China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => The Campfire => Topic started by: Scottish_Rob on May 08, 2010, 02:06:16 pm
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Hi mods.
I have a question that maybe could be answered....
As you all know I am in no way against this site, but I have only just noticed (apart from Ronan), there seems to be a North American influence in mods.
Now that the site is 'up and running smoothly' and we have enough core members. Would it not be a 'fairer' decision for other continemnts to have representation within the formum Moderators.
Don't get me wrong, I am in no way putting myself forward for any position, but maybe now after a year, we need someone who is probably more in touch with the everyday members..
Maybe one from the Uk and one from Australia and a European
Just an idea.
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I wonder if we do not have other continents presented because of lack of volunteers? I hazard a guess that your suggestion is a good one as there are slightly different cultural differences from each continent. But it is just not that simple, after all on large contients there are still different biases between regions and countries and also, what about age difference. I do not think we have enough members here to have a fair distribution of mods to cater to the vast differences. But then I do agree that an extra European or Down under Mod would be appreciated by our hard working mods.
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Speaking for myself,
The MODs select a candidate based on a majority voting system. Names are tossed into the hat and we debate. Many names mentioned in the past weren't North American. We select base on a person's 'perceive' character, not his country of origin.
MOD duties are to edit controversial postings; I don't see how a person's nationality has anything to do with it. Since we're not a political site, any bias postings regarding American and British viewpoints [ or any other ] have been deleted previously ... before a war broke out.
There's a section on "Nationality Requirements" ... that's a perfect section for each member/country to have their expertise viewpoint on matters that they know about. If you want to dominate the postings on the European section ... go for it.
but maybe now after a year, we need someone who is probably more in touch with the everyday members..
What do you mean ???????
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Look I do not want to be a mod as it will not be conducive to my new business. And as you know I am not one to court controversy :angel: BUT.
just an argument about the voting system. A Mod brought it up so I guess it will be ok to go on in that vein.
So who Votes - i suspect just the mods as I have never seen a vote on here open to all.
I will get a little political here. If the world is set for one president and the only voters who vote are in the USA then who will win, the American President of course regardless of whether any other countries presidents are more suited or not.
Willy
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As I see it , Martin is the creator of this Forum and of the Facebook Forum . Him , Irish , Maxx , Chong , Vince & Nik ( who gave it up ) Jim and myself go way back to the Start of it all . Now there was never even the slightest breeze of anybody unhappy about where any of the Mods were from .
As for me , heck if anybody wants my Position as a Mod and thinks he can do better .. I would not wait one minute to trade . I don't need this , just because I'm from America and now concidered one to many from that place .
As the Voting goes , Ted received the most Votes .. yes from Mods only to be one of us . I'm sure Martin or any Mods see no point in letting this whole Forum Vote on such issue's . Wouldn't this have to include all new Member's then ? With little experience of this Forum at all . Or are we going to pick only certain People and not other's . Very nice indeed . Would not be part of this choosing prosses for sure .
Well my two cent's .
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As the Voting goes , Ted received the most Votes .. yes from Mods only to be one of us . I'm sure Martin or any Mods see no point in letting this whole Forum Vote on such issue's . Wouldn't this have to include all new Member's then ? With little experience of this Forum at all . Or are we going to pick only certain People and not other's .
Exactly Arnold. Point well mentioned.
None of you who participate in the Forum(s) on the official ChnLove or Cherry Blossoms { or any other } can become a MOD there. That's why this Forum was created. It's the most liberal of all. If a member proves himself/herself with good character & constructive postings, he/she will get consideration over time. The current MODs have been there from almost Day One. Are we our own tight group ? ... Yes. Do we welcome new people into the group ? ... Yes.
I suggest that any member who feels that they would like to become a MOD ... simply PM Martin. When the time comes to select another MOD, their name(s) will be thrown into the mix for consideration.
If the world is set for one president and the only voters who vote are in the USA then who will win, the American President of course regardless of whether any other countries presidents are more suited or not.
LOL ... Isn't that how it works here in C _ _ _ _ ? The politburo selects a new leader and the masses don't have a vote. Every country has voting issues that the masses are not happy with. Please Maxx ... don't delete this post, I'm having a great laugh.
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The system of voting that we presently have is about the fairest we could have on this forum. If the mods were to open up the nominating and voting process to the whole forum there would be total chaos in my opinion.
I think moving forward that a good consideration for the mods is to consider nationality. We all need to realize that all will not be satisfied though. If the next mod comes from GB then maybe the French, Australians, Danish, Germans, and if I missed your nationality sorry, could be offended.
