the time zone is 12/13 hours off so things can get confusing.
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: daghoi on November 07, 2009, 09:54:31 am
Hi !

Im plannig to some time next year to extend my vacation and work from china serving customer in Norway.

I will typacally set up VPN (cisco client) towards our office in Oslo, that would be and static ip adess of course. That will be running regulary, is it chance this one will be shut down ?

i will also have to log on to our customer, but it will be sporadic and changing all the time.

I did connect to the office when i was over last time, but then i was just a few times and for short period. This time i will probably have the VPN connection going for 7-8 hours a day, for two week time.
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Paul Todd on November 07, 2009, 11:20:44 pm
This works for now! You tube, facebook and a few others. Use this link  http://shanghaiist.com/2009/04/13/youtube_proxy_found.php
I've just tried it now and it looks ok ,but by the posts left on the site it might be a bit hit and miss. Best of luck

paul

More great firewall info on the TOR network crackdown  http://www.technologyreview.com/web/23736/

This message just popped up from You tube proxy "Your credit is over try again in 480 minutes or buy some credit.
To avoid the proxy server overloading the free service is limited to 8388608 bytes every 8 hours." Now they want 1.5 euro's a day or 15 a month. Hmmmmm
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: David K on November 10, 2009, 09:01:33 pm
My sweetheart is not yet technologicaly savvy.  
I download YouTube videos of interest with DownloadHelper/Firefox, and then convert the FLV files to AVI or WMA format and EMAIL to her. Crude, but it works.

And if anyone is interested in the files we share, try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMX2p3-oE-g

Its along the lines we are planning when the time comes,
and very graceful  ;-)

Peace
David K in Auckland
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: RegnisTheGreat on November 10, 2009, 09:48:12 pm
If you have an home in North America/Europe and have a DSL/Cable Internet. You can setup your own VPN and that should work really well. I did that last time I was in China and it was so simple. I connect to my VPN (to my PC at home here) and browse the net. Sure certain things was slower but nothing was blocked. If you are technical PM me and I can help you set it up.

If you can answer these questions, I will help you:
1) do you have a high speed internet at home with a static IP
2) do you have a Linux box at home?
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Proteus on November 14, 2009, 07:46:13 am
Thank you every one! RegnisTheGreat, unfortunately I have neither you mentioned. And I am an indigenous Chinese. I hope one day I can learn something of this field.

Great thanks, Paul! You way is working now! I've bookmarked the link already. Hope it can survive long.
Title: RE: how to view youtube clips from under internet blockade?
Post by: Danny on November 14, 2009, 02:37:24 pm
Quote from: 'David K' pid='22573' dateline='1257904893'

My sweetheart is not yet technologicaly savvy.  
I download YouTube videos of interest with DownloadHelper/Firefox, and then convert the FLV files to AVI or WMA format and EMAIL to her. Crude, but it works.



I do something similar to send her music.

1. I download the FLV files using the following address: http://www.youtubecatcher.com/

2. I email them to her

3. Then she plays them using the free Applian FLV Player program