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Title: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: UK Mark on May 16, 2009, 10:53:01 am
Well of course true love is priceless :heart: + :heart: = :D , but i thought maybe this would be a handy thread especially for newbies .
We all know our journey is going to be expensive so maybe we could help each other by prewarning others about the cost of things and maybe how to save a little cash
I'm going to keep a tally on things and post on this thread and see how the costs mount up as i prepare to see ' my girl ' and what happens after that , i hope it is of interest and benefit to any newbies reading this.

Costs to me so far

Chinalove EMFs - think im lucky here only spent about £30 , now my girl and me email each other and a friend translates for us :)

Flowers to China - there is already a post on here about different florist services , I sent a dozen roses to my girl , next day delivery £20

UK Visa to enter China £115 inc all fees

Return Flights from London to Guangzhou (August) £450

so £715 so far .. and theres going to be a lot more .. I'll keep you posted and let you know when i need a second job !!
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: victor-hills on May 16, 2009, 11:55:22 am
Hi mark good thinking batman sure will help out others here,that was a good price for your flights and in august too.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Arnold on May 16, 2009, 03:39:14 pm
Guy's , make sure you keep all the receipt's of what you have spend . So when the time comes , your Lady knows how much she owe's you . So , she can reimburse you fully .
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: UK Mark on May 16, 2009, 03:42:33 pm
heheh crazy !! .. :D
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Arnold on May 16, 2009, 04:15:15 pm
Hehe , that's ok Mark . It's not the first time being called Crazy .

Seriously though , looking back and adding my fourth Trip in August , it's been between $ 15,000 to $20,000 so far . Still .. I'm by myself in my lonely House .
 
So it's not your average Soul-mate finding venture , for sure .
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: UK Mark on May 16, 2009, 04:26:44 pm
i totally agree its not 'the norm' Im not minted but i can and will be able to afford to visit my girl quite often , i feel for anyone who falls in love and has to save long and hard to get back to his girl , but you can't put a price tag on love !
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Arnold on May 16, 2009, 04:51:05 pm
No you can't put a price on Love . It's only a shame , some of us have to go through so much more trouble to find it , while other's it almost comes to them with little problem's . Talking about , having to earn it , from some of our member's here . But then , who said the world is fair ? Some day though , i'm sure we all have our wonderful Lady/ Wife by our sides and it all work's out for the very best .
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Scottish_Rob on May 16, 2009, 05:17:36 pm
Do you know what guy's that's the reason I sort of decided to teach over there, because I know I would have to save for ever to return to her.  So far the cost has been
Air Fare                   £665.00      Return from Manchester UK to Qingdao (Tao)
Accom                     £170.00      10 Day's
EMF's (90 Each)        ???????
Passport                   £85.00
Visa (Not got yet)       ??????
Flowers (Twice)        £40.00
Earrings                    £35.00
Cost of Wedding      
inc Rings                   ??????
Presents for her
Translator &
 Mum & Dad               £78.50
Presents still to get      ??????

Spending Money          ??????

Total So Far              £1073.50 not including EMF's

But as they say how can you put a price on love.................And a New Life:)
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Jadams79 on May 16, 2009, 05:34:08 pm
Mmmm so far, my expendature.
$850 plane tickets,
$646 EMF,
$80 Valentines & Birthday,
$75 New years,
$43 Random Cholocate just because,
$62 Roses, pictures and Chocolatet just because again.
$240 on Visa
$130 of Passport,
$400 on hotels, reservations, train tickets, gifts for parents and older brother. Breakfast at each hotel for both of us where we will be staying.
$165 in silver for gifts I made for her ^_^
$35 for roses for mothers day, and a phone call from mom!!!!!! ^_^ :D
$120 for phone charges since we've been speaking on the phone.
And I aint got to China yet.  And planning on moving to China around new years.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: maxx on May 16, 2009, 07:55:24 pm
6 trips to China over 3 years
300 emf
8,ooo airfare wife and son last 2 times
1,200 visas me and my son
300 medical check
2,500 wedding party in China
400 consulate Guanzghou
1,000 gifts
2,400 hotel
1,800 lawyer
400 paperwork
4,000 walking cash.I don't pay for much anymore
1,000 adjust status
700 perminent green card.