In my opinion what is happening here is that the site has hit a threshold of active members. Many of us came here about 1 year ago. The dynamic of this site has changed somewhat. Now the management system needs to adapt to the size of the site for future growth. One good thing I see is that mods are now covering specific categories. Great idea. I cannot imagine how hard and repetitive it would be or each mod to look at every new post and consider action.
I think it is a good idea to have this thread for discussion because it can give the mods a glympse into what many of the members are thinking.
Just my 1/2 cent worth of wisdom. :s
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One if by land, two if by sea, the british are coming, the british are coming....:icon_cheesygrin:
I don't care where your from mod's, frankly I could care less, your
all doing a great job. Like my dad used to say, if its working - don't
fix it. :icon_cheesygrin:
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Don all will be OK as long as the mods do not select one saying he is a former member of the knights that say "ni." :icon_cheesygrin:
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If you want to get technical, Arnold is German (European) so there you have the Euro Mod.
btw Rocky, staying in technical mode... He never yelled "The British are coming". At that date and time they were all British.
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The system of voting that we presently have is about the fairest we could have on this forum. If the mods were to open up the nominating and voting process to the whole forum there would be total chaos in my opinion.
I think moving forward that a good consideration for the mods is to consider nationality. We all need to realize that all will not be satisfied though. If the next mod comes from GB then maybe the French, Australians, Danish, Germans, and if I missed your nationality sorry, could be offended.
In my opinion what is happening here is that the site has hit a threshold of active members. Many of us came here about 1 year ago. The dynamic of this site has changed somewhat. Now the management system needs to adapt to the size of the site for future growth. One good thing I see is that mods are now covering specific categories. Great idea. I cannot imagine how hard and repetitive it would be or each mod to look at every new post and consider action.
I think it is a good idea to have this thread for discussion because it can give the mods a glympse into what many of the members are thinking.
Just my 1/2 cent worth of wisdom. :s
Thanks Shaun ... That's one of your best post to date.
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I will get a little political here. If the world is set for one president and the only voters who vote are in the USA then who will win, the American President of course regardless of whether any other countries presidents are more suited or not.
Willy
Well let me see.....:huh: In California only Americans can vote for a Governor right? So where is that guy from?
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One thing that should be said here, is that the forum is rarely informed when there are Mod changes. There seems to have been quite a few changes over the last month or so, like Ed W, Vince G, Nik Ted, Chong, Jim B etc But the only time i've seen anything mentioning any change was with Ted.
I really think it is just a common courtesy, to inform the membership whenever there is a Mod change on the Forum in future!! ....So can we have a run down, who has replaced who so everyone is up to date on the current status of the Forum Mods please....
David...
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Guys,
My two cents (now worth 1.85 cents I guess)...
Personally, I only have two requests for any new mods moving forward...
1) I'd like to see some mods from more diverse time zones... that way if something needs to be dealt with, it's more likely a mod will catch it... I don't think it's fair to focus (boo) on just a few people who are mostly concentrated within a certain area. They have lives outside of this forum as well...
2) That they're one of the people who tends to be more active in the forums. Ted's a great example of this... it makes the mods much more visible and approachable.
3) No knights that say Ni! :icon_cheesygrin:
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Chong all I was meaning was using someone who talks to a lot of members everyday.
Arnold. no one is asking you to stand down.
All I was trying to say was 2 things,
(1) Must focus hit the nail on the head when he mentioned 'Diverse' timezones.
(a) It would give other mods free time not having to sit up during there daytime/our nighttime
(b) It would make the Mods seem approachable, as he also mentioned.
(2) The reason is, that sense of humour is different by most continents, what some Mods may find insulting or humourless, could be construed on a lighter note by Europeans.
Lets take a look at (for example) the offending post/picture by david5o, that was deleted. I am sure that this formun is male dominated. So we as members can expect to see some sort of pictures like the one posted. I never saw it or commented on the said picture when it was posted, but I did see it, and thought it was very funny. I. am almost sure our Chinese girlfriend/Fiances/Wifes would have also seem the humour in it, because after all we are all built the same way, and they do have a sense of humour.
So please guys, don't think I'm trying to cause internal trouble I'm not. The forum is open to asking questions and suggestions. There is one other point I would like to say, and I think it was Chong that pointed this out. It was mentioned that the mods are picked because of their postings and such. If this is true, why was Paul Todd not invited as a Mod. His contribution is and was immense, and was probably more valuable than a couple (no names given) of people who are currently in that position...
And I think also that David5o is also right, I too believe we should be told/informed of Mod changes
This is not a war zone...it was a question and suggestion...
