China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Newbies Corner => Topic started by: Axiom on April 25, 2011, 05:04:45 pm
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As I mentioned elsewhere I finally got my plane ticket to China, and for the type of work I am looking for, I thought Beijing would be teh place for me. But I realize I know very little about the city. So I thought I'd start a thread about Beijing to learn about other peoples experiences as well, as maybe get to know some people since it would be nice to know someone in the country I am going too!
One of my frist questions is the fact I hear so much about the bad air pollution in Beijing. For those who are there, what do you think of the cities air?
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Hey Axiom,
Haze in any of the major chinese cities can be pretty nasty. The problem is that it's very fine particulate matter and can be from pollution to dust from the Gobi. when the count gets too high, good luck looking beyond 20-30 feet. It's usually worse during the summer when things are dryer and there are more winds to whip things around. Just before the Beijing Olympics, the city had put into place some things to deal with the pollution aspect (most notably restrictions on driving), but I don't know if they continued it much beyond 2008.
One of the things you can do is carry arround some facemasks (Rated N95 or better) for those days when the pollution is bad. Also pay attention to reports of "Blue Sky Days" as those are the good air days...
Hope that helps.
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That would be me then :) Baoding is reinventing itself as a "Special green technology zone" in reality that means we manufacture wind turbines,solar panels and the like on a grand scale! They tell me it's the first carbon neutral city in China too.
My wife and I travel to Beijing fairly regularly to do business or visit family and to tell you the truth either the pollution is not as bad as it's made out to be or I've been in China too long. Yes there are bad days but it's not as bad as say Athens in Greece. Like Scott says "Some people get really bothered by it, and others don't seem to mind. You'll have to judge for yourself".
Beijing is like many capitol city's around the world it's big, dirty, noisy, but also buzzing and full of opportunities. I would suggest subscribing to the "Beijinger" newsletter, it's free and every week they will send you a list of events happening in the city. Here's the link
http://www.thebeijinger.com/newsletter (http://www.thebeijinger.com/newsletter)
If your planning on living in the city try to rent an apartment near a subway station it makes getting around much easier, haha saying that, it is pretty crowded at times ::)
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Interesting... I stayed in Baoding for a week (this was before I knew anyone here).... most of the days were hazy for me, even when I went out into the countryside... Scariest part was when I passed the nuclear plant...because of the haze, you couldn't see very far....then out of the gloom you see this giant stack (think the Simpsons) looming out at you.
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I found the air in Beijing to be very smoggy until i arrived in Handan, one third of the population of Beijing but four times worst, I suffered with the air in Handan but Beijing was OK, I will wear a mask next time i am there.
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Nuclear power plant in Baoding????haha I must be missing something! There are plants in Ningdao, Ling'ao , Qinshan, Fangjiashan, Fuqing, Sanmen,Haiyang ,Taishan and Xianning, but not sunny Baoding thank goodness. They were planning to build 27 more on the coastline but after the Japanese experience all construction is on hold. Giant stack...I know of only one and that's at a plant that has now closed down, they take pollution seriously here. "The times they are a changing" as they say. Well ,Dylan even played in Beijing last week!
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Wow, so much good info here I am not sure where to start...
mustfocus and john1964: where do you get those facemasks? Are they available anywhere?
sameldrum1: Well, considering I know NOTHING of the Chinese language, and I my field of knowledge is graphic design, flash animation and programming, and a bit of knowledge in programming languages (ActionScript 3, Python) I am pretty certain I am going to have to stick to the cities at least for the first year, even though I am not a huge fan of cities either. Being from Wisconsin in the United States, that means I really enjoy colder winters than hot summers so that part I dont mind.
Paul Todd: Once again Paul thanks again for the great info. Actually I am subscribed to the Beijinger already via your suggestion! Since I got my computer up and running again, I have been checking it every day for possible work (no luck so far though). I dont want to find a place to live until I find work :(
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The air quality varies a lot in Beijing depending on the weather. One time I was there it was so bad it felt and smelt like my mouth was wrapped around a car exhaust pipe. Clothes stank to high heaven and visibility was poor.
Overall its very poor compared to western cities though it seems the authorities are making some efforts to clean it up.
A useful site to see air quality over different parts of China, including Beijing is http://www.amfic.eu/bulletin/index.php (http://www.amfic.eu/bulletin/index.php) , PM10 pollution is particularly nasty.