24,000 give or take a couple of thousand.I would do it all again just for this kind of adventure.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: stuart barlow on May 16, 2009, 08:07:04 pm
Emf-----60quid(last of the big spenders).
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Vince G on May 17, 2009, 12:19:27 am
Emf's just for my lady Song = $ 1128.00
Flowers                             =     $40.00
CD/music & mailing            =     $10.00
Phone calls                         =    $15.00
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Rhonald on May 17, 2009, 01:05:29 am
Vince you must be up around 300 letters total for the both of you. I figure I spent around 1200 on emf's and I just passed 300 letters for the both of us. I only wrote to one girl.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Vince G on May 17, 2009, 08:11:40 am
I didn't really want to know But I wanted to see if my CCd had a full history and it did. So I took the totals of all the chnlove from the start, Sept. 9/07. I knew when I started writing my lady Aug. 22/08 so I got the total. In total I spent over $2500.00 in EMF's. Why I didn't want to know? I see it as could have used that money to go there in person? It's not a waste of money but a learning experience, and met many people and friends along the way.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Shane on May 17, 2009, 08:32:53 am
emf 156.00 not used many yet , im just getting going ^^
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Rhonald on May 17, 2009, 11:27:08 am
Thanks Vince, since many of us from this site have gained from your aquired knowledge.  Yes it is a mini fortune to find our diamonds in the rice stack.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Peter on May 17, 2009, 12:26:37 pm
Anyone more than me that is too afraid to start counting.... I don't want to know because it will make me scared..
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Paul Todd on May 17, 2009, 12:30:01 pm
EMF's  160 pounds.
Web cam 15 pounds
Best 175 quid I ever spent!:D
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: datom0 on May 18, 2009, 07:14:26 pm
Hi
Thats a great idea. :)
I plan to go to hangzhou in october and would welcome some idea of the overall costs.







Quote from: 'UK Mark' pid='3079' dateline='1242485581'

Well of course true love is priceless :heart: + :heart: = :D , but i thought maybe this would be a handy thread especially for newbies .
We all know our journey is going to be expensive so maybe we could help each other by prewarning others about the cost of things and maybe how to save a little cash
I'm going to keep a tally on things and post on this thread and see how the costs mount up as i prepare to see ' my girl ' and what happens after that , i hope it is of interest and benefit to any newbies reading this.

Costs to me so far

Chinalove EMFs - think im lucky here only spent about £30 , now my girl and me email each other and a friend translates for us :)

Flowers to China - there is already a post on here about different florist services , I sent a dozen roses to my girl , next day delivery £20

UK Visa to enter China £115 inc all fees

Return Flights from London to Guangzhou (August) £450

so £715 so far .. and theres going to be a lot more .. I'll keep you posted and let you know when i need a second job !!
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Brian Mc on July 20, 2009, 05:24:50 pm
Quote from: 'datom0' pid='3256' dateline='1242688466'

Hi
Thats a great idea. :)
I plan to go to hangzhou in october and would welcome some idea of the overall costs.







Quote from: 'UK Mark' pid='3079' dateline='1242485581'

Well of course true love is priceless :heart: + :heart: = :D , but i thought maybe this would be a handy thread especially for newbies .
We all know our journey is going to be expensive so maybe we could help each other by prewarning others about the cost of things and maybe how to save a little cash
I'm going to keep a tally on things and post on this thread and see how the costs mount up as i prepare to see ' my girl ' and what happens after that , i hope it is of interest and benefit to any newbies reading this.

Costs to me so far

Chinalove EMFs - think im lucky here only spent about £30 , now my girl and me email each other and a friend translates for us :)

Flowers to China - there is already a post on here about different florist services , I sent a dozen roses to my girl , next day delivery £20

UK Visa to enter China £115 inc all fees

Return Flights from London to Guangzhou (August) £450

so £715 so far .. and theres going to be a lot more .. I'll keep you posted and let you know when i need a second job !!



Ok so how about a hypothetical flipside to all this,  dating a local girl/woman.

lets say 2 dates a week one a dinner and movie one a night on the town.  
Dinner for two at a reasonable restaurant $80.00, plust the show with refreshments $40.00 total evening $120.00

Night on the town say dinner theatre followed by a nice dance club.
Dinner theatre tickets $100.00
Dance club a guess since I havent in years 60.00

total one week expense $360.00

Now obviously there are going to be times where dates are in home or walks or drives or other "freebie" so lets say an average of $500.00 per month.
 Now add in gifts for  birthday christmas valentines just because, etc,perhaps babysitting fees if either or both have kids, weekend camping trips/getaways etc and the costs spiral.

Now lets look at the positves of our new found way to do things.  We are dating some of the most beautiful faithfull caring women on the planet = priceless.
 We get to travel to an exotic destination to be with said most beautiful woman.
We can eventually email webcam telephone chat to our hearts content for minimum cost after initial set up.
Once married we find ourselves hitched to the most romantic sexy beautiful well organized keeper of our health and heart and soul, that most other people can only dream of.

Now the negatives of doing it the old way:
We get to deal with the western female attitude and way of doing things.
We get the entire previous lifes baggage to tote around.
She isnt necessarily concerned with her own health and heart and mind after marriage let alone yours.
The financial costs are gonna kill you come divorce time
Generally speaking and this totally depends on the age and mindset of herself romance sex beauty and frugality just caught the fast train outa your life.

So in summation we the few, the proud, the Brotherhood , have managed to let ourselves into quite possibly the best remaining years of our or anyone elses life.
We will hopefully all marry one of these stunningly beautiful angels from the  east and be pampered and catered to and forced to live healthy so we can live longer.
Possible the best sex we have ever had in our lives( just speculation depending on your past history).
And of course total and everlasting love honour respect and devotion for life from said angel.  
And what really does it cost us?  All they want from us is to be treated with love honour and respect, to provide a safe home  for the family and stable finances.
Personally I pick the Eastern Angel over the Western Harpy hands down and twice on Sunday.

Yea I know mr romantic again hehe but hey thats who I am.

Regards all

Brian Mc

PS just so you guys know I spent 20 years with my ex and most of the above is not true for her so your mileage may vary.  The only things missing from that marriage was the love and affection and at the end the sex, but that was just my life.   I am a very romantic guy and I cannot and will not live without love and affection both given and received in my life.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Hajo on July 20, 2009, 11:27:34 pm
My trip is going to be a cheap one I guess.

Paid €1000 for the airfare
Passport/visa around €300

Staying at my ladies home from day one. No big wedding, she only family she has left, are 2 elder sisters. We decided we will not need wedding-rings. We are going to spend honeymoon in Beijing (she lives in Urumqi). She paid for the plane tickets. Hotel will be between 170 and 200 RMB per night. She arranges the hotel. Beside that, there will be meals and some sightseeing.

She stayed in Beijing for last weekend and paid 169 RMB per night. She had almost everything in the room, TV, aircondition, big bed, bathroom, Internet. But no refridgerator. Such a hotelroom will be fine for me :icon_cheesygrin: So, all together maybe €800 - €1000 the Beijing trip.

She does not want me to spent to much money. I might have to ask what I may buy, hehe! And if everything goes well with her visa, there will be the costs for her airfare to Denmark, might be €800 - €1000.

Including EMF's I would say it will end up close to €4000! That might be the cheapest achieved so far :angel:  But she is a very special woman! :heart:
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: maxx on July 20, 2009, 11:40:27 pm
Good Job Hajo.Have a good safe trip.Beijing is a great place to Check out.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Sylvain D on July 21, 2009, 02:43:23 pm
OMG.

I didn't look really "more" at this thread before...
But I would say that love has no price.

For most of us, there is no way to compare, because :
- we're not all from the same country
- our incomes aren't the same, too

I know that I've sent flowers to a certain lady, twice, in less than 6 months. I've also offered some chocolates from the airport (Belgium) for her and her family, and a perfume too, but that's all.
I also paid the bills in restaurants, there, and taxi (three times), that's all.
I think anyway that, once there, we still can't compare our "way to show our love to our ladies" because there are too many things that can change between all our relationships.

