China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Newbies Corner => Topic started by: jimmysilk on February 07, 2010, 04:44:26 pm
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Hello everyone,nice to meet you,jimmy here from oz.....
This is my first post,just joined up recently after finding out about this forum,many thnx for the opportunity.I've been on chnlove about 9 months now and have been exchanging emfs(expensive huh)with a lovely lady for about 6 months,she is divorced and has a son.We seemed to be getting on great,she was very keen for us to meet and get together.,all her letters were very genuine,I'm certain of that.Just yesterday I went to reply to her and to my distress her profile has been removed without a word,so I'm unable to reply.This is extremely upsetting.I dont know what to do as I dont have her private email or her address. I'm absolutely sure she was sincere,also her translater,as i spoke to her a few times before,but dont know her name.Agency is Gaungzhou Daniel International P 688.
Has anyone had this happen???????....also how does one contact the agency direct???????? is this possible??,cant seem to find their contact details on the web.........helppppppppp....should I contact chnlove customer service????
Any advice from more experienced brothers will be greatly appreciated,I'm a bit green at this sort of thing and have had some doubtful experiences with chnlove before,but this is the icing on the cake as we were planning to meet very soon and were getting on famously with long letters every week.......anyway........is this just another chnlove sad story??????????
sincerely
jimmy
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Hi Jimmy,
Welcome to the forums! I'm sorry to hear what happened with your lady. How do you know the profile has been removed? Did you get a message saying it was removed? One thing you can do is go back to an older message (say her last message to you) and click on her picture to confirm it's gone. But if I remember correctly (and it's possible that I am not), that agency doesn't have a very good reputation. You might not remember, but did you give her your email address at any point? If so, and she doesn't hear from you, she might try another method to get ahold of you. You can try to contact the agency directly, but I suspect they won't give it to you. You can usually get the agency info from CHN if you contact them.
If this doesn't work, then I have to say you are one of the unlucky ones. As has been mentioned here (once you read through) that you should try to get some form of direct contact ASAP. At least her QQ number.
Again, welcome to the forums. Hope it turns out well for you.
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Jimmy there is a number of reasons why her profile mite be removed.Your lady might of closed her profile because she didn't want any more admiration mail.She may of closed it to just talk directly to you.
The best suggestion is do what mustfocus said.Also contact customer care if Mustfocus suggestion doesn't work.If all else fails we have a member in Gz we will send him over to the agency to see what is going on.
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Hi Jimmy,
Welcome to the forums! I'm sorry to hear what happened with your lady. How do you know the profile has been removed? Did you get a message saying it was removed? One thing you can do is go back to an older message (say her last message to you) and click on her picture to confirm it's gone. But if I remember correctly (and it's possible that I am not), that agency doesn't have a very good reputation. You might not remember, but did you give her your email address at any point? If so, and she doesn't hear from you, she might try another method to get ahold of you. You can try to contact the agency directly, but I suspect they won't give it to you. You can usually get the agency info from CHN if you contact them.
If this doesn't work, then I have to say you are one of the unlucky ones. As has been mentioned here (once you read through) that you should try to get some form of direct contact ASAP. At least her QQ number.
Again, welcome to the forums. Hope it turns out well for you.
hi must,thnx for your quick reply
yes,I got the message wen i went to reply,also i clicked on her pic and it said profile removed,I did give her my email at an earlier stage so hopefully???????......wow,I thought that agency was ok??.......are there any good ones?????????god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheers
Jimmy there is a number of reasons why her profile mite be removed.Your lady might of closed her profile because she didn't want any more admiration mail.She may of closed it to just talk directly to you.
The best suggestion is do what mustfocus said.Also contact customer care if Mustfocus suggestion doesn't work.If all else fails we have a member in Gz we will send him over to the agency to see what is going on.
Hi Maxx.......thnx a lot........I understand wat yr saying but if that were the cae I would still be able to reply to her last letter would I not???
I guess I will try customer care..........see how that goes
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Two reasons for the removal would be, she didn't pay? or she closed it? If she closed it (by what you said) I would think she is going to contact you direct. Does she have the internet at home? The other thing is to contact Customer Care they will get a hold of the agency and call her if there's not reason given. She gets a copy of the letters so she would have the email address then.
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Two reasons for the removal would be, she didn't pay? or she closed it? If she closed it (by what you said) I would think she is going to contact you direct. Does she have the internet at home? The other thing is to contact Customer Care they will get a hold of the agency and call her if there's not reason given. She gets a copy of the letters so she would have the email address then.
Hi Vince,thnx for yr help
Previously, on two separate occasions,one just recently,I had requested that we talk direct.Although she had been taking regular english classes,She still did not want to as she had no pc at home and said her written english was not up to it,although I said I could translate her chinese letters and send also in chinese.Also she has her own business and would have the internet there I'm sure.
By the way her name is Allison Zhang ID P688132,from Wuhan,seemed a very sincere lady.........I will try customer care now
thnx again Vince,nice to meet some of the brothers on here.......
Jimmy there is a number of reasons why her profile mite be removed.Your lady might of closed her profile because she didn't want any more admiration mail.She may of closed it to just talk directly to you.
The best suggestion is do what mustfocus said.Also contact customer care if Mustfocus suggestion doesn't work.If all else fails we have a member in Gz we will send him over to the agency to see what is going on.
Hi again Maxx
Thnx for the offer to send a member to the agency,first,I'll give customer care a go,get back to you later.......ladies name is Allison Zhang ID p688132 from Wuhan.............many thnx
T
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cutomer care usually doesnt provide any help they give you
the standard fluff response
im sorry to hear this but stay with it
also maybe she is going to attempt to contact you directly after all she did have 6 months in it
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cutomer care usually doesnt provide any help they give you
the standard fluff response
im sorry to hear this but stay with it
also maybe she is going to attempt to contact you directly after all she did have 6 months in it
Yeah customer care is more like customer Scare, you have to armtwist them to do any damn thing, mostly you get some irrelevant generic answer. In this case I think it is more with the agency involved than CHNLove.
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i agrre the agency i should go check them out im in gz
anyone know their address??
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cutomer care usually doesnt provide any help they give you
the standard fluff response
im sorry to hear this but stay with it
also maybe she is going to attempt to contact you directly after all she did have 6 months in it
Yeah customer care is more like customer Scare, you have to armtwist them to do any damn thing, mostly you get some irrelevant generic answer. In this case I think it is more with the agency involved than CHNLove.
I agree...does anybody have this agency's chinese web address? And where are they located? These agency scams need to come to a stop! :@
Also Jimmy...access to pc's here (unless located in the deep sticks) is like anywhere else! The I don't speak/write/read/ English excuse is all translator generated...unless woman has no interest in you...she will be willing to have direct contact with you...there may actually be a 1/100,000,000,000,000 chance this excuse is true...butt very rare!
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My own slant on this is - if this was an agency scam then why suddenly cut of a source of income that has been going on for some months. Jimmy has made no plans to come to China to meet her yet so if this was an agency scam they could get a few more emfs fees out of him yet. So an agency scam I feel not.
I am thinking that a she has cut the connection herself for some reason or has simply not paid any fee that she should have. Maybe she has got cold feet about the amount of fee she will have to pay the agency when she finds a husband.
Jimmy you do not say how old her son is. If he is approaching college years then he may not want to move to OZ. Maybe the boys father will not give permission for him to leave China. There are many other reasons other than a scam. Sometime brothers are too quick to call 'Scam'.
But maybe this is a good time to consider approaching Chnlove as a growing unit and have a rep in place in as many cities as we have members living here who can call on agencies to make enquiries of an individual nature. This will give Chnlove more kudos and certainly help those still looking who may have doubts.
Some say that we are a small unit - but judging by the lack of people writing on the 'official' site then I wonder just how big Chnlove really is.
Willy
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cutomer care usually doesnt provide any help they give you
the standard fluff response
im sorry to hear this but stay with it
also maybe she is going to attempt to contact you directly after all she did have 6 months in it
Yeah customer care is more like customer Scare, you have to armtwist them to do any damn thing, mostly you get some irrelevant generic answer. In this case I think it is more with the agency involved than CHNLove.
I agree...does anybody have this agency's chinese web address? And where are they located? These agency scams need to come to a stop! :@
Also Jimmy...access to pc's here (unless located in the deep sticks) is like anywhere else! The I don't speak/write/read/ English excuse is all translator generated...unless woman has no interest in you...she will be willing to have direct contact with you...there may actually be a 1/100,000,000,000,000 chance this excuse is true...butt very rare!
Thnx Big,Ody and ttw.......maybe I been taken for a ride(again!!!!!),may never know cos I just went over all the EMFs I sent and I did'nt give her my email like I thought I had,just asked her 3 times over the course for direct contact.......and yes I have tried with customer care on 2 previous occasions about other dodgy matters to no avail........sigh........
