China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Ask An Experienced Member => Topic started by: pr1969 on November 03, 2009, 01:37:56 pm
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Hi all,
I've been badly burnt on Chnlove several times, just like many other members on here.
I'm giving it one more try and would like to know if any fellow members could tell me whether the following agencies are honest or not:
1. Nanning OuYuan Marriage Information Consulting Service Co. Ltd.
2. Shenzhen XinYuan XinYan Club
3. Handan JuYuan Marriage Agency
My sincere thanks for all your comments in advance - if this issue has been addressed previously, could you perhaps give me the link? Thanks!
Best wishes from South Africa,
Peter
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i do not know about those agencies, but i would like to hear your story.
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I'm giving it one more try and would like to know if any fellow members could tell me whether the following agencies are honest or not:
1. Nanning OuYuan Marriage Information Consulting Service Co. Ltd.
2. Shenzhen XinYuan XinYan Club
3. Handan JuYuan Marriage Agency
Hi Peter....welcome :):)
It is not easy to give a simple answer to your question about those 3 Agencies.
Most of us here will be convinced that almost all Agencies (or the Translators) will add "spin" or "fluff" to the EMF's you get from the Women with whom you correspond.
Most Agencies tread a very fine line between ethics, honesty and reality....the hard part is deciding which !!
For this reason, we think the best way to go is to get away from EMF's as early as possible and get on to more personal communication with QQ and similar face-to-face communication.
If the Women you write to wont send "real" photos and are reluctant to meet you on QQ, then this is a red flag moment, and casts doubt on the integrity of the Agency/Translator/Lady.
There is some real worries with the Chansha Love Bridge Agency that they are involved in direct fraud..(ghost women etc)...but even with this impediment, some Bros have managed to cut through their crap and find a wonderful partner from this Agency...(check Abigbutt's posts...he was one who made it work)
Other than that, we are always here to help with any advice and information from a vast range of collective knowlege from all the Bros who have made some/part or all of this "journey"
Good hunting
DavidE
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Hi all,
I've been badly burnt on Chnlove several times, just like many other members on here.
I'm giving it one more try and would like to know if any fellow members could tell me whether the following agencies are honest or not:
1. Nanning OuYuan Marriage Information Consulting Service Co. Ltd.
2. Shenzhen XinYuan XinYan Club
3. Handan JuYuan Marriage Agency
My sincere thanks for all your comments in advance - if this issue has been addressed previously, could you perhaps give me the link? Thanks!
Best wishes from South Africa,
Peter
Greetings Peter,
Number 3 on your list the JuYuan Marriage Agency is quite possibly the best agency in all of CHNlove as far as I am concerned. This is the agency that my Zhen is from and I have met both owners Daniel and Echo personally. The are a late twenties married couple who truly care more about the ladies than making as much money as they can. They go well beyond the contract in helping the ladies and also the men who write to them in any way they can. They have webcam and a really decent group of ladies as translators. The one Zhen and I used is Una a really great translator who did not pad or fluff our emfs.
This agency as far as I have seen is what the ideal of CHNlove should be. Helpful very friendly and very caring about the ladies, oh and the fees they charge the ladies are some of the lowest of all the agencies. Truly good people.
From where I live in Handan they are an easy 10 minute walk and everytime I go I am treated as a friend not a client or customer. They know that since I am here in Handan there will be no emf revenue from Zhen and I anymore yet they continue to help with all kinds of things that have nothing to do with the purpose of the agency. They even helped me get internet for my laptop and printing and scanning help for paperwork for my job in Wuhu.
So all in all if your choice of lady leads you to this agency I am positive you will not be disappointed.
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
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Dear all,
Thanks so much for your highly informative replies & encouragement - much appreciated. Any further comments/suggestions would be most welcome. I'll get back to you all personally & will post my story soon!
All the best from the dark continent :) Peter
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They are probably all honest in their own way but com'on these are not just business people they are Chinese business people.
