China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Newbies Corner => Topic started by: Nigel on October 04, 2011, 08:15:33 am
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Is it possible to bring out my lady on one and how long do they last?
TIA Nigel
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If you read under the Australian visa requirements most answers are there , but it is almost impossible , lots of proof needed that she will return to China including a money bond of thousands , a property and also a job to return to and that is just from the Chinese side , also depends if she has travelled before and returned Or if you have been in a long term relationship it does get easier , you do not note where you are in Aust , your age etc , the more info the better off one can be directed , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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As Robert says...you can bring your Girlfriend to Aus on a fiance visa (visa sub-class 300) provided you can satisfy the Immigration Department that your relationship is genuine. You will need mountains of documents, photos, emails QQ records etc and you will need proof that you have actually been to China and met in person...2 or 3 times is best...a "once-only" visit is a bit "iffy".
Part of the application process is the actual booking details of your proposed marriage in Aus.
If and when you get granted a fiance visa, you have 9 months maximum to get married. If you dont marry within this time...she goes home....
As far as your other option...getting a Tourist Visa for her....I wouldnt bother to even try...it is very, very difficult to get a Tourist Visa for a single Woman.
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As all have mentioned above it is hard but not impossible. One thing to bear in mind though, it is the same paperwork as for a married visa just slightly different paperwork involved and the process maybe longer to complete. But the fees are the same, not sure of price now but when I paid was about $1700 Australian, you will have to pay before they even contemplate processing the paperwork and then if you are unsuccessful you will loose your money.
There is a letter for tourist visa in the Australian Requirements section. Which ever path you choose good luck and keep us informed and feel free to add to the info in the requirements section so others can learn from your experiences too.
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Let's just clarify one thing about Tourist visas for Chinese Women....
IF you put in an application for a Spouse visa (309) or a Fiance Visa (300) and do all the paperwork and pay all the fees then Aus Immigration are usually OK to issue a Tourist Visa for 3 months to your intended Partner. But even then she will have to be back in China to receive her Visa...because they will need her passport.
If you dont want to go as far as a Spouse or Fiance Visa, and just want her to come her for a while to look around etc...then Immig Dept will get frosty.....very likely that they will decline a Tourist Visa in this circumstance.
You may want to try, but best you get an Immigration lawyer to help...it is tricky
ps...If they decline...you dont get your money back !!!!!!
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Thanks guys, much appreciated.
She has house, excellent job, stable income, 28 years old, has a passport. Works in media, model, in Shanghai, Qingdao, Beijing. very poor English, but very bright girl.
I have known her about 18 months, seen her ( over there) three times. Plenty of communication, QQ started up, but having trouble, before now, SMS, phone, letters etc
I am Sydney, high income, stable job, 46 years old, three kids, blah, blah
Ok, ignoring the fiancee visa for the time being.....
If she just applied for a holiday visa to Australia, are you saying she would be knocked back?? She wants to visit for a couple of weeks in December, is that really unlikely?? Dam!! That would be very annoying!!
BTW, only found this site thru CHN Love about a week ago!M really great site, excellent info, very much appreciated for all the efforts you guys put in. Will do my best to add to the info pool when I have some decent advice to give!! ( if that ever happens)
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Nigel
We cant say precisely that your Lady would get a knock-back for a Tourist Visa, but as mentioned they are very, very reluctant to give Tourist Visas to single Women.
You can always give it a go and see what they say.....
I still suggest you get a Migration Agent to do the application...costs money but worth it because they know how to dot the I's and cross the T's ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks again to you all
Will let you know
She has a brother living in Sydney, might be best for her to just say she is visiting him??
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Nigel
That is a much better way to go. She can get an official letter from him inviting her to visit and mentioning that he will be responsible (financially) for her whilst she is here.
BTW...I assume he is at least a Permanent Resident ???...preferrably he should have full Citizenship.
I was able to get a Tourist visa for my Sister -in-Law to come here to visit, and I sent her a letter of invite along the lines as above.
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aaaaarrrrrrrgh!!!!
she applied for a holiday visa before I had a chance to give some advice, immediately knocked back!!!!'
grrrr!!
oh well, she can re-apply with the brother in Sydney story I hope!!!
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Nigel , it is all a laugh after what our EX P M said in todays news about getting Chinese tourists here to spend money , perhaps a copy of his statement should be sent to China and shoved under somebodies nose , regards Sujuan and Robert .
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Hey Robert, can't help agree on that point. I saw an article on the news a couple of months ago saying they were encouraging Chinese visitors here to Australia, not just in tourist groups. They love Red tape and the authority in China. I agree with the idea of getting her brother to sponsor her Nigel. Keep us updated
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All I will say is if something was easy then would it be worth having?
Willy
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haha, Willy, you seem to be a very wise man, I really like all yr posts!!
you got it all together, well done!!!
trouble is, she has been offered jobs here in Aus, it seems they are worried she won't return,,... I thought Oz was usually the problem, not China!!! Geez, as if they will miss one lady in 1.3 billion grrrrrrr
well, yes, it seems it will be a hard road, but I am determined to get there!!1
I will keep you informed..................
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Hi guys.
My (then) girlfriend visited me in Brisbane in June. She got a 3 month tourist visa granted to her in less than a week. No issue whatsoever.
Now she is my fiancee and we went to the Consulate in Guangzhou early last month to lodge her fiancee visa application. Everything appears to be going well. She has completed her medical examination and we have had no requests to provide any extra documentation. Between us, we completed all of the required documentation without the needs for Migrations Agents or the like. We're just playing the waiting game now which is the most difficult part.
We aren't youngsters. I'm 53 and she is 43. She also has an 18 year old daughter who is coming with her.
We have found both the tourist and fiancee visa processes quite smooth and easy to traverse which seems a complete contradiction to many other stories I have read and heard. Maybe we're just lucky?
Cheers.
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Thanks Tom....... Congrats!!!
How was it so easy?? Did she just apply, or did you sponsor her??
I have had no luck, but do not have any idea why. She has been told that gift does not issue tourist visas for single women outside a tour group!!!
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Hi Nigel, My wife also had her visitors visa denied and when i read the official document it read that she could not re-apply in China but we have every right to appeal the decision here in Australia, Ask your wife/girlfriend to send you a copy of the denial and have a good read, good luck, John.
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G'day Nigel,
No, I didn't sponsor her. She applied as a single woman who wanted to visit for tourism purposes and it was granted. Clearly, there is always a worry that the visa holder will disappear into the ether and really strong ties to China are necessary. In our case, she is a very highly skilled and educated professional and comes from a well regarded and similarly skilled family. She has a daughter, a successful business and real estate holdings in China - all good and valid reasons for her to return - which of course she did.
I guess on the balance of probabilities it was perhaps determined that she had more to lose by not returning to China than she had to gain by remaining in Australia. Once that was apparent, the visa was granted.
Mate, I hope that advice helps!
Cheers
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Thanks both of you,
Well done Tom, sounds like you are on a winner there, bro
I just want to get her here to meet my two daughters, I think that is important.
She has a stable job, but no real ties to China other than her family.
Anyway, we will find a way.
Actually , this is hilarious...... I got engaged to my ex after two weeks and we were married 18 years . I met her dad on the wedding day, and the last of her sisters three years after the wedding!!! So all the questions they ask are, IMO , a ridiculous joke. Was married 18!hrs, and still couldn't tell you half the stuff they expect you to know about your Chinese bride...............
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Nigel and guys
Good news - my ladies intended spouse visa was approved only 10 weeks after submitting the application. She arrives here on 24th December and we are marrying on 17th February 2012.
The process itself is not difficult. Yes, it takes planning and organising and can be a little time consuming but the end result is clearly worth all of that!
Now that I have been part of a successful process, If I can provide any of you guys with any assistance at all just ask.
Cheers
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Thanks Tom ! Happy to hear that and we appreciate your offering your insights to People in need of it .