Its a shame cos it all seems so genuine wen you first join up there,guess I'm a little too trusting and naieve........but I'm learning fast I hope
I'll keep up the spirits(pun not intended,haha)and carry on.......
cheers..
and yes how come its so difficult to find the agencies address's etc????
even their feedbac section goes through chnlove...........sheesh....
My own slant on this is - if this was an agency scam then why suddenly cut of a source of income that has been going on for some months. Jimmy has made no plans to come to China to meet her yet so if this was an agency scam they could get a few more emfs fees out of him yet. So an agency scam I feel not.
I am thinking that a she has cut the connection herself for some reason or has simply not paid any fee that she should have. Maybe she has got cold feet about the amount of fee she will have to pay the agency when she finds a husband.
Jimmy you do not say how old her son is. If he is approaching college years then he may not want to move to OZ. Maybe the boys father will not give permission for him to leave China. There are many other reasons other than a scam. Sometime brothers are too quick to call 'Scam'.
But maybe this is a good time to consider approaching Chnlove as a growing unit and have a rep in place in as many cities as we have members living here who can call on agencies to make enquiries of an individual nature. This will give Chnlove more kudos and certainly help those still looking who may have doubts.
Some say that we are a small unit - but judging by the lack of people writing on the 'official' site then I wonder just how big Chnlove really is.
Willy
Thnx willy,yes,good points,I was'nt really thinking it was the agency,just bewildered by the sudden cut off without a word,her son is 7/8 yrs old and lives with the father in another city most of the time,she takes him occasionally and he also stays with relos sometimes,the ex has recently remarried as well she told me,she seemed quite keen to move here though in our letters.........we were actually planning to meet sept last year but I had to put it off till spring this year,she seemed very disapointed,but I had good reasons why I could not make it.......anyway..
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Willy
You make a good point....I wonder just how much our views and philosophy is filtering back through the CHNLove system.
At least you can say that post after post after post on our Forum deals with the same issues. With very few exceptions we dont spend all the post time slinging S##T at everybody.......hopefully we are becoming the voice of reason in the whole debate ???
Maybe we only have 300+ members ?? but do we know how many guys just come for a read and go away...maybe armed with some new facts with which to turn a dark eye to the practices of CHNLove.
I fully agree that we have an opportunity to spread our "gospel" via the many Bros now living in China and also those planning to.
What should we do next ??
David
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My lady was with the Guangzhou Daniel agency - her profile also disappeared (but I know her contact details). Chnlove customer care might give you the agency's email address, but since the agency works for the lady not the man it's not guaranteed that you'll get any information out of them.
I still haven't got the whole story but it appears that a lot of the ladies pay this agency on a monthly (or quarterly?) basis. My lady is not wealthy so perhaps the agency has a budget option for such ladies?
The upside to this is that I might get away with not having to pay them a marriage fee :icon_cheesygrin:.
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I have written to Chnlove - I have received on reply concerning agency addresses being hidden
I have replied back to the reply and when or if I do receive anotherr answer then I will put all on here.
Willy
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good job willy let me know if i can get to them here in gz and report back
to everyone i have the time
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I have written to Chnlove - I have received on reply concerning agency addresses being hidden
I have replied back to the reply and when or if I do receive anotherr answer then I will put all on here.
Willy
Thats great Willy,hope for some progress on this issue.
I have just written to customer care about my matter,I also asked for the agency's contact details,I'll get back with their reply asap
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Scott, I know what you mean about the hidden profile but this isn't the same. It comes up with "No such Profile" or something like that?
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Jimmy,
Just found your thread and read thru it...I hope things work out positively with the lady you were writing.
I have had women (or the agencies) hide their profiles before, but were still able to write them after that. So it sounds like something else is happening here...what actually happens when you click the Reply button to send an EMF letter back to the woman?
Also, when a woman's profile was hidden, if I had her in my "favorites", I could still view the profile from there, just not from the normal search method Chnlove has set up...this is my experience, I don't know if Chnlove changed things since last fall...
Scott
hey samel,thnx for your thoughts
wen I click reply I get "the profile with this ID is not found"
THats new cos the other day it was something like"the profile of this lady has already been removed from our website,no reply is possible"
also wen you click on her pic you get the above less the reply bit
unfortunately I dont have her in my favourites list but I think also from there it would only work if she had hidden her file from others but me,not if it was removed altogether??
did you try to search her at all???
ID P688132......Allison Zhang....just curious
cos first off I thought she may have blocked just me or something ridiculus like that.........and is that possible??????
cheers
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Jim I already checked for the profile and it's gone. So NO she didn't block you.
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Jim I already checked for the profile and it's gone. So NO she didn't block you.
thnx vince.......is it possible for the ladies to block someone?,or the agency to?.......if so how would that come out on the site??...messages etc.......
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I think possibility speaking is that she has not made her next/current payment to the agency.
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they give them the chance to make payments?? i thought they
payed when they joined and after meetine marriage??
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I was wondering something here, I may have missed it, when was the last time you got a letter to her or from her Jimmy? You were exchanging letters every week?
Dave C
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Sometime if the lady cannot pay all up front, its done via payments.
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Different ways, I guess it depends on how they work it out at signing? I know one woman that paid it all at signing. My lady (I think) makes payments? I know she was figuring how to pay after she's here? asking how much the pay is for work. I think whatever it takes to get them signed up? They do.
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they have a a system that really works in their favor on both ends
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you have to remember there are two ends to this. We the men pay for EMF's by way of Chnlove, who provides the web site and the connection to the agencies. The agencies sign up the girls and they collect from them. So it's more of the agencies that causes the problems.
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Haha. I just had a thought. It's probably possible for a lady to block someone, but then it just opens the door for the agency to screw you over with fake emails until you figure it out. :dodgy:
I just wanted to mention also, Nina canceled her contract with her agency when we first met. When I returned home, her profile on chnlove had been removed, but I can still, to this day click her picture in the mails she sent me long ago and bring up her profile. Sometimes I go back and read some of the mails we sent each other. Then I start to wonder which ones she's written and which were fabricated by the agency, and I leave. Someday I hope I can show her and read some of the letters together. I hope they never delete them. I still hit the site once in a while to make sure my profile is still alive.
I hope you get a satisfactory answer. It's a shame and it sucks that it happened that way. I always believed that it's best to rip the bandage off quickly than ignore it. A "no" is better than a cold shoulder.
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Haha. I just had a thought. It's probably possible for a lady to block someone, but then it just opens the door for the agency to screw you over with fake emails until you figure it out. :dodgy:
I just wanted to mention also, Nina canceled her contract with her agency when we first met. When I returned home, her profile on chnlove had been removed, but I can still, to this day click her picture in the mails she sent me long ago and bring up her profile. Sometimes I go back and read some of the mails we sent each other. Then I start to wonder which ones she's written and which were fabricated by the agency, and I leave. Someday I hope I can show her and read some of the letters together. I hope they never delete them. I still hit the site once in a while to make sure my profile is still alive.
I hope you get a satisfactory answer. It's a shame and it sucks that it happened that way. I always believed that it's best to rip the bandage off quickly than ignore it. A "no" is better than a cold shoulder.
Neil,
Why don't you just print the letters up and bring them next time and show her. Just translate it with google translate and then print them. It may satisfy your curiosity somewhat.
Dave C
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Dave C What is past is Past you cannot change the past so why worry about it. Ancient Chinese proverb from my wife.
I have all my wifes letters from before.When she was with the agency.And the ones she wrote to me after she left the agency.My wife told me she has no interest in what happend before. Her interest is right here right Now.And toward the future.
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Dave C What is past is Past you cannot change the past so why worry about it. Ancient Chinese proverb from my wife.
I have all my wifes letters from before.When she was with the agency.And the ones she wrote to me after she left the agency.My wife told me she has no interest in what happend before. Her interest is right here right Now.And toward the future.
I only offered the suggestion to him so he could ease his mind about which letters his wife really wrote to him Maxx, that is all. I didn't mean it for any way to feel bad about the past. I myself would want to know which letters she actually wrote to me.
Dave C
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On second thought, I don't think I want to know. I'll keep the letters and maybe mention it to her some day. I'll leave the reading of them up to her.
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i to would be curious about if i maybe got scammed with what happened
but it would be the right thing to move on because there isnt anything you
could do about it other than finding another lady and moving on. the only way
for them to change their procedures and do something about the scamming
agencies is to boycott them totally but we all do know that it will never happen
as 1 person leaves with disgust and 10 more join. they know this and will continue
to make money at the mans expense, and the ladies, just dont get how the agencies
who scam could stand to make a lot more if they encourage marriage more than they
encourage scamming. but the longer i live here i am learning it is best to not try and
figure their mindset out in times like these
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Hello everyone,heres the latest update on my situation.
Late yesterday I received a seemingly quite positive response back from chnlove:here it is,ok
From: Connie Chong (Customer Care)
To: Jimmy Silk
Date: 09 Feb, 2010 GMT
Dear Jimmy,
It is Connie here taking care of your concern. Thanks for sharing your thought with us.
I can understanding your feeling at this moment and also can see you are sincere to communicate with Ms. Allison Zhang--P688132. It is our earnest wish we could be helpful to ease your concern. Just now, we contacted the agency P688. As advised, they would be greatly pleased if they could be of any help there. Here below is the email address from the agency. Please be free to contact them if any assistance are needed:
Email address:543072453@qq.com
Attn:Swallow
Further more, here below is the email address of Ms. Zhang from the agency. You could kindly take a look:
Hope the above information could be helpful to you. Sincerely hope everything goes smoothly with you and a promising relationship with your favorite lady could be expected. On our site, we have some tips that may help you have a better knowledge of direct contact, you may take a look at:
http://www.chnlove.com/help/tips_advice/article.php?id=18
Thanks again for your support to our service. Please feel free to let us know if you have additional question or concern. We'll be glad to help our sincere clients.
Kind regards,
Connie Chong
Chnlove Customer Care
As you can see they sent me the name of her translater and even Allisons email address.
I have'nt written to Allison yet but this morning I tried to send an email to Swallow at the agency, qq email address is not a valid one!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just wrote back to customer care to tell them........sheesh.......
I thought QQ numbers have 10 digits??????,maybe not as I'm new to QQ
and just joined up after reading about it on here.
Anyway,I am now awaiting their reply
I'll keep you posted,any thoughts appreciated,thnx bros/gals
see you
jimmy
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do you think chnl is taking a better turn to help against the
agencies who might not be operating properly???
that was a first i think
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Sorry everyone,the email address is ok!!!!!!!!.....my stupid mistake:blush:
jimmy
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Jimmy,
I think everybody here hopes there is a happy ending to this! Keep your head up and keep moving forward! Wish u the best bro!
Jim
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I have written to Chnlove - I have received on reply concerning agency addresses being hidden
I have replied back to the reply and when or if I do receive anotherr answer then I will put all on here.
Willy
This is what i received back fron Chnlove - make of this what you will I think they are just washing their hands so to speak
From: Willy
To: Chnlove Customer Care
Date: 08 Feb, 2010 GMT
Maybe if the addresses of agencies in your network was shown then this would add a great deal to the reputation given to this service. Maybe there is a reason for not being able to locate then. If so I would be interested
to find out why.
Willy
From: Flora Tsui (Customer Care)
To: Willy
Date: 08 Feb, 2010 GMT
Dear Willy,
Thanks for your message and kind suggestion.
Regarding your question below, as you have noticed that, Chnlove cooperates with the agencies that provide direct services to the ladies. Because of different situations and operations in each agency, some agencies may not provide service to the gentlemen directly, and they will not give their contact info to any gentleman before they know more about who he is, where he comes from, what he needs and what they can provide. Considering this situation, the agencies' contact info will not show directly in our site. Hope you can understand.
If you would like to obtain the agency's contact info, you may discuss with your lady directly, then she can talk to her translator and provide the info to you. Or, you may leave a message for the translator and ask for the details directly. Leastways, you may let us have the agency's ID, we will talk to the agency and ask them to provide you their contact info, one and only precondition is you have contacted the ladies from this agency before.
Still, we will forward your message to related department for further evaluation. Hopefully there will be some update in the near future. Thanks again for you kind suggestion.
Thanks again for your support to our service. Please feel free to let us know if you have additional question or concern. We'll be glad to help our sincere clients.
Have a great week!
Kind regards,
Flora Tsui
Chnlove Customer Care
From: Willy
To: Chnlove Customer Care
Date: 08 Feb, 2010 GMT
Thank you for your reply. The reason that I ask is that i would like to be assured that the agency that I may deal with does in fact have the required licence that permits them to introduce foreigners and Chinese nationals.
Unless you, as a company, can guarantee in writing that everyone of the agencies in this system does have the required licence then this would seem to be one way that we can be sure that we are dealing with a reputable company.
Unlike yourself I do live in mainland China and would like to visit various agencies to assure myself that everything in above board before approaching any further ladies.