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Point #1 We are covered in diverse time zones. We have a 2 mods in China, which is 12 hours ahead of my time zone.
Point #2 We have a 2 mods in China. One mod who is of German descent. One mod who has extensive experience in South East Asia (Not just China). One who is married to a Chinese woman, and living with her (Actually we have two of those).
Point #3 Geographic location has never and will never factor in to how a mod is chosen.
Point #4 When picking a mod, usually I come up with the names of members I think would be good in this position. I throw the names to the mods and they debate it and vote on it. The nominated potential mods are not aware they have been nominated. In the last round, I had nominated a British member, and a member from Australia.
Point #5 This topic strikes me as being racists to a degree, because I have to defend why there are no mods from Europe.
Point #6 It was suggested we should have a mod from the UK, and one from Europe. Are they both not on the same continent?
Point #7 In the past I have informed you of mod changes. I didn't do it this time. Obviously it was not necessary in the end, because you have all seen there was a change. So really, what is the problem? If you see something that I am not, please tell me, because I do not see the issue here. Changes were made...you see it...sorry I didn't tell you before...but you obviously see it...so the problem is what?
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Rob I have thrown Paul Todds name into the hat.On the last two mod replacment.But since Paul Todd hasn't ben on the forum in months.So I always get out voted.I did suggest a Aussie on the last go around.But the member we did choose.Is allot further along.In his relationship.So it was decided to go that route.
In time I'm sure there will be another mod opening.And at that time the mods will get together again.And throw different names in the hat.I will throw the Aussie name in there again and a couple of other names and we will see what happens.
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So really, what is the problem? If you see something that I am not, please tell me, because I do not see the issue here. Changes were made...you see it...sorry I didn't tell you before...but you obviously see it...so the problem is what?
Come on guys cut Martin some slack - after all he is the God Father of this site.
Does that mean then Martin, that by default your wife is now our God mother? Well wish her well on Mother's day from all of us here - HAPPY Mother's Day God Mother Zhifang :heart:
And Happy Mothers day to all our members mothers on this day. To that lady that burped us into life screaming and kicking.
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Martin, don't get me wrong. I like the mods, but when I suggested time zone, I was thinking someone maybe 6 hours ahead or so. That takes pressure off of some of the other guys. I know everyone has a life (or some semblance of one). So splitting the timezones a bit more than one or the other doesn't hurt... Nationality is meaningless to me. It could be Bob Smith (American/Canadian/whatever) living in Spain... just want to make sure that everyone gets some free time.
As for being racist because there's no-one here from Europe, technically I don't think that's true. Although Ronen's account isn't a moderator account, isn't he's the tech guru running behind the scenes...I'm sure if he needs moderator access to deal with something, he can give it to himself at least temporarily...We just don't see him posting as often for some reason...
Regarding David5o's picture that got deleted, I haven't seen it, don't really care. He's posted lots of other jokes that are funny enough. Rob is right that humour is a cultural thing... but if it's within reason and taste (someone who shows me a picture of a decapitated body and says that's funny needs an adjustment), I don't see why it's such a concern.
And finally, guys, before you reply, sit back, have a sip of joe (or tea or pop or whatever) and give it at least 30 seconds before you say something. I perceive the tone here by everyone is getting a little tense.
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Chong all I was meaning was using someone who talks to a lot of members everyday.
Doesn't mean that that person would make a good MOD. Total # of postings is not a factor to be a MOD ?
Lets take a look at (for example) the offending post/picture by david5o, that was deleted. I am sure that this formun is male dominated. So we as members can expect to see some sort of pictures like the one posted. I never saw it or commented on the said picture when it was posted, but I did see it, and thought it was very funny.
David5o post almost everyday on that thread. This was the first time I deleted something [ a 1/2 nudie pic showing large hanging breasts ] from him on that thread ... with a personal PM explanation to him. Is it really important to have a knot in your underwear(s) over this ???
I. am almost sure our Chinese girlfriend/Fiances/Wifes would have also seem the humour in it, because after all we are all built the same way, and they do have a sense of humour.
You're ASSUMING ! ... Another member posted that he would need to sit with a milkcan underneath her breasts. Female members don't need to read tasteless postings like that. It's not even funny.
So please guys, don't think I'm trying to cause internal trouble I'm not. The forum is open to asking questions and suggestions.
This is not a war zone...it was a question and suggestion...
I understand. I'm just replying to your concerns.
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i am wondering is all this about who is mod now and maybe a personal disliking of
2 people who are mods that has even brought this thread up?? or is it about the deletions
of a few posts that werent deemed appropriate that has gotten some people in an uproar.
if there is a problem with thinking someone shouldnt be a mod then as an adult state your concerns
in a thread and let the consensus take a look at it
then the mods can decide if a change is needed and make that change.
i think the bottom line is that maybe something wasnt said to your liking and now
there is an ax to grind
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Ted, don't worry little buddy. We still love you, no matter what kind of shirt you wear...:icon_cheesygrin:
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and my lady freind from Guangzhou just came back from Reno nevada
and bought me 8 new shirts from walmart pretty jazzy looking lol!!!
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From my end, it doesn't matter who is moderator as long as their fair and level headed. I have no disliking for most of the members here...some of them (members) I have some concerns about, but that's for me to work through.
Just thought I would comment because the topic came up.
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I will get a little political here. If the world is set for one president and the only voters who vote are in the USA then who will win, the American President of course regardless of whether any other countries presidents are more suited or not.
Willy
Well let me see.....:huh: In California only Americans can vote for a Governor right? So where is that guy from?
But as I understand it he is one film star Governor of Califirnia that cannot be elected as President.
Now this forum is becoming active - Bit like 'Desperate Housewives' no sorry this forum is more interesting.
When I was a youngster growing up in England we used to have major battles at our more popular seaside between 'Mods' and 'Rockers' (teenage groups) I think it is a major concern with some of of Anglo heritage members who are still trying to decide whether they are mods or rockers. The film Quadrophenia was based on this.
I have no problem in say that maybe I am just off my rocker.
Willy
PS How long has Hawaii been a state of the USA. No I am not talking about the major influence on a certain President. I am refering to a more major issue like 'Those Shirts"
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Willy, you and Ted and Shaun are making those shirts famous agian. Soon all of China will be wearing them as the latest fad, Then
Asia, finally THE WORLD.....:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
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Do not bring me into that exclusive 'Shirt' community. Have you ever seen a photo of me in a 'flower' shirt. NEVER you have and never you will. LOL LOL
And how can the Chinese wear them - oh I know - judging by the size they come in they could provide living accomodation for the whole family. Plus Grandma and grandpa - and of course a few visiting cousins.
The time you see me wearing one you will also be the time when I am wondering around aimlessly say 'Book em Dano' .
Well I am sure Rob does not mind us highjacking this thread as I am sure it was originally started in a half jocular manner.
Willy
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But as I understand it he is one film star Governor of Califirnia that cannot be elected as President.
Now this forum is becoming active - Bit like 'Desperate Housewives' no sorry this forum is more interesting.
When I was a youngster growing up in England we used to have major battles at our more popular seaside between 'Mods' and 'Rockers' (teenage groups) I think it is a major concern with some of of Anglo heritage members who are still trying to decide whether they are mods or rockers. The film Quadrophenia was based on this.
I have no problem in say that maybe I am just off my rocker.
Willy
You are absolutly right Willy on both accounts: Mr Gobernor not being able to become the Prez and that this form is more interesting. :icon_biggrin:
I have admired your many witty comments and I was just trying to bring to :idea: that blanket statements are sometimes issued that might not be totally right. After all you might say that one & one is two but I could point out that no one & one is 11.
And yes I would have pegged you as a rocker. :blush:
I still have hopes that on my next visit I might make a trip to see either you or Ted being that both cities are near Shenzhen . Have Chinese wife - will Travel
Note to self:
1)if visiting Ted - bring jerky
2) if visiting Willy - bring loud shirt
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Willy, your wife is secretly going to buy a flowered shirt for you.. she will adorn your body with it and send us the picture, don't
sleep tonight...lol lol
And speaking of presidents who were actors, yes they do get elected....ever heard of Ronald Regan (the cowboy)...
There is an old saying: only regan can go to china. It's because he was the first.
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Rocky Nixon went to China along time before Regan did.
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And speaking of presidents who were actors, yes they do get elected....ever heard of Ronald Regan (the cowboy)...
Heard of Ronald Regan the president who could not remember if he was still acting or not when running the world!!!
Willy
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Willy yes on more then one occasion.That is what made him such agreat president.
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Willy yes on more then one occasion.That is what made him such agreat president.
Not getting Political but my favourite of all was Bill Clinton.
Away from the public eye he was always a nice pleasant man who always had time of the day for a few words.
Willy
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Not trying to be rude here, but this has veered way off topic
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Not trying to be rude here, but this has veered way off topic
Don't blame me blame Maxx he gave the last reply:angel::angel:
Just remind me what was your topic Rob? Was it something to do with mods?
Willy
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hehe you guys are mad....And thanks for your contribution
Willy I dont mind about the thread being hijacked mate.
