China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Ask An Experienced Member => Topic started by: chen yan on January 13, 2010, 04:32:41 am
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Dear Brothers,
Here I think it over to find an agency as a platform to put my file into CHNLOVE. Then let fate lead me to the right one.I think it may have more opportunities than just stay quitely without doing nothing. I donn't know how much CHNLOVE charge from men,I guess it must more expensive than other online dating website which you just need spent a little money to register. And just because it is too easy so those website is filled with different intention dangerous men. So I guess CHNLOVE should be better than others.Because you have to pay so much money into it,you must be more serious about it.
Does any brother who has succeed has some agency to recommend which is truely help women? And how much do they charge from your lady?
Since I live in Shenzhen, Should I only look for Shenzhen agency, or also can consider other agency in other city?
Thanks in advance!
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I have called Handan Juyuan agency, Now I am waiting for their manage's reply. I will put the information here for everyone's reference.
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Chen Yan
We dont pay a joining fee to be with CHNLove. Men pay for each letter that goes to and from a Lady. These are known as EMF's and you will see many references to EMF's on the Forum here.
When Men write a letter to you, it is translated by the Agency and sent to you. Your reply is also translated by the Agency and sent to the Man.
Our big problem here is that we are never sure that the letters we receive say the same words as the Lady herself...we never know how much the Translator has "added" or "modified" the words.
CHNLove wants to keep EMF's exchanging between men and Women because that is where they get their profit.
We all try to get to more personal communication such as QQ with the Women with whom we correspond, but this is not liked by the Agency, because they will lose EMF money.
On the "free" sites...Blossoms, Chinese Love Links etc, the fees are small, but there are many strange people who use the free services. But some of us here found our Princess through the free services, so it is not impossible...just need to be careful who you share your details with.
It is best to be with an Agency who is close to your home because if you can get on to QQ with a Man, you will get to know him more easily and more better. So if you dont have a home computer, it is better to be close to the Agency to use their computer.
If you have a home computer, you may wish to tell the Agency that you insist on more personal communication after several EMF's and tell them that you will decide which Man or Men to know you on QQ.
There are bad men out there...there are good men out there.........be careful, be watchful and give it a try...you may be pleasantly surprised.
I am sure you have read many posts on our Forum and know the problems that can happen.
But remember...we are all here to help you....so dont hesitate to ask about anything you are not sure about, we will answer ....with pleasure.
David
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I have called Handan Juyuan agency, Now I am waiting for their manage's reply. I will put the information here for everyone's reference.
Chen, I am talking with a lady from this agency. I see you posted on another thread about the Juyuan agency to BrianMc. I looked into this agency also because he had good feedback about it. So far, they have been great. I sent a few EMF letters to Sha (my lady) and then we did a webcam, then went straight to communicating with our own emails and webcams. I do not know what they charge the ladies or about their meeting fees or success fees. I am planning a trip to Handan in March to meet Sha.
This is just my 2 cents worth on this agency. If it is in travel distance for you, it might be worth a shot. I am not sure about agencies in Shenzhen.
Like David E said, check them out, then check them out again, before giving them a bunch of money to sign with them.
Best of luck.
Don
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Dear Sister
From my discussions with women who have done this sort of thing, and my own experience, I offer the following suggestions:
1. avoid paying large sums of money to an agency - there is no necessary connection between money and results. Many men and women regret the large sums they have paid to their agency.
2. try a number of websites and see what works for you - use the large and reputable websites in preference to the ones you have not heard about before
3. pay more attention to what a person does, than what they write and promise
4. be patient - it often takes several months for a person to reveal their character
5. it is much better to be alone, than to be with a worthless person
6. men love to pursue and win the heart of a woman, if he wins you too easily, he will not value you, if he feels you cannot be caught, he will lose hope *laughs*
These sound like platitudes, and they are, but like a lot of things, I wish I had worked this all out earlier rather than later . . . good luck!
Danny
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chen yan,
I will add my two cents.
Convenience dictates that you choose one the of Shenzhen agencies. If you go to the list linked to "have you ever visited and agency?" on Chnlove you will find another link in it that will show you a list of agencies that is/was rated by men who have visited the agencies around China. I have looked at this list more than once, and Shenzhen is one of the cities I will be in, so it was in my best interest to do this. First I am visiting the Nanning agencies. There was one agency who had nothing but good to excellent ratings by men. I can't remember the name whether it was the Moonlove, Oriental, or another agency, but it was consistently good for the past 2 to 3 years. Here's the thing about choosing local. If a guy wants to come and meet you, and you are with an agency, in say Beijing then I believe you would need to travel there, but since it appears you know English then I guess not. They could just come to you. Not sure what they would require. Also you have direct contact with your translator face to face on what YOU want to see as service goes. By the way you could tell whatever agency you go with that you want to be contacted each time you get a response from a man. Don't let them respond for you, as they could screw it up and you could be losing a really good guy, and you would never know it. Just a thought.
From agencies I have experience with: The Beijing Cultural... I was not impressed with; Shanghai tian... there service was awful for the man and moreso for the woman. Stay away from them; 218? Changsha MeiYin agency-i had direct contact with them and they are to date the best agency i have worked with. their service to me was more than i expected. they try like heck to find you someone; Nanning 512 Yibang Rose... pretty good; Nanning 608 OuYuan agency- i have my doubts but will have more info after i visit. So if you want to go with an agency outside of Shenzhen then there are a few I have experience with. Number one would be 218 in Changsha. My friend and his Chinese wife started their own site, and do business with them. I have personally met and had dinner with the owners. First class people and first class operation. I was really impressed. They appear to do it the right way. If I was ready at the time I know they would have found someone for me. It was Oct '08. Now that I think of it I should be visiting them in Changsha lol. I have my sites set in the south and didn't want to fly all around China. Nanning and Shenzhen are enough.
If I think of something more I'll post it.
Hope this helps some.
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Dear Danny,
Your advice is not platitudes but essence,They are very important reminder for me before I start any action.And I truly need an expert brother to tell me this.Thank you very much Danny!
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Dear Don,
It is good to hear everything goes well in that agency.March is coming soon, I think your happiness is more and more near. Hope to hear your further development in the future.
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Dear David E,
Thank you for your being so patient to explain this to me. Patient is really a virtue which I have to learn.
About the free website chineselovelinks I have used, I ever denounced a bad men to their customer service center,but they just replyed me I donn't have evidence and ignore it. And they donn't have a strict verification about men's authentic status.Like some married men pretend they are single which I have met .So I try to avoid to spent more time and energy to distinguish these and would rather find a more safe website.
I haven't been in a forum such a long time,and haven't realized that how attractive a forum can be, I just cann't help to log into here as long as I have time.
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Dear Sister;
I would recomend agency #204 in Beijing. My finance (XiuRu) lives in Anshan but listed with this agency. Scott and I have both been to this agency in the past three months. They are very good, and very honest. I do not know the price that they charge the ladies, but I do know that they have very good results. Please consider this agency and if you contact them, tell them Gene and Scott are both happy with their services. I wish you the best of success.
buzz
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Chen Yan,
i really dont think any one agency is really better than another. they will all have the
good with the bad and it all just depends. what i will advise is to take your time and
just be careful. eventually someone will come along who is a good person and he will
take your heart. your still a young lady and have time to settle down and have your
family. i wish i knew someone i could recomend to you but all my freinds are old like me
in their 50's. if your looking for someone from the USA we have many members here who
live there and have family and freinds there who would be happy to check out someone
for you. i mean maybe just meet them and chat with them to get a feel of were their
head is at. if my wife and i get to Shenzhen any time we would like to invite you to
dinner at a good place you can recomend there. good luck and be safe and careful
and take your time in this
Ted
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Dear Chen,
I posted a thread on this forum for you. I found it in the back pages of the forum and thought you might be interested in reading it.