Willy
From: Flora Tsui (Customer Care)
To: Willy
Date: 10 Feb, 2010 GMT
Dear Willy,
Ni hao! Thanks again for your message.
Firstly, I feel regretful for my late reply. As you may notice that, our Chinese New Year is coming, and the holiday starts from Feb 13 to Feb 19. Since many people will return to hometown and join family reunion, the holiday might start earlier or last longer for some people who are living far away from their hometown. Becuase of short-staffed, I have not been able to answer your question promptly. Hope you can understand.
About your concern of the agencies that Chnlove cooperates with, please note that we have detailed introduction at About Chnlove - Who Involves.
http://www.chnlove.com/help/about_agencies.php
Also, you may take a look at our Risks Disclosure Notice. In the first part, we have explained the relationship between Chnlove and the Service Providers, also known as the local agencies.
http://www.chnlove.com/help/disclosure.php
Hope the above info could be helpful. Please let us know if you have other question or concern, we will be glad to help you.
Have a lovely day and wish you a Happy Chinese New Year as well!
Kind regards,
Flora Tsui
Chnlove Customer Care
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I have written to Chnlove - I have received on reply concerning agency addresses being hidden
I have replied back to the reply and when or if I do receive anotherr answer then I will put all on here.
Willy
This is what i received back fron Chnlove - make of this what you will I think they are just washing their hands so to speak
From: Willy
To: Chnlove Customer Care
Date: 08 Feb, 2010 GMT
Maybe if the addresses of agencies in your network was shown then this would add a great deal to the reputation given to this service. Maybe there is a reason for not being able to locate then. If so I would be interested
to find out why.
Willy
From: Flora Tsui (Customer Care)
To: Willy
Date: 08 Feb, 2010 GMT
Dear Willy,
Thanks for your message and kind suggestion.
Regarding your question below, as you have noticed that, Chnlove cooperates with the agencies that provide direct services to the ladies. Because of different situations and operations in each agency, some agencies may not provide service to the gentlemen directly, and they will not give their contact info to any gentleman before they know more about who he is, where he comes from, what he needs and what they can provide. Considering this situation, the agencies' contact info will not show directly in our site. Hope you can understand.
If you would like to obtain the agency's contact info, you may discuss with your lady directly, then she can talk to her translator and provide the info to you. Or, you may leave a message for the translator and ask for the details directly. Leastways, you may let us have the agency's ID, we will talk to the agency and ask them to provide you their contact info, one and only precondition is you have contacted the ladies from this agency before.
Still, we will forward your message to related department for further evaluation. Hopefully there will be some update in the near future. Thanks again for you kind suggestion.
Thanks again for your support to our service. Please feel free to let us know if you have additional question or concern. We'll be glad to help our sincere clients.
Have a great week!
Kind regards,
Flora Tsui
Chnlove Customer Care
From: Willy
To: Chnlove Customer Care
Date: 08 Feb, 2010 GMT
Thank you for your reply. The reason that I ask is that i would like to be assured that the agency that I may deal with does in fact have the required licence that permits them to introduce foreigners and Chinese nationals.
Unless you, as a company, can guarantee in writing that everyone of the agencies in this system does have the required licence then this would seem to be one way that we can be sure that we are dealing with a reputable company.
Unlike yourself I do live in mainland China and would like to visit various agencies to assure myself that everything in above board before approaching any further ladies.
Willy
From: Flora Tsui (Customer Care)
To: Willy
Date: 10 Feb, 2010 GMT
Dear Willy,
Ni hao! Thanks again for your message.
Firstly, I feel regretful for my late reply. As you may notice that, our Chinese New Year is coming, and the holiday starts from Feb 13 to Feb 19. Since many people will return to hometown and join family reunion, the holiday might start earlier or last longer for some people who are living far away from their hometown. Becuase of short-staffed, I have not been able to answer your question promptly. Hope you can understand.
About your concern of the agencies that Chnlove cooperates with, please note that we have detailed introduction at About Chnlove - Who Involves.
http://www.chnlove.com/help/about_agencies.php
Also, you may take a look at our Risks Disclosure Notice. In the first part, we have explained the relationship between Chnlove and the Service Providers, also known as the local agencies.
http://www.chnlove.com/help/disclosure.php
Hope the above info could be helpful. Please let us know if you have other question or concern, we will be glad to help you.
Have a lovely day and wish you a Happy Chinese New Year as well!