The original posting was done, not for racist reason, but because I noticed about the majority of Americans. And Im sorry if anyone took offence it was not meant that way.
I did not look and think Im gonna start trouble here, I looked and thought, you know what, sometimes those 'Yanks' just dont get our humour.
When I mentioned about 2 mods, this is not a personal attack, I just felt that Paul Tod's contribution was more informed. There are things that happen behind the scenes that 'us' minnions dont know about, as maxx mentioned. And you mods do a great job.
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You did not start it for racist reasons!!! I thought that you started it as a platform for us to enjoy ourselves. I did not realise that it was intended as a serious thread.:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin: What ever serious came came out of Scotland, Other than Gordon Brown and maybe Sean Connery of course, and maybe Queen Victorias gamekeeper, and Rob Roy McGregor and then there were the clans, Mc Martins from Ayrshire or was that Hairshear! Then of course rocky's crossing point 'The Bridge of Don, Then we must not forget the two mega rich brothers Mac and Mac, no as there are two it must be Macs or is it Maxx amillion dollars.
Oh well there is always the lovable Scottish_Rob, the Brigand of Barrow or the Laird of the the Lakes to give him his full title.
Well he is only lovable as long as his permission to hijack his thread lasts. :angel:
Anyone else have any nominations of members to be in Scottish Clans?
Willy
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nixon was the start of the opening up of china 1972
Willy----- are you refering to my size????
Rhonald--- i will take both (jerky,shirt) Willy just needs a chunk of coal
and as far as the shirts go i guess no more posting of pics here since the
shirts seem to bother everyone of the girly men here who have a problem
with their manhood lol!!!!!!
and if the shirts are bad for you guys i guess the pics in the boxer shorts
will be out of the question????
and back on topic--- the mods here do well and i am excluding myself
its just one of lifes injustices----------------
1--- everything doesnt go your way
2--- cant pick your own relatives
i think we beat this horse dead everyone was heard or the ones that had an
issue and now lets get on track and post some good topics on whats happening
in China and with any people going thru immigration their new developments
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We have all had fun on this one. However, the thought of Willy in Boxers...OMG
If you do that, next thing you know, every one would be posting
pic's of themselves posing in speedo's.
And this used to be such a religious forum...hhmmm...LOL
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Chong,
CHONG POSTED... Lets take a look at (for example) the offending post/picture by david5o, that was deleted. I am sure that this forum is male dominated. So we as members can expect to see some sort of pictures like the one posted. I never saw it or commented on the said picture when it was posted, but I did see it, and thought it was very funny.
David5o post almost everyday on that thread. This was the first time I deleted something [ a 1/2 nudie pic showing large hanging breasts ] from him on that thread ... with a personal PM explanation to him. Is it really important to have a knot in your underwear(s) over this ???
Why are you and the other Mods (if in agreement) Worried about non-registered Chinese ladies coming to this site being offended or not?? ....They are not members, and therefore beyond your and anybody elses responsibility!!!
This is one of the reasons why Bros here should not tell there ladies to come visiting. When i wrote/posted about my concerns regarding these ladies visiting this Forum, i didn't foresee that Mods were going to start deleting posts, based solely on Chinese lady readers being offended!!!! So now we have another reason why Bros should not invite there ladies to this site....
This is a ''Male'' Forum and any lady, Chinese or otherwise, and registered or otherwise, that visits this site has to accept that fact!!! My post was in the ''Just For a Laugh'' thread which means, a ''humorous content'', and not to be taken seriously. Any male reading the deleted post would of had a chuckle to himself, and forgot about it. Another point is, ...contrary to what you say above, i've posted far more explicit photo's of women in the same thread, none to my knowledge have been deleted in the past and certainly not for the reason you have given!!!
Personally, i have no thoughts on preference for who becomes a Mod, only that they should be fair, open minded, and have enough life experience/commonsense to know if something that has been written was intended to be flaming, offencive, racist, .....or Not!!!
I do know however from past personal experience, that being a Mod on a Forum can be a time consuming task, and not for everyone, ....not by any stretch of the imagination!!!
On a final note, i want to reiterate that this Forum, is for ''MEN'' Seeking Chinese brides and NOT for passing Chinese ladies, (girlfriends, fiance's, wifes etc) I think Everyone here should remember that ...Members and Mods....
David.....
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you know i personally agree with this as to why people have had or did invite there ladies here is beyond me.
there is nothing wrong with guys talking about what they are encountering and giving advice good or bad to
others and if your wife or girlfreind needs to see everything you do then that is just ludicrous. BUT and i say BUT
IT HAS HAPPENED and there is nothing we can do about that now. i saw the picture and really didnt think it was
funny nor did i think it needed to be here but that is my opinion. i dont think nudity needs to be here whether in
humor or just as is. and i think that was the reason for the deletion of the pic.
as far as the women here if what you post is not in any way to hurt anyone then why worry what she sees???
they are here and will be so lets quit beating this dead horse to death about the women being on the site just
post as before they were as it wasnt to hurt anyone and sometimes was meant to get the light on
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Ted,
You have completely missed the point... Those guy's are NOT going to post as they did before if they know whatever they write is going to be seen by there girlfriends, ladies, or whatever!!!! If your thinking it will all simply go back to as it was, ....your very much mistaken!!!
You don't have to like or dislike the jokes, and if your prudish to the point of not liking to see any form of nudity in life, then as you say that's just your opinion. To most men, ...you just take it or leave it. As i said above, most guys will have forgotten all about it in the time it took to change threads. There was absolutly nothing in that post to cause offense to anyone!!!
...What we (the Mods) shouldn't be doing, is pandering to these ladies visiting this site as in guest guise, or to the one or two Registered members here ''Assuming'' rightly or wrongly that they may or might be offended!!!!
David......
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David you have very valid points. Although of a different age group, I was surprised when I found out that the Boy Scouts became "The Scouts" open to both girls and boys. It did a dis-service to young maturing boys as I believe both boys and adult men need a private space time to time, to just shoot the breeze without worries of what the fairer sex will think. Well that is kind of what this form feels like - our own social club.
After all, women have their own idiosyncrasies; they travel in packs to the water closet, so why can't we have our own space away from prying eyes? Maybe we are still just suffering from bad childhood memories cringing when little Miss Caught-our-fancy turned up her nose to our antics :s
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On the MOD Squad issue:
As a group we tend to vote in, or promote, or select those who are similar in looks, thoughts, and actions as those already in control. To be quite honest, I did not even know or notice the changes in MOD duties, until this thread appeared. So my observations skills are a bit lacking. Don’t tell my patients as I think they expect more from their nurse.
My issue is that this forum has done its best to become vanilla ice cream. It is trying to become everything to everybody on every issue. Diverse opinions are met with quick and strong response and the ban threat is always put out there. I chose to join this forum and discussion because it was and still is the best I have found that deals with the issue of dating, marrying, and life with a Chinese wife.
While I did not and do not agree with the majority of China Mike’s comments, and those most recent comments from Brett, I do think it is necessary to have discussion and different views on the subjects. I am not easily swayed in my opinion and I am certainly not offended when someone puts forth an idea or comment that is way out the mainstream thinking, or different than my own.
While vanilla ice cream is good, it tends to get old and stale if that is all that is served. I for one would like more variety in the conversations and see if we can again get this forum rocking with a variety of ideas. Not that it is not good to hear the color of Ted’s shirts, but really, is that the basis of this forum now?
I am very thankful for those who put forth the effort to put this forum together and keep in going. As a Monday morning quarterback, it is easy to pick and complain, and that is not my intent. I believe that I was very successful with XiuRu because of what I learned and chose not to learn from this post. I hope that we can move forward together to a new level and keep the conversations real and relevant.
Buzz
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Martin,
Just a couple of points on your reply to Rob,
As i've stated, i have no problem with whoever is chosen and agreed to be a Mod here. But as stated in point #2, you cannot say that those Mods of German decent are European. Not when they have obviously spent the vast majority of there lives living in North America, ....They are no longer German now, and will have little to no knowledge of thinking as a European would. They are now ''American''... I'm sure if you ask David E if he considered himself Welsh or Australian, he would have to say I'm an Aussie!!!
As for notification of any Mod changes, ...Now that is just a common courtesy to the membership of any privately run Forum, and is conducted so, by virtually every privately run Forum that i have experience of and probably most of the others too . Why would you think it's up to the members to contact you when they see a change, when a simple posting from you will inform all?? We can see who are the current Mods, but who has replaced who??
It's customary to thank the outgoing Mod on his contributions to the Forum, and welcoming the incoming Mod. Again, it's just a common courtesy to all....
Anyway you asked, so i thought it appropriate to explain.....
David
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Another point is, ...contrary to what you say above, i've posted far more explicit photo's of women in the same thread, none to my knowledge have been deleted in the past and certainly not for the reason you have given!!!
I only recently came back as a MOD and was assigned this section. Just refer to those pics on which post and I'll delete them. :icon_cool: Pretty soon, everybody will start posting their favorite large breast pics. I gave you my reason, heck, I even complimented you on your potato sack joke. I thought it was very funny. You don't like my deletions, PM Maxx. He's the MOD ombudsman for you members.
On the subject of female members, our group as a whole agree to invite them in as readers. As a courtesy, let's keep this site clean. Give us a f - - - ing break, you guy have never seen large breast before ??? Go buy a dirty rag. IMHO, I felt the pic need to be deleted. It's done, get over it. As I stated, is it really that important ? Maybe your issue is not the pic being deleted but that it was part of your post that was deleted.
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Chong....
Who agreed to invite ladies, i was most certainly not approached and i've seen no consenus either??
This is a typical reaction, when you don't like what anyones posted!!! Why would i tell you the post numbers for you to go delete them??
Start thinking about the Male Members here, and ''NOT'' those that visit annonomously under the guise of Guest!!!!
Anyone, including yourself that took offence at the said post, really does need a reality check. Remember that the vast majority of the membership here are ''Mature Adults'', not children that need guidance in morals....
It was a joke Chong, .....A Joke!!! The guys here would have forgoten about that joke in 2 seconds flat, don't try and turn it into something it wasn't, and especially in the name of these anonomous ladies, who eventually will do this Forum more harm than good, ....and you can take that to the bank!!!
As for you additional last comment, ...i'm not that shallow minded Chong. You are as usual, not seeing the point that is being made, and i can't make it any clearer for you either. What i've been talking about here is the ''Reason used'' to delete the joke....
David.....
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Ok, calm down guy's. First Chong: I for one have not seen that picture, and if I did (probably) I forgot what the heck it
was about, but coming from David50, it had to be funny. He is the funnyman and I really enjoy reading and looking at
his jokes. Guy's got a hell of a sense of humor. :icon_cheesygrin:
David, your the forum funny man. You have a warped sense of humor and I for one love it, keep it coming. Your posts
always make me smile, and cheer me up. I will have to pm you one your going to love, but don't post it on here.
Keep in mind that I for one don't mind women on here at all, but they have to realize this is a MEN'S forum and no sniveling. No
matter what is said or shown. We are animals here (beats on chest) and I love this forum. We have a good time making manly
jokes with each other and enjoy it. Yes we do discuss marrage and all other aspects of getting the girl and paperwork, but there
is no reason we can't have fun doing it. If we get off thread, we get back on a page later. We kind of police ourselves. If we stayed
serious, everyone would go somewhere else for fun, because it would be boring as hell. Oh, you could get vital information and
help here, but it would still be boring.
Personally, I love it here and check in several times a day, just to see what's up with the brothers. Sometimes I will leave a
comment (lots haha) but sometimes I just check in to see what's up and log off agian. I have gained a lot of friends since
signing on here that are funny and wise and I have learned a lot of things. So I say THANK YOU to everyone. You all make
my old age enjoyable.
So sit back, have a cold beer and relax, and keep an open mind.
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I did not look and think Im gonna start trouble here, I looked and thought, you know what, sometimes those 'Yanks' just dont get our humour.
I agree we do not always get your humor. I mean if you would speak proper English maybe we would. :icon_cheesygrin:
I do like most British humor. Two of my favorite TV shows are Keeping up Appearances and The Vicar of Dibley.
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Who agreed to invite ladies, i was most certainly not approached and i've seen no consenus either??
David.....
That's a good question, and to be honest, I don't remember how this came about. I do remember back on facebook that we had a discussion there about having women join us, and we decided to not have our women over, for exactly these reasons.
To be honest, I can not remember when this rule changed here, or if it actually was discussed. I think it just happened. And I am equally as guilty, as my wife is also a member here.
So now that the women are here, what shall we do about this? I am not going to discuss Chong's decision to erase a post because of its nature. I will defend Chong's decision. But what I would like to discuss here, is what do we do in the future about it? Do we say that this is a guys forum, and that women are welcome, but that there is content they might find offensive? I am looking for direction here, on this particular issue. Obviously, we know that there will be times that having a lady reading this forum can be dangerous. Look at what happened to Scottish Rob. So where do we go from here?
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Martin,
If you remember it was Paul Todd's wife who first got on the site and made comments. Then a few others.
I agree with some of the things that have been said. For a while I was sweating bullets thinking about Peggy joining this site. I thought that was the thing we were suppose to do. It was a relief when I was told that I should not do it. Peggy will ask occasionally about it but never asks to be a part of it. I will not offer.
There needs to be a place for us men. Women who venture onto this site need to know this is a site for men and if they do not like what they see or read they need to leave post haste. Chen Yan is the only woman who has stayed on this site any length of time and I welcome her to continue. She gives us and insight we need. I think she also knows this is a mens site and that she will see things she may not agree with. She doesn't comment about those. I think everyone treats her with the respect she deserves.
The picture? I am not for it but I would not delete it either. If I saw it, and maybe even linger there a while, I would dismiss it and move on. Chong you may have over reacted and that is OK. You did what you thought was the right thing to do. David you know not everyone of you will see eye to eye. (Can't we all just get along?)
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i guess all we can do is keep it as status quo nothing we can do now except ban them and that wouldnt
be the right thing to do either.
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hehe maybe you should ban me for bringing this topic up:icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
Martin you are right about what happened to me. However what I have NOT told anyone is that myself and Sophie have put the threads behind us, and have moved further along because of it.
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ok Rob your banned go to your room for 3 days lol!!!!
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Rockycoon ... you have a short memory. You posted right after stating ... "that you probably need to be there with a milkcan right underneath her" ... or words to that effect.
Shaun ... It wasn't an overreaction.
David5o ... what I wrote was a sarcastic joke about erasing your previous pics. You didn't read between the lines. As typical of your post comebacks, you have to resort to a personal remark. Yeah, okay ... I don't get it ... Whatever !!!
Many members state that we MODs are too serious. It's time to look at yourselves in the mirror. Whose making a big issue of out something that's so insignificant to this Forum. So I deleted a nudie pic, so what ??? If you guys had your own Forum, you would be moderating as we're ... that's according to your judgement/opinion. That's what I did. .
There was a topic made in the past about welcoming a women point of view to the Forum ... which thread, I don't remember off hand. The posts afterwards welcome this suggestion. Sorry David5o that we didn't consult you. We'll put you at the top of the list next time. :icon_cool:
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Ok I think everybody needs a time out.I haven'y seen the picture everybody is argueing about.Or the comments that were made after the picture was posted and deleted.
When you singed up for this forum.There was a list of rules to be followed.I do remember one of the rules says no pornography.So if Chong thanks that this picture is pornography or is in bad taste.He has every right to delete it.If somebody has a problem.They think one of my mods are being heavy handed.You or more then welcome to send the deleted post to me.For further review.
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I would like to bring something up...and in no way am I trying to be controversial. Just something I have noticed. I am not pointing the finger at anyone, so please do not take offense.
Every now and then, I get the feeling that the mods are a target for different people's anger. For whatever reason, they are the targets. When it comes to throwing shit at the mods, it is apparently unacceptable when a mod gets angry and throws shit back.
I know in the past, I have publicly blasted a member or two. I am not justifying this. And when I have done this, I get some angry responses. The same thing happens when you go after the mods. Nobody wants to be attacked in this way. (and yes, I am being hypocritical because I have done it myself)
I am not saying that there is no room for discussion, because in my opinion, there is always room for discussion, and room for change. The mods are human, and prone to getting upset when they feel as though they have been attacked. Like anyone else on this forum, they will defend themselves.
And also, because we are human we all tend to see things differently. For myself, i did not see this picture. But what is not offensive to some, is considered offensive to someone else. We are all human...well, except for Maxx. I am just looking for understanding when we start throwing mud. I will also try to be more aware of it in the future, in my own postings.
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Chong, oh yeh, now I remember that one. And yes I mentioned a milk can and stool. I did not look at it as a dirty picture
but more of a funny joke. It was posted in a humor area. But hey, if its deleted, Its deleted. Let a dead dog alone. No harm
to anyone. Can't believe all this over a deleted joke. Lets forget it and move on to bigger and better things.
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Lets forget it and move on to bigger and better things.
So at last you want them to move onto me!!!!!!!!!!!:angel::angel::icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
Bigger - better - just how my wife describes me.
I no speaker da Chineso but I think (hope) that what she means.
Willy
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First it was closed now reopened!
No new postings so maybe better if thread did stay at rest!
Willy
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This thread has definatly took a strange turn.
At least the cooling off period worked.
Willy
PS Would have used shoutbox but no one has used that for more than 48 hours - is there something wrong with it?
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But what I would like to discuss here, is what do we do in the future about it? Do we say that this is a guys forum, and that women are welcome, but that there is content they might find offensive? I am looking for direction here, on this particular issue. Obviously, we know that there will be times that having a lady reading this forum can be dangerous. Look at what happened to Scottish Rob. So where do we go from here?
I think that you should have something about this being a mens site for advise on dating eastern women and there may be material that could offend some people. Maybe even a note for the men about inviting your lady to this site when they join the forum. That is my 2 cents worth. (2.1 cents to you americans) :icon_cheesygrin:
Dave C
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I agree. and thats 2.5 cents to the euro...lol