It came from a Chinese newspaper. Be careful my friend, and choose wisely on the agency's. I hope that thread helps you.
I would love to hear your response to it.
I will see if I can find more for you.
I'll email you later.
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I can't believe you guys.Over 300 members here.And you guys are suggesting letting your little sister sign up with one of these agencies.I Think you all need to bury your heads in shame.Chen yan asked for help and this is all you guys can come up with.
I know there is some members here who are close to the same age as Chen yan.Who are not married.Who do not have a girlfriend.Who would probably make a close to perfect match with Chen yan.So where are you at you cowards.Climb out from under your beds and start living your life.Take a chance with a little romance.With the very beautiful and Clever Chen yan.
I know out of the 300 odd members here .That some of you have friends.That aren't on this site.Or the other sites.That you could introduce your little sister to.
Chen yan I apologize for are brothers behavior.I can't believe that one of them has not gone to China.And crawled across China on there knees.Just to be with the beautiful andCleaver woman that you are.Are brothers bring great shame to themselves.
Maxx
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Dont look at me maxx i didnt agree to her joining. I would rather she didnt join a agency either. I would take a shot but im still thinking the age diff is possibly too out of my area. Its borderline but is still optional. And yes Chen is beautiful and smart. And surprising as it is she is still single. But i see you view on the subject maxx. They should be ashamed.
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Thank you for your guys' warm help !
Maxx ,Your words make me cool down. I think I should just take my time .Now I know the power of the SUPER moderator.hehe :icon_cool:
And Jeff and buzz's information are also very useful , Maybe I wonn't use it,But it sure be very helpful to other members.
Ted,Thank you for your considerate suggestion and invitation.I would like to recommend some nice restaurant to you here ,just PM me.
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Wow, I have looked at your MSN photos, you are a super lovely lady Chen Yan!!!
Sorry I already have a lady :icon_cheesygrin:. I think once my friends see how lovely my Chinese lady is then they will all want Chinese wives though.
Have you thought about finding a job overseas? If you are good at languages you might be able to find a job in a different country. That could be a good way to meet a nice man. Studying overseas is also an option.
Be careful with agencies. My lady hasn't told me why she left her agency, but I think something bad may have happened :s.
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It is not as easy as that Brett, to find a job in a foreigm country for a Chinese - why do you think so many have to be smuggled into the UK. And as for studying, well as I understand from others, then Chinese students at Colleges or Uni have to pay high oversea students rates up front.
I just go off my sickbed to look at the forum and hope that I can complete this posting before I have to dive off again (wont say where, as I get into trouble for mentioning that place on here, but hopefully my stomach will be more settled in a day or so.)
I am with MAXX on this. A beautiful young woman asks us for help and what do we do. Give her a few words of our wisdom!
Any one of you 300 odd on here would be delighted to have Chen yan next to you every day of your life (Except you married and engaged ones.
Cannot we be more postive - every one of us somehow would have more direct means of helping her than just giving advice.
Take away my sickness, my fiancee and maybe thirty years and I would do just what Maxx says and I would crawl from Zhongshan to Shenzen.
Lets have some more positive views - I have website space that I has spare capacity on and I will glady use that if it will help.
Lets get our heads together.
Sorry got to run!!!!
Willy
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Run forest run....ha ha the man with olympic legs...:icon_cheesygrin:
I am already writing Chen guy's, she is a great pen pal and we discuss many things. I like Chen and we are good friends. I'll bet that if I ever get to China (which I will) My friend Chen would not mind showing me around, just as if she came here, I would show her around.
:icon_cheesygrin: By the way her english is great and she is smart and I promised to show her how to ride horses....
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I am with Maxx on this one. Why should you waste money, when there are single men right in this group. All you have to do is look at the list of men on the thread here (http://www.chnlove.info/showthread.php?tid=59) and see who is single. Write some PM's, and see if there are any sparks. You are here, the single men are here...why waste money?
Why not tell us something about yourself, and what you are looking for in a person, and what age range you feel you would like to be with. Certainly this was not the original intent of this group...but the brotherhood has now become the brother and sisterhood. I would look here, and see what happens. I wish you the best in your search.
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Your poor Willy,I guess your stomach still cann't get used to the Chinese food? Your financee must cook too much food to feed you .
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It's the chicken legs and green beer Chen...:icon_cheesygrin:
I don't think his wife's cooking had anything to do with it, he must have cooked for himself...:icon_eek: that night....LOL - good thing his wife didn't eat any, they only have one toilet...:icon_cheesygrin:
By the way, I agree with maxx also. As soon as I find someone who is worthy of you, honest, and faithful. I'll be sure to point them your way, and you know I will. That's what true friends are for...
Don
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Hi Willy - yes I know it is not easy to study or work abroad overseas. But it can be done. The UK is full of Chinese students. And there are ladies on chnlove who work abroad for Chinese companies (I talked to a couple of them).
I'll have a think about who I know who would like Chen (well apart from me!!!!). But as Martin says, it would be useful to know what kind of man we need to look for :fi_lone_ranger:.
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Hi Willy - yes I know it is not easy to study or work abroad overseas. But it can be done. The UK is full of Chinese students. And there are ladies on chnlove who work abroad for Chinese companies (I talked to a couple of them).
I'll have a think about who I know who would like Chen (well apart from me!!!!). But as Martin says, it would be useful to know what kind of man we need to look for :fi_lone_ranger:.
I know it can be done Brett it is just so inexpensive unless your folks have a lot of money. My friends daughter was in the Uni hotel building in Sussex there where 14 chinese girls in her unit and every had had to pay thousands of pounds for each years study.
Willy
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thanks Chen yan i will do that and pm you on the places to go to
in shenzhen. thanks and if you have any questions about anything
please pm me as i will give you my advice based on the wisdom i have aquired
these past few centuries i have been here hahaha old man just kidding
we are thinking of going to h.k. disneyland after the chinese new year and then
stop over in shenzhen so maybe we could all meet. and if you ever come to Guangzhou please
let us know and we will take you out for dinner Ted
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Chen I must say if I was in your age range and had NOT found my lady, I would definetly shown an interest in you. My charms would have worked a treat...hehe:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::angel:
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Yan , haha ... if it's ok with Qing ... I would like to adopt you as my Step-daughter .
If I come across any friend of mine that is Single and looking to find a wonderful Lady like yourself , I like to make both of you happy if possible . So ... my Ear and Eyes are wide open :icon_cheesygrin: .
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Yan, Proteus is right as always, I can only recommend match.com, I met my ex-girlfriend on that service, although she was from France. You can also try meetic.com (they bought match.com recently), it's a French company ... both sites are free for women, men pay a monthly fee. You'll find more North Americans on Match, more French and other Europeans on meetic ... but as with all dating sites, use caution!
Proteus you're a star!
Frank
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Thank you for all your help .
Sorry to reply late,Proteus, Are you also a Chinese? And Frank,you can read Chinese? Wow...
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Thank you for all your help .
Sorry to reply late,Proteus, Are you also a Chinese? And Frank,you can read Chinese? Wow...
Proteus is in China. He is a former agency translator.
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was he working for one of the agencies on china love??
what happened as to why he isnt there ??
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Well, we at least have the attention of one agency in China. I just got off a chat with my lady and she brought up this forum. Wanted to know if i was a part of it. I asked how she knew about it and she told me her agency told her. It is the one Chen contacted. The Handan Juyuan agency.
Don't know how much they listen or take to heart what we say, but they are definitely aware. She thought it was great that I was in contact with men who have Chinese wives or girlfriends. As i said before, they do seem like a decent agency. Maybe I'll visit them when i go.