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Paul Todd: If go from the train station in Baoding and head towards Dingzhou, after 10-20 km out, you pass what appears to be a cooling tower for a nuclear power plant. Not sure what else to call it.
Axiom: If you're still in the US, you should be able to get them at any drug store. They're just surgical masks with different ratings. Failing that, Costco should have them or Home Depot as well (most likely near where they keep saws and other tools).
Also, if you're looking at somewhere to live, you might consider Tianjin. It's an hour south of Beijing by train. Haven't been there myself, but I find that if you're closer to water, that's either much better (better air) or much worse depending on the direction the wind blows. And I've heard good things about there.
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I spent some time in September in Beijing. It rained almost every day and at night I could actually clearly see the moon. Never saw a blue sky mainly because of the cloud cover. I enjoyed it though. The climate is bearable at that time of year.
I have also been there in mid summer and it can get really hot and sticky but not as bad as my native Oklahoma. The air is really hazy in June. Be prepared to be drenched in your own sweat.
Tons of friendly people on the sidewalks and in the malls. Be careful because there is a scam behind a lot of the friendly faces. If you meet a pair named Sherry and Amanda ,,,, RUN LIKE HELL!
American food is not hard to find. Just ask a local. A lot of folks speak limited English and most are friendly enough to give you directions to your destination.
There are subways that will get you to most of the big business districts. Taxis are hard to flag down during any time of day. It is just a matter of luck. I never tried the bus because I could not read the bus schedules.
There is plenty to do to keep you entertained and lots of tourist attractions.
Stay away from the Pearl Market unless you are curious and like giving away your money. Everything I purchased there has made its way to the trash bin in just a few months.
I stayed near the forbidden city and transportation was good there. I walked to my destination most of the time.
If you can afford it get a local translator to help you out and get you settled. You can find a lot of local help here at this website. Just type in the city of intrest to get a list of local folks to assist you. http://www.localyte.com/travel-guides/China?&sq=beijing&x=7&y=11 (http://www.localyte.com/travel-guides/China?&sq=beijing&x=7&y=11)
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I too spent some time in Beijing in September and we had a few days very smoggy but the rest were very sunny with blue skies.
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Wow. What days were you there? I have the same photos and I was standing in the same area as whoever took the shot of the two ladies. Maybe I was standing behind them!
Never mind, I just checked. We wer both there on the same day. Your photo was taken at 9:30 am and min was taken in the afternoon. It's a small world after all,,,, Gerry
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Ha ha Gerry, The pic of MinYing and her friend was on the exact same day as yours was taken, I will go through my videos of that day and see if i can see you, I was at the wall on the 20th, A couple of days earlier,,Small world, you got that right,,John.
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i am in beijing since Aug 2010. i would like to help you if you need. living in beijing is safe and comfortable. there are different food include chinese and west.
have a good trip
Sara
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Wow I didn't know I'd get cool pics as well (even the pollution filled ones).
Again mustfocus: Thanks for the advice.. I'll grab some and make sure to bring them along. I'll keep Tanjin in mind, but like I said a lot depends on where I end up workwise.
Irishman: Do you have another link to that site? or what brower you can get it open with? I tried IE and Firfox and both timed out sadly :(
Pineau: Lot of good info here, not sure who Sherry and Amanda are.. but now I kind of want to hear the story :P Not sure what Pearl Market is but I will keep a wary out for it, thanks. Double thanks for the travel guides site. Once my move (out of where I live and into a frinds house) is over and I start my final move (to China). I will definately be contacting some of these people for as much info I can get (so I dont pester everyone here constantly).
Sara: I would be honored for any assistance. this is a huge leap in my life and I want to make sure I land 'relatively' safely. So I will take any assistnace offered!
Again, I can't offer enough thanks to everyone for your help!
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Axiom:
Pineau means Hong Qiao market (it's a big building just outside the entrance to the Temple of Heaven ... aka Tian Tan). I have a photo of it somewhere. I don't think it's that bad (I got a few nice pearl necklaces from there that are still quite nice), but you do have to be careful (but that's true anywhere).
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It's my pleasure that i would help you everything that i can in beijing. i would try to tell you how to live and work comfortable in beijing, include how to understand the chinese, travel and eat if you need.
i was born in the north of china, and i had worked in guangzhou over 20 years old before Aug 2010. i travelled a lot in china and i met a lot of nice people who help me in my life, include guys here so i wish i would do some nice thing for all you. but yo know my English is not good so you would be more patient and make sure what i say if you ask me questions ;).
Sara
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Mustfocus, Yes that is the one. Just outside the walls of the Temple of heaven. I didn't even go into the jewelry section or the knock off leather goods section. I spent all my time in the electronics section. It is truly knock off central. Everything has the correct logos and packaging but when you get it back to the hotel and open it up you will find that is was made in China or elsewhere in Asia. The flash drives are terrible quality and full of defective sectors and all the ones that I purchased (4) were preloaded with computer virus software. They also have some sort of trick to make disk drives appear to have twice the actual capacity. If you reformat them (to remove the virus) you find they are half the size of the one you bought. I bought an iphone, ipad, a Sony netbook, and some spare batteries for my phone and camera. They all turned out to be knockoffs. All but the netbook have ended up in the trash. The battery in the netbook is only good for about 1.5 hours.
The jewelry my be of good quality and actually genuine but after my experience with the electronics I would not take the chance. Here are some reviews from other visitors. http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294212-d321012-Reviews-Pearl_Market_Hongqiao_Market-Beijing.html (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294212-d321012-Reviews-Pearl_Market_Hongqiao_Market-Beijing.html)
As for Sherry and Amanda. I am certain they are a team of cons. Two days of hanging out, seeing a few tourist sites, drinking beer (they drank tea and wine), playing Foosball and pool was the most expensive two days of my life. I have been hustled for drinks before in my younger days and thought I knew all the scams but these two are good. Great personalities, funny, are fun to hang out with. I wish I had figured it out sooner. I was paying several hundred dollars for a POT OF TEA and near one thousand for a bottle of wine. I tried to dispute the extravagant charges with my credit card company and they said no. The also said they get these type of disputes every day from business men in Beijing and other cities, who thought they were having a normal night out when they were really paying extravagant prices for wine and tea. Needless to say that is the last I saw of them but I there are many of these scams being perpetrated all over Beijing. My advice READ THE CREDITCARD SLIP before you sign it, don't carry a high limit credit card or better yet pay cash for everything. And get this. one time Sherry asked to see my camera. I thought she was looking at all the photos we had taken of places we visited. But what she was doing was deleting her and Amanda's photos. I learned my lesson. It cost me a little over $11,000.
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okay... the Hong Qiao market statements made me think of a few other things I wanted to ask about. Haggling. I read it is an important skill in China... as one who never haggled, any ideas for how to guage the worth of something? I know thats a vauge statement, but i am just curious if I do something like buy a shirt.. Would I start at 1 rmb and go from there? will they get offended and boot me out of the shop?
Do you have to haggle for EVERYTHING? whats it like grocery shopping? is it like in western countries where i go to a supermarket and grab some stuff and wait in a check out line? If not, what is it like? (I got curious about this since if I stay in China for any amount of time... I will probably need to eat sooner or later :P )
Dont ask me how this popped into my head, but does anyone know how to switch from English on an US keyboard to chinese characters (on Windows 7)? I have tried this a few times now and bring up the language task bar, switch it to chinese characters.. but when I try to type.. it is still English. Grrr. grrr. gr.....
Any help with that would be awesome.
Sara: if you are able to help me with my newb-ness around China, the least I can do is be decent enough to be patient with your English!
Pineau: $11,000!!?!?!?!? Seriously? Yowie zowie Batman. Thats painful just to read, can't imagine how bad it was to live through. Well, I dont have any plans to buy a lot of Jewelry :P But I will sterr clear for the electronics stuff... thanks for the tip.
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Yes, seriously. I mean, there is some value in getting to hang out with two lovely, silly fun-loving ladies that speak good English and are native to Beijing. They know all the sites and can show you around find you a good steak and take you shopping. I had a great time with them but I don't think I got $11,000 worth.
As far a haggling. It's fun but I'm no good at it. I make an offer, they will counter, I will cave in and pay and leave. I feel good because I didn't pay the asking price and they feel even better because they got double what it is worth. sort of win-win.
I don't haggle in supermarkets or chain stores but I will just about everywhere else. I got 2000 yuan off of Fiona's wedding ring just by walking across the isle and heading to another vendor.
There are a lot of sidewalk vendors and shops that open directly on the sidewalk. Most of these will haggle with you. It all depends on the merchant. It doesn't hurt to try. You never know. I got a Doctor once to wave my insurance deductable just by asking if he would.
Using the language bar was a mystery to me for a long time. Along with selecting Chinese you also need to pick the input method you will be using. Pinyin, Quanpin, etc. I have gotton to where I don't use it at all. I just type in English and translate it to Chinese using one of the popular translators. For me it is much faster than trying to remember pinyin.
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People will retired and get their retired salary (退休金) when they get 50 or 55 year old for ladies and 60 years old for man. in China.
In Guangzhou you will get your 退休金if you work over 15 years and your company and you would pay the fee of your pension account (退休帐户). You wouldn’t get your 退休金 if your company wouldn’t pay the money for your pension account in Guangzhou. my parents have thier 退休金 about 4000yuan/month for each one.
Sara
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i am sorry that i paste it the wrong place ;) ;).
Sara
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Axiom:
You usually haggle at flea market type places. If it's a proper store, you can ask, but 99% of the time, you won't get. Places like Hong Qiao or New Silk Street Mall are places where you might haggle. But Carforre (sorry, can't spell it....we don't have those here in the big smoke) you don't.
I would suggest you start at half the quoted value or maybe 2/3 of what you're willing to pay. Then counter offer 2-3 times....that should get you to where you want to be in terms of haggling..... I suck at it (I'm not going to haggle to the last RMB when I could be spending the time more productively)....
As for using your CC, just use your common sense. If the place is dodgy, don't pay by CC.... When I was in BJ last, I only used my CC at the hotel, the airport and at a high end watch store...oh and a big name department store....
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Pineau: IOkay thats good to know. Id hate to go shopping, forget something and then have to run back to the store... only to have to haggle again for something like some salt or a stick of butter or whatever.
Yeah, this toggle bar isnt working its kind of frustrating and want to give up.. but I really want to learn how to write/type chinese. So I think it would help immensely... so i will keep finding a way to use it >:(
Sara: Hahahaha! dont worry about it! Everyone makes mistakes. Besides, the information you posted was informative :)
mustfocus: More good advice.
Okay, on to my NEXT question (anyone bored yet? I have a million questions. So if I start to be a pest just say :D ) My plane ticket starts in Milwaukee, from there I fly to Toronto (on Air Canada), and from Toronto to Beijing. Now I just have a passport.. I was wondering if I need anything else when I land in Toronto, or even Beijing? I know I need a Visa. But If I dont have a job yet, and dont have a Z visa.. is there another visa I can get in the mean time while looking for work?
Does that make sense?
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You are going to need a tourist visa.There are many sites on Th enternet offering to submit your information to the Chines consulate.They are all about the same price.If you live close to a Chinese consulate you can download a visa application.Fill it out.And then just drop it off.At the Chinese consulate.They will tell you when the visa will be ready.By dropping it off at the nearest Chinese consulate.You can save yourself about 60.00 dollars.If you don't live close to a Chinese consulate.You will have to use a visa service.It will take about 10 days.If you go the cheapest route.If you need the visa in a hurry it can get real expensive real fast.So plan ahead.
Americans don't need a visa to go to Canada.You would not need a visa Evan if your flight had a layover in Korea or Tiawan.Because you are considered a passenger in transit.Which means that you will not be leaving the airport in any of thees countries.So you do not fall under their jurisdiction.Unless you tried to leave the airport.And have a look around.Then you would need a visa.
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New Type Of Take Out in Beijing Includes Waiter!
In a city where even McDonald’s delivers to your door, Beijing-based Haidilao has taken “take out” to a whole new level. Where Chinese take out often conjures images of white cardboard boxes, fried rice and chow mein, the experience provided by Haidilao is in a category all its own.
Haidilao, a chain of 53 restaurants specializing in hot pot meals, has taken China by storm. According to Louisa Lim, “Haidilao is more than just a restaurant; it’s a modern Chinese institution. This popular hot pot restaurant feeds more than 10,000 Beijingers a night, with people willing to wait two hours for a table. The lines are so long that the restaurant gives out free Internet access, manicures and shoeshines.”
So what is a hot pot? A divided pot (usually two, sometimes three chambers) with one section full of boiling Szechuan peppercorn-spiced oil and the other with creamy chicken broth. The soup and oil are kept hot, and raw meats and vegetables are cooked at the table on skewers – like fondue meets Mongolian grill. What exactly does Haidilao provide? Everything. The hot pot, the soup, the meat and vegetables — even a trash can, which the delivery man drops off and picks up hours later per your request!
At roughly $10/head (including a $4 delivery fee) not only is this innovative experience convenient, it’s incredibly inexpensive! Want a waiter in your home? Add another $10 and you’ll have table-side service while you eat! Haidilao acknowledges that, for the cost, they don’t make a profit by providing in-home hot pots – but that’s ok with them, they are providing a one-of-a-kind experience that is helping them stay on the cutting edge of the industry.
Just a flavor of the city you will be moving too!
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Okay. Wouldnt I want to get a Work Visa since I want to find employment there? Not trying to be difficult, just curious.
Man, Paul. that sounds awesome. I could go for some delievered hotpot right about now.
Everyone gets +1 rep for all their assistance with this. I learned a lot in the past few days.
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Axiom, hit me up when you get here. Me and my gf lives in Beijing. We can also help you with the visa stuff later if you have problems.
As for the airpollution, i dunno ... i have lived here for 6 months almost now. I think it is FAR over-exaggerated. I have been to cities in eastern europe which are FAR FAR worse when it comes to pollution. The old saying that you never see blue skies here is just bs, i see clear blue sky a lot. Still, the traffic here during rush hours is extreme. It takes a little while getting used to, and the crowded subway. Some foreigners adjust and fit in, i have met others who went with the metro once and then said never EVER again .. lol
Despite being the capital, living in Beijing is cheap. You can get a nice western style apartment for below 2000/month if you can accept living outside of the city (30 mins). As a foreigner they will try to rip you off though, just get in touch with me when you get here and me and my gf can help you with all the "normal" stuff you have to go through.
We order lunch ..... home delivered ... usually its around 16rmb lol. You find yourself wondering who the hell is actually making a profit at those prices.
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Mikael, I dont want to dispute your experience in Beijing but when I was there in September it rained most every day and when the sun came out the skyes were indeed blue. Very nice infact. I went for a walk around the olympic stadium and there was not much polution to speak of.
But July was very different. I never ever saw a sky other than a hazy gray. Looking at the olympic stadium from a mile away was like looking throug a dirty window.
Perhaps they have cleaned it up some since my visit in 2006 and perhaps living outside the city makes a difference but Inside Beijing is considered to be the most poluted place on earth. Maybe it is bs now but back then it was far from bs.
http://www.eworldvu.com/international/2007/10/29/there-are-problems-in-the-air-for-beijing-2008.html (http://www.eworldvu.com/international/2007/10/29/there-are-problems-in-the-air-for-beijing-2008.html)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2005/oct/31/china.pollution (http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2005/oct/31/china.pollution)
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Yeah i know they "say" so hehe. And there are studies who say so too... but im not really buying it. They did do a lot of chemical "treatment" in Beijing to clean up the air... what that really means i guess none but the .cn gov know for sure ;). We live 30 mins outside Beijing city but i spend 8-10 hours in the city at work every day and so far i really havent been very bothered. I have traveled a lot in my life and certainly i can recall a few places in europe that at least both feels and smells horrible compared.
On the other hand, i guess it depends a lot what this pollution really is. There is plenty of toxins that have no smell or visibility that are far more dangerous then a lot of shit that both smells and look foul.
Besides, its not july yet ;) ... hehe. Perhaps i will change my mind when we hit 40+ this summer
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Axiom, hit me up when you get here. Me and my gf lives in Beijing. We can also help you with the visa stuff later if you have problems.
Thanks Mikael. (Sorry about the late reply... I have been stressing so much about getting everything done I stressed myself into a bad head cold...)
Well, my Big thing is whether I should do something like get a teaching job so i can get a Z visa and then start looking from there (Not very honest but cheaper) OR Go over on a tourist visa and then look for a job and then pay who knows what to change it over... and that said its not guarenteed that I will find work either.
Just so many things to cover... I thought of a few more things I wanted to add over the past few days while I wasnt feeling good, but for the life of me I cant remember them... ah well, they will come back to me eventually :P
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Okay finally to the point whre I am talking to different (potential) employers...
I hear a lot about scam English teaching schools... how can you tell if they are not on the level?
The buiggest headache is trying to figure out the Visa form...
I was told I will need a medical exam... what do I do? Just walk into the hospital and say "Hey! I need a medical exam for a visa to China! Will they know what I am talking about? Will they pelt me with rocks and shoo me away?
Do I even need one? Looking on this site.. (under number 6) is states I dont even need one... huh?!?! How does that work?
http://www.visarite.com/chinavisa/China_work_visa.htm (http://www.visarite.com/chinavisa/China_work_visa.htm)
Any advice on this would be fantastical
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Okay finally to the point whre I am talking to different (potential) employers...
I hear a lot about scam English teaching schools... how can you tell if they are not on the level?
The buiggest headache is trying to figure out the Visa form...
I was told I will need a medical exam... what do I do? Just walk into the hospital and say "Hey! I need a medical exam for a visa to China! Will they know what I am talking about? Will they pelt me with rocks and shoo me away?
Do I even need one? Looking on this site.. (under number 6) is states I dont even need one... huh?!?! How does that work?
http://www.visarite.com/chinavisa/China_work_visa.htm (http://www.visarite.com/chinavisa/China_work_visa.htm)
Any advice on this would be fantastical
Maybe the rules are different for your country. But as an Australian, when you apply for that type of visa (the "Z" visa), there is a form that has the medical checks on there (which is downloaded with the visa application form) that you take to your doctor for the medical. Once this is done and your doctor has completed the form, and you've received the invitation letter from the school, you take all of this along with the completed paperwork and your passport to the consulate/embassy for them to process. I think for the Z visa, you take a medical in your home country, and then have to take another one after you arrive in China. Usually, if you're applying for a job through a school, this is the standard procedure.
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Axiom, hit me up when you get here. Me and my gf lives in Beijing. We can also help you with the visa stuff later if you have problems.
Thanks Mikael. (Sorry about the late reply... I have been stressing so much about getting everything done I stressed myself into a bad head cold...)
Well, my Big thing is whether I should do something like get a teaching job so i can get a Z visa and then start looking from there (Not very honest but cheaper) OR Go over on a tourist visa and then look for a job and then pay who knows what to change it over... and that said its not guarenteed that I will find work either.
Just so many things to cover... I thought of a few more things I wanted to add over the past few days while I wasnt feeling good, but for the life of me I cant remember them... ah well, they will come back to me eventually :P
An alternative is to come over on a F-Visa, it has a lot of advantages over the tourist visa. There are no real limits as to how many times the F-Visa can be renewed/extended. The F-Visa can also be converted from F to Z without having to leave China. If you are going to stay here in Beijing, i can help you get the F-Visa easily. We also have all the contacts needed for the F to Z conversion, and also to extend the L visa. In the end, it will be a bit more hassle and a bit more costly arriving on a L visa and attaining a Z. From F to Z is far simpler. F-visas can now be extended to 1 year onsite in China and you only have to exit China once a year (Available only to citizens of certain countries, US should not be a problem) . The initial F-Visa u can apply for 1,3 or 6 months with multiple entry. I got the 6 months one when i first came here without any problem. You need an official letter of invitation to get this. This i can help you with.
The health check, here in Beijing you just go do it when/if you get the Z visa. The process is fast and simple. You really dont need to worry much about this. It is also A LOT easier to actually get a job if you are already in China. You do NOT need to make a health check in both your home country and then also China. ONLY the one in China is needed, and like i said, its a simple and swift process (Atleast in Beijing). There are a lot of "scam" schools yes. My best advice for you is to come here first, dont sign any agreements with a company or school you havent met face up. After you have been here for a while you will understand it better then i can explain ;) and you will thank me for the advice.
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Yeah, I would like any help you can give setting up the F visa...
I have been looking at a few teaching places.. and let me tell you, all i can say is WOW!!! Who would've thunk so many English Teaching scam companies exsisted!!?!
So with an F visa.. would I be able to come to china without a job and then look for work when I get there? I think that might be a better way to go currently.
I am still looking for that elusive Z visa... but at this point I need to get work there ASAP
p.s. Mikael, I added you onto my QQ list. If you see some strange guy saying hello... don't delete him.. thats me ;p
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With the F-Visa you wont have troubles looking for work here. We´ll take it in priv on QQ later.