Kind regards,
Flora Tsui
Chnlove Customer Care
God Willy,that sucks...........especially the answer to your second question
Seems she did her utmost to almost totally avoid a direct answer,akin to some of our parliamentary sessions here.Really casts some serious doubts about the whole operation and the collusion between chnlove
and the agencies.I know most of us have those doubts already but now???
So I wonder how much EMF contact with the ladies qualifies one to receive the agencies address???
Does anyone know how many agencies there are operating with chnlove???.Maybe there are enough of us in contact with ladies from the different agencies to try and get one address each???just a thought
Even though they sent me the email of Guangzhou Daniel ,still dont know their address in Guangzhou.
jimmy
Jimmy,
I think everybody here hopes there is a happy ending to this! Keep your head up and keep moving forward! Wish u the best bro!
Jim
Thnx for the encouragement jim,I,m still waiting for a reply from Swallow,Allisons former translater,I guess its cos of the Chinese New Year........god,maybe I wont hear back for ages.........anyway,I'll post when I hear something back
jimmy
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that agency is located in the panyu district of Guangzhou which is
an interesting area to say the least.
you also would think that they would want a little more information about
the agencies in question and what problems were encountered because to
ask to get in contact with the agency is not to say hello but to discuss an
issue your having. its all b******t and i still think we should coordinate a time
and send them the same message. maybe 300 emails will get them thinking.????
the answer willy got was just one they thought would be good enough to make
him go away a happy camper
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that agency is located in the panyu district of Guangzhou which is
an interesting area to say the least.
you also would think that they would want a little more information about
the agencies in question and what problems were encountered because to
ask to get in contact with the agency is not to say hello but to discuss an
issue your having. its all b******t and i still think we should coordinate a time
and send them the same message. maybe 300 emails will get them thinking.????
the answer willy got was just one they thought would be good enough to make
him go away a happy camper
Right Ted,that might work
Yea,I saw they were in the Punyu District,But I guess thats a pretty big place.Whats so intrestin about there Ted?????,I;m curious to know
When you weigh it all up the whole thing with the agencies is really sus to say the least
WHY cant they just be open and transparent,save a lot of time and anguish for all concerned
cheers
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The Tian agency in Shanghai also operates in this way. I sent a poor rating on them after my meeting in December. Can't visit or call them. I would never consider a woman from there.
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that agency is located in the panyu district of Guangzhou which is
an interesting area to say the least.
you also would think that they would want a little more information about
the agencies in question and what problems were encountered because to
ask to get in contact with the agency is not to say hello but to discuss an
issue your having. its all b******t and i still think we should coordinate a time
and send them the same message. maybe 300 emails will get them thinking.????
the answer willy got was just one they thought would be good enough to make
him go away a happy camper
Perhaps 200 BAD RATINGS for THAT AGENCY will kill it or at least F**K them bad enough that it hurts? I think CHN will just give you Rhett Butler's famous " Frankly my deah, I don't giva Damn!" Of course they could open down the road under a new name, but at least we show them that we can screw them too.:icon_twisted: It might also scare off potential new schmucks who are thinking off writing their girls, but I think most guys don't even check the feedback ratings cept us here.
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when you come to china you will see a difference between
countryside and city people. so maybe a lot of the smaller
agencies in these smaller places would explain their attitude
in wanting to handle your issues or concerns
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Hi everyone,
Just getting back to you with an update on this thread
I had not heard back from swallow at the agency so i sent an email in chinese to the allison132@yahoo.cn address that chnlove customer care sent me in their reply the other day.That night(thursday)I had a reply back from swallow.Here it is,ok:
Hello Jimmy,
This is Swallow, and I am sorry that I did not reply you in time, because I just came back home from my workplace, and I come to the internet bar to reply your letter. Hehe, I hope you will have a happy day.
In fact, Allison and her son are ok, because Allison is so busy recently that she doesn’t want to continue the searching on Chnlove, and she wants to stop it and take a good rest, so that she deleted her profile on the Chnlove. She is always thinking of you, because she always told me that she doesn’t know what she should do, and she wants to meet you in person.
Now, I explain this to her, and she felt pity and regret for her wrong decision. I hope you can forgive her, and can write letter to her email address, it is allison132@yahoo.cn, or you also can add her yahoo messenger ID, it is also allison132@yahoo.cn. She said that maybe you can chat on line when both of you have free time. How do you think about this?
Hehe, here, I wish you and Allison can have a bright future life together, because Allison is really a good lady. Besides, our Chinese Spring Festival is coming in two days, so maybe Allison is busy with preparing for this celebration, so if she does not reply you in time, I hope you can understand her, ok? Anyway, wish you a Happy Chinese New Year and Valentine’s Day!!
Best wishes to you. I hope things are ok with you. Please take good care. Wait for your good news with Allison. ^_^
Yours sincerely,
Swallow
Well,the very good news is that on Friday night I receive an add request on ym but from a different address (see below).I am now talking to my lady on ym and have seen her on cam,We have been chatting each day since :icon_cheesygrin:.Its amazing how things happen,cos if she had not canceled her chnlove we would not be talking on cam and I would still be on the Emf merrygoround for who knows how long.
Seems that my email got through to her but its obvious now that the ID sent by chnlove and Swallow at the agency is her agency email(do you think guys??)it even uses her profile number on chnlove.And the funny thing is on reading swallow's letter that is her own personal qq email that chnlove sent me(do you think guys??),and not the agency???
Following is an extract of my lady and myself chatting online the other night,it was hard going at first cos her english is not so good,but I was so happy to talk that it didn't matter.She was so happy to see me and I her on cam.I sorta picked up that she was sick of chnlove and the agency as well but as you can see below had no way of getting her email to me or mine to her.I did not like to ask her too much about the agency or chnlove at this early stage,but the following emerged in conversation.Oh yes,I also have her phone number now and address as well :icon_biggrin:
jimmysilk1: we never exchange email till now
zhangxiaohui8778: sorry They will not let the exchange of e-mail
zhangxiaohui8778: My personal Chinese E-mail
jimmysilk1: I see
zhangxiaohui8778: Do not use Allison132 @yahoo.cn
jimmysilk1: ok
jimmysilk1: what is the Allison132@yahoo.cn
jimmysilk1: that is agency???
zhangxiaohui8778: yes yes
jimmysilk1: I see
zhangxiaohui8778: not to pay the money
zhangxiaohui8778: Do you understand
jimmysilk1: Yes I do
zhangxiaohui8778: good
Thanks for bearing with me on this and for all the bro's help and advice so far.Be good to know what everyone thinks about the above and all this thus far....
Seems to me to reinforce a lot of the things discussed on this forum about the activites of the agency's and chnlove,though I'm grateful to swallow for all her help .I'm thinking that there is a lot of pressure on the translaters by the agency to not give out personal emails,maybe they regularly monitor their translations or something like that?????
Also on the EMF rave on chnlove they say everyones EMF's are delivered "AS IS",,seems like total bs.
Well,I'll leave it here for now,be interesting to hear what yus all got to say on the above
cheers
jimmy
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Jimmy,
congrats on getting thru to your lady. sounds a little like she didnt like the method of
operation and quit the agency. which is good for you. best wishes in the further development
with your lady. sounds like she is also looking out for you and not wanting you to pay the
rediculous finders fee that they try and charge. take care
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you've got yourself a smart lady there. Pretty nice turn of events. Good luck Jimmy.
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Many thanks Ted,Neil...
Yes its early days,feels like a whole different ball game,talking in person
One day at a time,see how we go.....looking good though at this point after 9 months of chnlove
cheers
jimmy
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Many thanks Ted,Neil...
Yes its early days,feels like a whole different ball game,talking in person
One day at a time,see how we go.....looking good though at this point after 9 months of chnlove
cheers
jimmy
Great news Jimmy, wish you a great Valentine's with your love, a new beginning.... we are all rooting for you !
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jimmy,
Well done and now basically it's all sussed out ..lol!
If you add Yahoo.com.cn at the end of her messenger ID you will probably have her personal email as well ..haha!!
All the best to you....
David....
PS ...Everything was agency, except the request sent to your YM messenger from HER!! lol!!
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Well done jimmy and congrats for getting through the chnlove BS
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Thanks heaps everyone for your encouraging words,amazing its all happened on the eve of Chinese New Year and Valentines,must mean somethin,dont you think bros :icon_cheesygrin:
jimmy
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Well, I just read your thread, sounds like you have been through a lot. But seams like everything has worked out. Good luck bro.
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Jimmy,
Good start at the right time of year, and i might add that your lady is
very smart getting out of the agency and talking directly with you soon
hope it all works out the best for the both of you:icon_cheesygrin:
the journey has just begun:icon_biggrin: