China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Ask An Experienced Member => Topic started by: rockycoon on August 15, 2010, 11:56:24 pm
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Just recently, I was going to town from the ranch, when I discovered that one of my friends (well used to be) was home from his worldly travels, of seven years,
only to find that he was now married to a phillipino girl and had two kids 2 and 4 years old. I did the usual hello, how ya doing and met the wife and kids ( I even acted suprised) and went on.
Well the very next day I had to do the 12 mile go to town for parts thing agian and as I drove by, I noticed him with his trucked packed and he was off to
mexico where he has a home also. He was on his way to china and works with one of those teacher go-here -go there programs kind of like the english
teacher thing in china.
Well out comes his wife in really big tears holding the 2 year old, and yelling for me to help her and of course out comes the old man. Now I have her crying in
my drivers window and him yelling at her through the passenger window....what a scean if you can think about it. Well I told them I didn't want to be involved
and drove on down the road. Well I got about 2 miles down the road and felt so bad I turned around and went back. And low and behold, there she is walking
down the dirt road, he is no where to be found and she is bare footed with a skimpy dress on and the baby was in a skimpy dress, both had filthy clothing on
and still crying. So I ask where the husband was and he had kicked her and the baby out on the street, and taken the 4 year old to mexico and not only
that, he took her passport with him and did not leave her any money or other clothes or even shoes or anything else to wear.
Now let me describe the girl. She is 26, about a size 11, about 4"4" and has a great behind, excellent grapefruit, and long black hair and is cute as a button face
Why anyone would want to do this is beyond me. (whoops ranout room see next messege)
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When I got down the road I started feeling guilty, so I turned around and went back, and here she was walking barefooted in the dirt in a dirty filthy light dress and the baby was the same way. So I stopped and told her were my house was, (close by) and told her the place was unlocked to go there and make herself at home. When I got back from a small job (2 hour) that I had to do, there she was sitting on the front porch with the baby. Her old man took the 4 year old
and split to mexico untill he goes to china. Just left her and the baby and split.
so I took her in the house, washed her up the best I could and made them a meal and put a cartoon in the dvd for the baby and showed her the guest room and
made her a bed and talked most of the night to her in the kitchen to find out just what in the hell was going on. Seems she has been married for five years and
came from mindanow in a small villege and he got her pg and then married her.
she has been treated like a slave for five years while he smoked a lot of pot and drank hard liqure and was with other women. I fact he would have women in
there bed while she was home and more than once she caught them.
So I called some friends and put in a mercy call for clothes for them. The next morning we had tons of clothes for them, but since I am building and my place don't have sheetrock up yet and a generator for electric, I called a friend who had a daughter that would take her in along with the child.
I told her that since I lived so close to the husbands house that It would not be safe for her. (see next messege -out of room agian...damn)
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Anyway, I took her over there and got her settled in, looked like the baby hadn't eaten for a week and no shawn they didn't die from my cooking, in fact they said it was quite good.
Anyway, this next week I will take them to welfare and get them food stamps and medical and anything else I can. The problem is that he took her passport,
she is here on a 90 day visitation visa, and she wants to stay (don't they all) so what are my options without getting her kicked out of the country or locked up?
She is a sweet girl, works hard (my place has never been cleaner) and her son has been taken to mexico (with the father) and she has nothing and knows only
a few people I have introduced her to. Even with a BS she is not that bright and is just lost in America.
Anyone got any bright idea's. Sure would help. By the way, the baby is American. Anchor perhaps? and yes before you ask she speaks English, Chinese and
Saudi.
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Chinese and Saudi ? no shit.Im immpressed.Yes Rocky that kid being American does help allot.Immigration will not kick her out of the country.Especially since that kid is American.And her other kid was kidnapped by a American.
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Ok Rocky.When you run out of room.Just put your mouse pointer on the bottom of the box.Click it then drag the box down to make it bigger.If you run out of room again.you can do the same thing again.You can do it as many times as you need.
I don't know if you want to get involved anymore then you already are.If you do.You need to call immigration and explain to them what happened.Wonder boy is responsible for the woman.And the kids.You need to find out her visa status.Does she have a green card? ( if she doesn't have a green card don't worry immigration will not deport her) You mite call the sheriff to.Wonder boy kidnapped that kid.And transported him across a international border.That is some serious jail time.
Find her a immigration attorney.She needs to get her green card straightened out.If you look hard enough you probably can find one that will work for free.And collect the money latter from wonder boy.After he gets out of jail.
The girl is going to be a burden until she can get on her own feet.With government assistance.Thiere mite be a welfare office close to you.I think that is where I would start.They can get the ball rolling.And get her a place to live and some food stamps.And some medical care for her and the baby.
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Where in Ca are you?
I have friends all over the state mostly in the north.
Not got any good Ideas, But interested in hearing how the are doing from time to time.
And how her husband eventually gets whacked.
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you know this dirt bag is responsible for her and the kid and the first stop i would go to the police and file the
complaint. they need to be aware so when he does come back the report has been filed. you wonder why they do this
he needs his #%$ kicked but that will only get you in trouble. if she is in calif i have a boat load of people who could help her there
but she is in your state right??? is the 4 yr old theirs also?? not clear on that?? this compounds to all immigration procedures
and why it takes so long
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Rocky,
First off it is nice to see you back here. Secondly have her file a report of the kidnapping of the 4 year old. They need to put out an Amber alert for the child. (I think Mexico participates in this program too) This is how they will catch this guy. Then they will put him in a Mexican jail for a while and you know the treatment he should get for kidnapping.... Then I don't think he will be going to China for quite a while. He should not be able to board the plane for China if there is an Amber alert out for the child.
Dave C
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I am not sure if I am reading this right?If he is also the father of the child it will not be considered kidnapping.The court must first determine custody of said child.If the child is her child before the marriage then she will be the custodial parent then she has the right to list it as kidnapping.Taking a child out of the country is going to be difficult for him.It should be when he tries to cross the border.If she reports it they will stop him from crossing until this is worked out.It is sad to see this happen especially with children involved as well.Hopefully she has the childs paperwork showing birth and all that as well.I hope this helps.She does know his address in mexico doesnt she? He wont be hard to find if he owns another house there.
Ron
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Ron , it is kidnapping .
I have a Cousin in Nevada with two Kids and is going through a Divorce proceeding . She want's to move back to Calif . ( she has costidy of them both ) , but can not go with the kids without "HIS" permission to do so . If she did , it would be Kidnapping and this only over State lines . Over International Border's is .. let say much more trouble for the one doing it , as now dealing with two Gov's .
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only kidnapping if it is in the process of a divorce or not his kid. this will turn into a he said and she
said with all the burden of proof being on her side when he just says she is crazy i didnt do anything like
that i just went for a visit. she needs to start the abuse papers right away and get the process started
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Sorry i thought they got in an argument and he left with the child.Either way he seemed to abandon her and the other child.She has grounds for abandonment but she needs to act swiftly before he does anything.My heart goes out to her this shouldnt have gotten this far .Its sad she doesnt have any friends in this situation and its a good thing you got involved I commend you for that seems like most people just turn their backs these days and dont want to get involved .You did a great thing .
Ron
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Don said they are not married. I think it is kidnapping. Secondly they are already in Mexico. Where Don lives is only 2-3 hours from the border. Mexico does do Amber Alert but it is like China. It will take a little green grease to get the child back. The Mexican police force is as corrupt as it can be.
Don, welcome back. You have been missed.
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Shaun Rocky said they were married.First post third line.
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Dang Maxx. ??? That's what you get when you try to read, type and talk to your girl all at the same time.
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walk chew gum
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Guys,
Don did say that she got pregnant before they were married. When the first child was born would determine custody too, before the marriage or after. Looks like it was probably after being married. I would still report the taking of her child without her permission and especially across international borders. (U.S. customs always asked my kids when they were younger if the persons had permission to be taking them across the border but this was when they saw their last names were different on whatever citizenship papers were presented) There may be a question of custody in this case but the point is he would be stopped at the border or airport with the child and then held untill everything is decided.
If she can proove his "pot" habit and she has no such drug habit it will be a big plus for her in deciding custody. If you are going to the gov't agencies to get the ball rolling the police are the first place I would start and I would not sleep until I have been there. Then I would go to the others. The safety of the child is paramount. Look at all the crap going on in Mexico with regards to drugs. If he smokes that much pot he will be looking to buy some at some point from the dealers there and I would guess that the child would be with him too. I would be a little worried about the child. I don't think he is worried about the childs welfare because he abandoned the younger child along with his wife so I don't think the childs welfare is his motive for taking the older one.
Anyways, just for safetys sake I would go to the police ASAP Don and tell them exactly what hes happened. This is just my opinion on this though.
Dave C
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Something that has been noring at me since the beginning of this. A US citizen cannot own property in Mexico? That's number 1. Number 2, She can go back into the house, even if he threw her out. 3, if he abandoned her she may be able to keep the house and he pays for that because he left. 4, She can get all the help she needs (welfare, etc) simple for having that small child with her. Again he will pay for that (reimburse the state) too.
Have the cops come to the house with a locksmith and change the locks. It's legal that way. He didn't take the younger kid because he would have to take care of it instead of whoring around.
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Why can't a US citizen own property in Mexico? This must be limited to Americans because I know some Canadians that own property in Mexico.
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i dont think thats true because i know 2 people who retired in a part of mexico and bought a townhouse there
maybe they cant buy all over but i think there are places you can buy. they always told me i should do that instead
of my interest in china but i never did like mexico especially to live. hell i lived in calif which is like a extension of
mexico anyway.
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Americans can definitely own property in Mexico.Chola bay outside of Puerto penasco Mexico.Is owned buy a bunch of Americans.I know half a dozen people who own condos thiere.And Ranches in Mexico.
I used to live next door.To Ricky Valence's uncle.He was a American citizen.He flew corsairs in W.W. 2. He owned a ranch south of Durango Mexico.He spent half the year in Co.And the other half in Mexico.
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ok, I'm back in town breifly, first she is philipino, both her children were fathered by the same guy, so yes he's the father of both, second, he is already gone
with the child and her and I do not know where he is. So she has at least one anchor, that being that she had an americans children, so they would be
considered for all purposes american?
I am taking her to welfare on this coming friday and she is in arizona at this time. Will get her some food stamps and the medical, they will know what to do
further...I don't think they will take the child away from the mother but with the new imigration laws, I don't think anchors count any more since all this mexican
stuff.
I would also like to note that Shaun, your wife is really foxey in that picture and you look a whole lot younger my friend. Guess that viagra works in other ways
also...the fountian of youth....LOL you look like 40 now....good food no mcdonalds.
Vince going from 2 bedroom to 4 bedroom with a loft now, that is why I am so busy. Got a tiny bit of the kitchen done now and putting (still) in the solar system.
Soon as I can I'll upload some pictures (eat yer hearts out guys...heh heh), and you wouldn't want to live in that shack of his...no bathroom utilities (unless you
find a tree, no running water (unless it rains), nowhere to cook...etc etc.
Oh guys...to settle an argument....Yes you can own land in mexico... 1. I has to be 60 miles from any beach. 2. If you want land near the beach it cannot be
within 200 yards of the beach, to buy land near the beach you must use a mexican holding company on paper (they have lots of these) and it will never really
be yours truly, just you and the holding company. The federarallys own all the coast line proper. (in case we attack them).... ;D ::). I have a friend who
sells property down there I'll tell you about it sometime.
for the most part Rhoda (her name) has a roof over her head, the two year old (her youngest) has another 2 year old to play with and friday I'll take her down to welfare and get her food stamps (I already got her some to last a month).
Anyway thats for the most part what is happening. Now, how to get her a divorce in the good old (pay up front) USA? also it's not a green card its a temp visitors visa (90) day.
Best to all of you and if you like you can move this blog to the campfire where idea's abound.
Rocky.. ;D ;D
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Americans and other foreign citizens can buy property in Mexico, but there are some things that must be considered. Property located within 50 kilometers of the Mexican coastline or 100 kilometers of a national border (U.S./Mexican border), is contained within the restricted zone "zona restringida", and foreign citizens are not permitted to obtain fee simple title to property located within its boundaries. However, foreign citizens are permitted to purchase use rights for property located in the restricted zone through the establishment of a land trust "fideicomiso" with a local bank. These use rights are good for two increments of fifty year terms, and the owners of these use rights may pass such rights on to their heirs who may then create a new land trust in which they too shall be able to renew their use rights for two increments of fifty year terms.
In simpler words you basically lease the land, not outright own it.
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Don, thanks for the complement. And yes I am a lucky guy. That photo will be the center piece of a group of photos in a picture frame. It is my favorite.
I hope that you can help Rhoda to the point that she is free from such a louse. But don't be surprised when he comes back that she goes back with him. So Don, be careful but you are doing a great job.
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Just one point. Who would want to buy property in Mexico? I still remember what the did to John Wayne at the Alamo.
Willy
Rocky your doing a great job.
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Guys, go to "Rocky Point Mexico" on the computer and unless things have changed there is a whole thing on the land stuff on the realitor page. Also, got Rodia
stuck in a house of a friend (girl) and she is now doing fine, but is still confused with the immigration thing. She now has a roof over her head, food, clothes,
and the baby has another 2 year old in the house to pester and torture. She has already been able to talk to her son and of course the arse. She is still leaving
him and looking into a divorce, he is trying to sweet talk her and even said he would send money (not, just trying to get her address) and any other info he can
as this is how it works (Shaun is very correct). Once he sweet talks her to coming back, he will get her to go to mexico and all hell will break loose. I know this.
if she does go back, it's her funural as you all know that women will go back to the same old shit. Guess they can't get enough punishment.
Anyway, I've talked myself blue in the face trying to tell her to stay here and all will be well, and I will take her to immigration in Phoenix later this month
to get the information she needs. By the way, she is 26 (my mistake) both kids are his and the US has a deal with the Phillipines and so both children are US
citizens and have US papers. Ok, will get more news as it happens guys.
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if she is talking with him soon enough she will colapse and go back she should just talk with the son