Willy
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My experience:
1. Nanning OuYuan Marriage Information Consulting Service Co. Ltd.
proof of reality of a woman provided easily when I requested.
2. Shenzhen XinYuan XinYan Club
They seem ok, some translator fluff but I am in direct contact now. watch for their service rates, I'm meeting a lady in Nov. and can update you
3. Handan JuYuan Marriage Agency
Hehe I can't know them all, but Brian Mc says they're good, trust him.
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Hi brothers,
Anybody know these guys?
Shenzhen Moonlove Info Consultancy Co. Ltd
Agency ID: P670
Any input appreciated!
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My experience:
1. Nanning OuYuan Marriage Information Consulting Service Co. Ltd.
proof of reality of a woman provided easily when I requested.
2. Shenzhen XinYuan XinYan Club
They seem ok, some translator fluff but I am in direct contact now. watch for their service rates, I'm meeting a lady in Nov. and can update you
3. Handan JuYuan Marriage Agency
Hehe I can't know them all, but Brian Mc says they're good, trust him.
Voiceroveip,
When you do your visit please update on thread: Have you been to an agency and/or met a woman? This is not as elusive as chnlove's same questionaire!
Thanks!
Jim
Butt for sure I will ;)
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bump for an update
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Well I went but I did not see the agency or the translator in the end.
I'm going again in a few hours, if things go sour I'll check them out for some speed dating (SZ XinYuan XinYan Club).
Cheers,
Frank
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Peter
I think David's post answers the general issues very well.
The only thing I would like to add, is to add the commonplace observation that on a statistical basis very few of the relationships you form will work out to be "the one". However because you don't know which one of the many will work out, you need to start out each one as though they actually were going to work out in the end.
You should communicate in a warm and open and friendly fashion. Don't let your concern about the reliability of this or that agency spoil the way you write to the women you wish to correspond with, for example, by writing in a cautious or tentative way.
Danny
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Hi brothers,
Anybody know these guys?
Shenzhen Moonlove Info Consultancy Co. Ltd
Agency ID: P670
Any input appreciated!
This is the agency my wife dealt with. She was friends with the owner but got in a disagreement with her owner friend about her success fee.
http://www.china-wife.net/ http://www.china-wife.com/ are their direct websites. One being for us men and the other the women's site.
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Nice picture of you of the ladies version Rhonald!
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Ron,
I wanted to see the ladies just to see if mine is there but with either link all I can see is men. How do you see the ladies that are available?
Shaun
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Ron,
I wanted to see the ladies just to see if mine is there but with either link all I can see is men. How do you see the ladies that are available?
Shaun
I am like you - I think the men buy an account inorder to see the ladies. Funny, how money seems to always be involved :-/ . I found my wife through the Chnlove.com site. It was when I went to visit my wife last December that I also went to her agency. They had a giant poster outside their doors with these website addresses listed.
Irish - I did have posted the same wedding pictures from my February trip when we registered our marriage. Maybe I should check here as I might have had them posted from the old Facegroup site. Once this site started, I cancelled my facebook profile.
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I've met the #1 Nanning agency personally, top class people. Sometimes a couple of letters there has been differences of opinion on translation between the translators, but it was all sorted in the wash. They have a great staff.
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I've met the #1 Nanning agency personally, top class people. Sometimes a couple of letters there has been differences of opinion on translation between the translators, but it was all sorted in the wash. They have a great staff.
That's good to know. I will be visiting them next month.
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Greetings Peter,
Number 3 on your list the JuYuan Marriage Agency is quite possibly the best agency in all of CHNlove as far as I am concerned. This is the agency that my Zhen is from and I have met both owners Daniel and Echo personally. The are a late twenties married couple who truly care more about the ladies than making as much money as they can. They go well beyond the contract in helping the ladies and also the men who write to them in any way they can. They have webcam and a really decent group of ladies as translators. The one Zhen and I used is Una a really great translator who did not pad or fluff our emfs.
This agency as far as I have seen is what the ideal of CHNlove should be. Helpful very friendly and very caring about the ladies, oh and the fees they charge the ladies are some of the lowest of all the agencies. Truly good people.
From where I live in Handan they are an easy 10 minute walk and everytime I go I am treated as a friend not a client or customer. They know that since I am here in Handan there will be no emf revenue from Zhen and I anymore yet they continue to help with all kinds of things that have nothing to do with the purpose of the agency. They even helped me get internet for my laptop and printing and scanning help for paperwork for my job in Wuhu.
So all in all if your choice of lady leads you to this agency I am positive you will not be disappointed.
Regards,
Zhen and Brian
Dear Brian,
I just called Handan JuYuan Marriage Agency ,their manager already off work, But there is a young lady named Miss Wang talked with me through the phone. Their manner sounds really different from Shenzhen agency which make you feel more sincerely.Shenzhen agency is quite expensive,And their staff think it is not that much according Shenzhen's economy level.
I have told Miss Wang about this forum, Beucause she is quite interesting that how I know them and I told her ,Maybe this agency staff will visit here soon.
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is there a location in guangzhou that maybe i could check out??
i dont go on the other site any more nothing happening in that forum
anylonger so no need to be there
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I can tell you right now I'm not getting good vibes from the P608 Nanning OuYuan Marriage Information Consulting Service Co. Ltd. The translator I'm working with is named Castle. It is like pulling teeth to get her to reply to my qq inquires. She also asked me to send her a list of member numbers that she could look up and she will get back with me while I was still in the U.S.. After about a week I sent her a qq to find out the status. Mind you I sent probably 8 profiles. Can't remember the exact number. She finally responded and said that two are in conversations now with men and the others have not gotten back or whatever. Can't recall exactly, but they appeared to not be in play as of then. Then after I arrived I called the office number and got an out of service recording on one number and the other number had a message "cell powered off" LOL. Right in the middle of a weekday, and it wasn't lunch. Another time I did get through and Castle was out of the office until tomorrow. I'm okay with that, as it happens. Today I call and they yell for Castle and I sit there and wait and wait until finally someone just hangs up the phone LOL. I call right back and they yell for Castle again, and again I wait and wait. Finally a guy gets on and is so quiet I can hardly hear him. He said Castle was not in today LOL. I left him a message and told him to tell her my name and I'm coming to see her. At this point I'm digging my heels in the sand. I aint walking away lol. Then the guy says to me to call after 2pm today. WTF? This is the unorganized chaos that is China. So I told him I would try to do it.
If I had to rate them today I would give them a BIG POOR rating. The Yibang agency seems to be a lot more responsive, but the only problem is that they don't have as many women who are what I'm looking for. I'll keep you updated
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looking forward to the update. they dont have a land line in the office?
seems to be all cell phones?
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Peter,
I did not read through the whole thread so if someone covers it forgive me. I was burned on chnlove and I moved over to blossoms.com. I have a thread on it and how to use it to your advantage. I met the woman of my dreams there and we have been talking several months on yahoo messenger. It has been our only form of communication. Many will disagree with me but there are a few here that have found success just like I have. I go to see her the first of April.
Shaun
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Shaun,
at least on the other sites you dont have to deal
with dishonest agencies and translators like on chnl
i also found my wife on cll or maybe i should say she
found me on there:icon_cheesygrin: how are things with
you and Peggy? i hope all is well
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To follow up on my previous post on P608 in Nanning.
I finally was able to talk to my translator. She gave the usual excuses of being busy, but seemed helpful on the phone. She said she would come to the office on Sunday if need be to sit down and go through their database. Sounds good, but we'll see how the follow-thru goes when I get there. Planning to leave tomorrow to go back to Nanning.
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ok, keep us posted and have a good trip ... I used them a good while back, profile was real, but then more recently with someone else, I have my doubts... hit & miss as with many agencies I guess.