Don
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Thank you for all your help .
Sorry to reply late,Proteus, Are you also a Chinese? And Frank,you can read Chinese? Wow...
Hi Yan, I can but only with the help of Google translate :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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Hi there Chen. I'm new here. I have a lot of single friends here that are younger. I too will direct one your way if and only if I feel he is worthy. You sound like a perfect catch for any good worthy man in your age range. Now where did I put that fountain of youth bottle...... My avatar is a picture of my car at the entrance to the fountain of youth in St. Augustine Florida. I was there with one of my daughters just last month. Where did I put that bottle....?
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Hi Yan,
I am Chinese therefore not suitable for you, haha...
Napoleon said : If you want a thing done well, do it yourself.
I have 2 suggestions, how you can help yourself :
1) I find CLL a good place, at least for guys, and many brothers here also found their lovers there, anyway better than CHN because there is no inteference from agencies & translators. Your English is better than average, so you should do well there. Of course you must find out for yourself who are good or bad men, nobody else can do it for you, not agencies or translators.
2) I have met many good lady friends in China who worked in jobs that give opportunities to meet foreigners. What is your work? I find a job like hotel staff, translator, tour guide (English speaking) both give you money and also let you meet foreign men (haha side benefit). The best, if you have the skills, is being a factor/factotum.... you make a lot of money, AND meet rich businessmen !!! :icon_cheesygrin: I knew one such girl, too bad she had already found a "gwailo"/"laowai" hahaha. Another is teaching Chinese to laowais, but the pay may be low, and I am not sure who you will meet, but then "life is a box of chocolates, never know what you're gonna get". :dodgy::angel:
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Bee --- when you find that bottle send me some please :icon_cheesygrin:
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Bee --- when you find that bottle send me some please :icon_cheesygrin:
I will send you some when I find it. It tasted like crappe though. sulfer water with some other stuff in it. :dodgy: I did bring some back though, Put it in a zepherhills watter bottle. I remember moving it to a safe place but I don't remember where I put it. :huh: Where is that bottle.....
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ok great looking forward to it at my age i need all the help :icon_cheesygrin:
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Guess what I found Ted........ found the bottle.
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great hahaha send me some hahah
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Hello Bee964, I see how you treat your daughter's bf, That's crazy but funning! I guess the boy will never dare to do the wrong thing.
So I believe your insight .
odysseus007 ,thank you for your advise. I would like friend's recommendation it is more reliable.
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Hello Chen,
Yes, it is a daddy thing that all fathers of daughters will understand. If you listen to the 2 songs I mentioned you may get an insight into a fathers mind from both the fathers mind as well as the boyfriends.
Dave C
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Hello Bee964, I see how you treat your daughter's bf, That's crazy but funning! I guess the boy will never dare to do the wrong thing.
So I believe your insight .
odysseus007 ,thank you for your advise. I would like friend's recommendation it is more reliable.
Well Yan,
I can also recommend decent guys, but they are all probably in Singapore !!! About 20% Caucasian & 80% are Asian. Anyway, you being the ONLY GIRL here will have plenty of recommendations, :icon_cheesygrin: What are your requirements?
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send it via china post Bee :icon_cheesygrin:
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Chen,
Some of the brothers tried that Youth drink. I think we drank a little too much....you can take your pick now...Willy is still at it....:icon_cheesygrin:
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Yan , haha ... if it's ok with Qing ... I would like to adopt you as my Step-daughter .
If I come across any friend of mine that is Single and looking to find a wonderful Lady like yourself , I like to make both of you happy if possible . So ... my Ear and Eyes are wide open :icon_cheesygrin: .
Hey Arnold, you think I could get a good reference from you. Haha.
Chen Yan, Nice to meet you. Welcome sister.
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Have you guessed who is who in the baby pictures yet ? Willy is the one with the bottle (liquid Viagra), Shaun is the one with the strange look on his face and needs to be changed...haha
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hey rocky willy is almost done test marketing it and will
roll out an extensive marketing campaign :icon_cheesygrin:
i hope they are not all your kids hahaha
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Hello Chen Yan!
My wife and I have a friend here, in Changsha, that met her husband on match.com. She didn't pay a thing for this! She is happily married to a man from Canada! We wish you the best!
Jim & Zhong! :icon_biggrin:
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Hello Chen,
Yes, it is a daddy thing that all fathers of daughters will understand. If you listen to the 2 songs I mentioned you may get an insight into a fathers mind from both the fathers mind as well as the boyfriends.
Dave C
Oh yeah I know all about this daddy daughter thing. I already told my beautiful 7 year old that she can't have a boyfriend until she's at least 25 lol.
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Oh yeah I know all about this daddy daughter thing. I already told my beautiful 7 year old that she can't have a boyfriend until she's at least 25 lol.
I have a boyfriend application form if anybody needs it. Maybe I should post it here. Hahahaha!:icon_cheesygrin:
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Bee yeah I have one too. :icon_biggrin:
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Ni hao Chen Yan
If you see this in time ... Happy New Year and Happy Valentines too
Maybe the mods could set up a special section for Chen Yan where she can post her profile ... ? Much better than telling the poor girl to go to some other websites.
She'll also have loads of protective Dad's here :icon_razz:
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but it would only do good for her if someone from the forum wanted
to try and start a relationship with her. i dont think we have people looking
on here searching except for our members who are searching or with their
ladies
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Aaahhhh to be twenty years younger........
And I don't look like this......
Dave C
Aaahhhh to be twenty years younger........
And I don't look like this......
Dave C
Or this.......
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I don't know, that first one is pretty close....hahaha LOL :icon_cheesygrin:
that second one kinda looks like chairman shaun, what do you think willy? :icon_cheesygrin:
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now what kind of statement are they trying to say about themselves?
it would be interesting to see them in china walking around the cities
and you think we get stared at
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ahkiwi, I wouldn't want to segregate Chen Yan to one place only just because she's female. If she wants this she can do it herself, no need for the mods to set it up.
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No worries Vince :)
I had a sudden thought while reading this thread that we should start a matchmaking site ourselves :P
Although that post was more about trying to help Chen Yan than anything else..
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I have suggested that also, specially to Shaun who was looking for somthing to do in China. Told him it would be the ONLY honest
site there. And therefore have many customers....$$$$
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i believe it needs to have a chinese partner to be regulated by the govt
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i believe it needs to have a chinese partner to be regulated by the govt
Well, Chen can be the partner, lol, then she can have her pick! Echoing some of the other comments here, too bad I can't lose about 20 years real quick...sigh....
Good luck Chen Yan, I hope that you find the perfect mate for you! I'm glad you started this thread, I see some good info to have about chnlove and the agencies that may be better than others....in fact, I see a good reference to Changsa 218, which is the agency that the lady who gave me her personal email addy in her admirer mail is a part of.
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I am all for match making - but not sure my wife will approve!!!!!:icon_cool:
As Ted says you need a Chinese National to be part of it - but those with wives here it is no problem.
You do need a special licence to introduce Chinese Nationals to Foreigners - however a percentage of the Chnlove agencies do not have that licence. Maybe that is why they do not provide addresses!!! But in any dispute with an agency always ask to see their licence it might just give you a winning hand.
Willy
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Willy, thought you were married to a Chinese National, and soon so will Shaun. Just explain that it's only a business and your name isn't Tiger Woods and that
it makes money (lots of it) and I'm sure that your wife will understand. Because business is business. Besides it will keep you off the streets selling those little
blue pills....haha :icon_cheesygrin:
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rocky- its not that simple just being married doesnt guarantee getting the liscence
there is also the financial part of it and stability part of it they look at some
strange things when you try to open a business otherwise everyone from all
over would have businesses here just an fyi