I would also say that flowers, perfumes, chocolates... mean "nothing", or just a bit of love, but are most associated to "provisory" gifts. we also choose to offer it and to buy it but we're not forced to do it. So, that's a reason why I say we can't really compare for our different relationships :)

But flying to China twice, three times in a year, I think that better means the cost of love.

The "only problem", I would say, however, in love, is that there is never any limit to its cost. Because we never know when we will end buying anything, except when :
- it's over
- one of the lovers is gone
- the bank is on the "Red Alert" mode about you :D
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: MLM on July 21, 2009, 05:58:15 pm
My thought on this is that there is No Price to Great for the price of Love.
Good job Hojo, just remember treat her right or she can make life just as hard as it can be easy, Hehe.
Best wishes for you and your wife.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: David5o on July 22, 2009, 05:23:33 pm
My thought on this is that there is No Price to Great for the price of Love.



               Nice words, Great words even, ....Then that Bloody ''Reality'' checks in again!!



David.....
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: MLM on July 22, 2009, 05:56:54 pm
Yeah, I know but it is nice until then right, thats when the bills roll in and you realize you went over your budgit by a couple hundred $, Euros, or RMB. :icon_cheesygrin:




no wait that would be a couple thousand RMB

Oh and the words " No Price to Great " is the title of a book a friend wrote, its about thier time from meeting to her and her daughter coming to the States from China
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: David5o on July 22, 2009, 07:04:03 pm
Yeah!!  ......It's a real bummer when those bills start pouring in. hahaha!!
                 But once paid off, you can start all over again!!......


David.....
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Sylvain D on July 23, 2009, 09:26:44 am
Actually, i'm just saying myself that I will fly to Shanghai in a few weeks with approximatively 10 000 rmb for 2 weeks... because I did not save enough since Chongqing...
Well...
should I try to hold up a bank? :D
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Vince G on July 23, 2009, 12:56:23 pm
Sly just don't plan on robbing the SPM Banque De France. I'm doing that one soon. :icon_cheesygrin:
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Chong on July 25, 2009, 07:52:56 am
Just came back ... spent 56 days ... ( all figures Canadian )

$ 1,670 - airfare
$ 1,340 - Hotel ( $ 24 per night )
$    260 - gifts for home
$    700 - mostly food, I treated 90% of times ( $ 12 per day )
$    100 - train ticket, bus ticket, taxis
$    150 - misc

If I ate alone, I could survive on $ 3-5 per day.
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Jimmy on July 25, 2009, 03:00:27 pm
Quote from: 'Arnold' pid='3099' dateline='1242502754'

Guy's , make sure you keep all the receipt's of what you have spend . So when the time comes , your Lady knows how much she owe's you . So , she can reimburse you fully .


Oh Man I lost my receipt for the $10 necklace I sent now I surely dont know what I am going to do.
I told my girl to get another job that it was all adding up..hehe
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Arnold on July 25, 2009, 03:07:07 pm
Jim , in reality ... all that (what she owe's me ) went all out the window , the first time I looked into her Eyes as she stood right in front of me . As my Heart melted so did all the receipt's with it . Hehe
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: Agarn on July 26, 2009, 03:44:01 am
Well i`ve had the cost but not the love [yet]
racking up the costs
3 trips and internal flights,  Harbin in the frozen north down to Sanya in the tropical south.
trip 1,  pre chnlove, nice lady but not really suited,excess bagage on gifts
trip 2, pre chnlove, con woman, total scammer,  many gifts
trip 3, chnlove, pre chn info, liar, real pig, yep more gifts, this time gave to friends and students i met, kept one $60 handbag make up kit.

I will not begin to calculate the costs so far, no point, but I will say apart from the dissapointment in the ladies I have met it has been a blast, i have visited beautiful places in an amazing country, met truely interesting people and made good friends who i am in contact with now.
Still have the faith and will visit a lady in Changsha in september, will take the make up kit, haha, and you guessed it, more gifts.

My friends think Im crazy, family just shake their heads, but here i seem quite normal, hmmmmmmmmmmm!
Title: RE: Calculating the Cost of 'True Love'
Post by: MLM on July 26, 2009, 08:32:00 am
Agarn, at least you have the right outlook for all this, good luck and best wishes brother :icon_cheesygrin: