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General Discussion and Useful Links => The Campfire => Topic started by: Scottish_Robbie on December 19, 2011, 12:07:09 am
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Ok you wonderful people, except willy of course (hehe)
I got chatting to my youngest son tonight and he mentioned about doomsday and the Nostradamus effect...I did not realise he was that clever to know about such things :-\ Anyway I got reading up on that and have come to the conclusion that nostradamus was either a time traveller or was bloody good at guessing. He has got absolutely nearly everything he predicted right.
his latest prediction is that the world will be hit by a flaning ball of fire in 2012. For those guys who have NOT been to china to sample their delights, and I'm not just talking about the females :o I suggest you go before May, I think this is the deadline for this catrastophic event. If you can get as far away from the shoreline as possible, go high up into the hills making sure you keep away from anywhere that can landslide. Good luck brothers and sisters ;D ;D ;D
I most admit i am not one for shouting anything like this out, but thought I would remind people about it
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Nice one Robbie. I know you are committed to China but I can think of another place you should be committed to. With a straightjacket preferably. ;D ;D
Does my wife know what she is in for when you make that visit to us. :'(
And as for the flaming ball of fire that is the Olympic torch being lit in London next year.
If he was that clever why has he never give me the lottery numbers the day before the draw?
Willy
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Ok you wonderful people, except willy of course (hehe)
I got chatting to my youngest son tonight and he mentioned about doomsday and the Nostradamus effect...I did not realise he was that clever to know about such things :-\ Anyway I got reading up on that and have come to the conclusion that nostradamus was either a time traveller or was bloody good at guessing. He has got absolutely nearly everything he predicted right.
his latest prediction is that the world will be hit by a flaning ball of fire in 2012. For those guys who have NOT been to china to sample their delights, and I'm not just talking about the females :o I suggest you go before May, I think this is the deadline for this catrastophic event. If you can get as far away from the shoreline as possible, go high up into the hills making sure you keep away from anywhere that can landslide. Good luck brothers and sisters ;D ;D ;D
I most admit i am not one for shouting anything like this out, but thought I would remind people about it
NEARLY everything right Robbie ..... :o :o...so we might NEARLY get hit by this flaming thingami....but what if it hits us (nearly) on a hill top...what do we do then...head for the Ocean ;D ;D ;D
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Maybe it will just go for Barrow!
Well your home town is called Barrow in Furness Robbie so we can always change it to Barrow in Furnace. :P
The Hottest Place on Earth! But then I always had it on equal par with Hell. ;D
Poetic Justice I say.
Willy
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The word "predicted" is correct. Nostradamus didn't see or travel to the future. Contrary to his legend, he wrote his predictions in three languages, being afraid of a witch hunt situation. In the decoding of it they "interpreted" such things. I think he knew human nature very well and came up with his writings from that? Now I do not know if he gave the year 2012? His dates on everything else were off or not even close.
Some are reading into some things like the Mayan Calendar to much. It was made till the year 2012 BUT then is to start over at the beginning. For any reason why they failed to mention this? It's a freakin Mayan Calendar? Why would I put my faith into it? Dave E, I thought you would have ran with this one but I see your getting soft? :)
The lady I will be meeting in 2012 had mentioned about the end of the world in 2012 and if I heard? I just told her it would just be a new world for us, not to worry.
What I really think is that I will get to China and the world will STOP. As there will be amazement, unbelief and shock, all setting in that I am there. :o ;D
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I have used this Mayan Calendar with Qing on any situation regarding next year . Remember Sweetheart it will all end in 2012 ! :-\
We are planning to go back to Shanghai at the end of next year , as her Mom will turn 70 yrs. old and her Brother 48 yrs. in 2013 ( year of the Snake ) . I will turn 60 yrs. also a Snake . This will be many reasons to Celebrate . If the World still is in one piece by then ? One good feeling I have about all this Fireball going to hit the Earth , is .. I think it will hit the US right in the middle , as most of the Middle East pray for that to happen .
Anyway , I will NOT load up all my Credit Card's like some People most likely will . haha
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Of course I'm going soft Vince....I am a contented and happily married Man now....got no time or inclination left for bad thoughts, hostility or dumb folks ;D ;D ;D
What I will say however....is that nobody, never, anywhere, anytime has ever produced the slightest shred of testable, scientific proof of any ability whatsoever to see into the future with any level of predictable accuracy.
If you read up on much of the latest science on the studies done on Time itself from a perspective of Quantum Physics, we can see that Time is a 2 way arrow that points both backward and forward, thus everything in the future (within the limits of the Heinsenburgh uncertainty Principle) is predictable........ie, if you break an egg today, Quantum Physics suggests that sometime, somewhere in the future there is a Certainty that that egg will reconstitute itself. This may be 20 seconds into the future, or 200 million years...nobody knows the Math to properly predict when. If you take the Novel "War and Peace" and unbind it into separate pages, then chuck the whole lot into the air, there is a probability that the falling pages will reconstitute the book exactly as it was before !!...but you maybe need to chuck it about 10 X 10 to the 100th power !!! times...but nevertheless, statistically it WILL happen that way...one day.
So you could say that by stating the fact that an egg WILL reconstitute itself and War and Peace will fall in EXACTLY the right order, you are looking into the future....the only part you cant answer is...WHEN
So Nostradamus (and thousands of others like him) could well be said to be able to predict the future...so can I...I will predict with total certainty that the World will come to an end...only problem is...I cant predict when !!!!
Nuff said..I have a headache now, need to get a remedial massage from my Princess ;D ;D ;D
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Nuff said..I have a headache now, ;D ;D ;D
You got a headache NOW. I got that before I finished the first paragraph of explanation. ??? ??? ???
Willy
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Doomsday in 2012?
well, man has just one year remaning, so?
I don't really think that Nostradamus is right, but well... what about if he would had been right?
From what I've read here and there on Internet, the "beginning of the end" would happen because of earthquakes and volcanos between France and Italy. There is an important area that is said to be very dangerous, and that would be as a "falling dominoes" effect. One volcano would awake, then another one, then another one and so on (usw, as man says in Germany :D)
Ok, let's all scare and do many things man wouldn't have been thinking about before?
I don't really think it would happen next year, but well, if it would, I don't really want to change many many things.
My life is quite good, I did what I wanted and I got what I wished about "family", "love", "friends".
Now, about travelling, the deal is the money... what about playing together to a big lottery and win the amazing million $ ? :)
Ok, if Nostra' was right, even with 1 000 000 $ won, man could not spend all the money for anything... but well, that could be enough anyway to go in China and somewhere else before everything ends, right? Plus, maybe all the brotherhood could meet somewhere and have a big dinner with dumplings? :)
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If I knew for sure I would liquidate everything and go spend the remaining days with my lovely in China.
People have been trying to predict the end of this world since the beginning of this world. It is the proverbial dog chasing its tale.
No one knows when not even Maxx or David E.
But gents there will be an end. Uh oh he is getting spiritual! Not really. Every living thing has a beginning and an end. The earth is life. It had a beginning and it will have an end. When will that be? No one knows. Personally I think mankind will end long before the earth does and I think that the earth will die because of mankind.
So what does all of this mean? It mean that you should live your life like it means something.
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I am very fascinated by the whole concept of the life cycle of the Universe....purely for interest.....as far as the Physics go, I am an idiot savant...all a bit beyond me.
But like most people, "why are we here" where are we going", "what's it all about" holds my attention...but not to obsessive levels.
I just finished a book..."The Fabric of the Cosmos, by Brian Greene". It looked like a good read.
If I ever needed further proof that my brain can never get to grips with the Cosmological thing, I will quote ONE paragraph so you can see what I mean...
"The recession speed of a Supernova depends on the difference between the gravitational pull of ordinary matter vs the gravitational push of "dark energy" supplied by the Cosmological Constant. Taking the amount of matter, both visible and dark, to be about 30% of the critical density, the Supernova researchers concluded that the accellerated expansion they had observed required an outward push of a Cosmological Constant whose dark energy contributed about 70% of the critical density. "
I have absolutely no idea what this means...way beyond my capacity to understand.
Maybe we weren't meant to understand it anyway.
I am hoping Maxx or Willy can translate this paragraph for me... ;D ;D ;D
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Simple Dave 30% is you and how you get your way with La Po the 70% is her and if you do not do what she wants you will be 100% in the dog house.
But the earth will not be here one day is a fact. One day in the very distant future the sun will change into a different type of star and swallow the whole solar system as it slowly dies. We all will be a bit of cosmic dust by then so do not worry one bit and enjoy your life every day and most importantly tell your wife you love her everyday.
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But the earth will not be here one day is a fact. One day in the very distant future the sun will change into a different type of star and swallow the whole solar system as it slowly dies. We all will be a bit of cosmic dust by then so do not worry one bit and enjoy your life every day and most importantly tell your wife you love her everyday.
This is why I should buy myself a good size Telescope and check on those Earth-like Object's they always talking about .. if I see any PROPERTY FOR SALE sign up there ?
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David all it says is that since you have to opposing powers.That the universe is constantly expanding and contracting.
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Well Dave I won't make believe I am a scholar of physics but I do know what that book is about. The darkness in space is a matter charged with "strings"* of energy (a gravity) in which helped form the universe. This energy adds to the activities of black holes, supernovas and anything else progressing up there.
*one theory is string type, another theory are a erratic circle. There are many disagreements between the two? human nature.
How I know about this... it's on tonight (PBS)
NOVA
Episode: The Fabric of the Cosmos: The Illusion of Time
(First Aired: Nov. 09, 2011)
A time-traveling adventure moves 50 years into the future, then travels back to the past.
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Simple really. Irresistible force meets immovable object. It is much easier to hold one in all the way around (contraction) than to push ones self out. (expansion) But I like Jason's definition better. ;)
Then again with the Doomsday theory it could nothing more than like child, falls down and goes boom and we are all cosmic dust particles spread throughout billions and billions of years of nothingness. Naaa... Not really!
Like I said before... mankind will kill himself off and then the earth will die.
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I have absolutely no idea what this means...way beyond my capacity to understand.
Maybe we weren't meant to understand it anyway.
I am hoping Maxx or Willy can translate this paragraph for me... ;D ;D ;D
No problem David. My brain has absorbed it and come up with two words. 'Total Bal----ks' Sorry that the nearest I can get.
My head has never got round the universe. To me everything needs a beginning and an end. I can not contemplate a universe with no end (in distance that is) No wonder these brainy fellows go stark raving bonkers.
Understanding the universe is almost on par with understanding immigration but probably a little below understanding the Chinese womans mind. Now that could really drive a man round the bend!
Willy.
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But the earth will not be here one day is a fact. One day in the very distant future the sun will change into a different type of star and swallow the whole solar system as it slowly dies. We all will be a bit of cosmic dust by then so do not worry one bit and enjoy your life every day and most importantly tell your wife you love her everyday.
This is why I should buy myself a good size Telescope and check on those Earth-like Object's they always talking about .. if I see any PROPERTY FOR SALE sign up there ?
To me, most of the things you could see would be some parts of satellites, going away around Earth :D
oh, by the way, don't use your good sizez telescope too much "down" when looking inside, just because you could see something happening to your neighboorhood :D
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See...I knew the Brains Trust here would straighten me out...thanks fellas ;D ;D
I have to say that I lean a bit towards Jason's explanation to be close to the truth of the matter.......
Have not got into the dog house yet at the 100% level...but got close a couple of times....cost me a lot of grovelling to recover the 70:30 situation :-\ :-\
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Now , this had me wondering ! Are we really able to time travel into the Future ?
Let's say , an Object ( Galaxy ) is two million light-years away . We leave Earth ( the light we see is 2 mil. years old ) going to this Object at twice the speed of light , we are now as we get closer .. seeing more and more light from a time not that old .. right ? So , in a way we are going into the Future looking at it that way . Here is where it is all wrong though . Say we get/arrive there and it is NOT even there anymore , all we saw was the light from the past . Now this Object being gone , we are not actually in the Future .. because as we left Earth .. this Galaxy could have been gone already . Thus , we did NOT travel anywhere .. which means .. time itself doesn't even matter or exsist . In other words , time is ONLY a human factor and as soon as you leave Earth .. silch/zero/nada .
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Does time travelling exist? If not, how far do you reacon we are away from it? ;D ;D
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Actually Arnold, you will be travelling to the PAST.....the light you see (and interact with on your journey) will be coming from that distant object for millions of years, so as you pass through each "light package" you will be meeting light that left the object millions of years ago.
But dont sweat...Einstein suggested that it wont work anyway...because of E=MC2....this formula implies that to travel at the speed of light (the limiting speed in the Universe)...you would need to have an infinite Mass. and as you go faster and faster, time will get slower and slower. Never could anything travel faster than light-speed.
It has been conclusively proved that because of their speed, astronauts in orbit are subjected to this slowing of time, so they age slower than us on Earth whilst in orbit. It is only a few micro-seconds, but measurable and provable.
If your far- away Galaxy had ceased to exist at some point, as you travel towards it, it would simply disappear !!!
Having said that, the latest discovery concerns what they call "particle entanglement"....no, it's not a hair product....it is a phenomena that has been measured whereby something that happens to a Quantum Particle, is measured to happen simultaneously to it's entangled partner...even though they are seperated by light years of distance...suggesting somehow that these particles have disobeyed the limits of the speed of light...
Now I have another headache...time for another massage.... ;D ;D ;D
ps..Robbie
I'll just nip to the future to check when time travel to the future is possible.......or maybe nip to the past to check the same...hope I dont run into my parents before they were married...it might put them off...and therefore how could I exist.
Is it possible to go back in time and kill your Father ??????...thinking about that gives me a BIG headache !!
But I have a personal theory that sometime in the distant future, they will invent time travel, but when you go back for your "Time Travel Vacation" it will be vital that you dont touch anything...because by doing something in your past, you might affect your future so you would'nt exist. So the rules will be strictly enforced...look but dont touch.
So for us here we will never see a time traveller...but maybe we will somehow glimpse something about their presence...its what we call Ghosts....thats my theory !!!
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It time travel were possible I would choose to move to the time that Peggy were here with me. Then once that time has actually past travel back. Then I could mesmerize her with all of the future knowledge I had. To solve the problem of the two of me being there at the same time I could prepare her by telling her that I have an evil twin brother who has been know to escape from his mental institution before to be careful because he will insist that he is her husband, avoid him at all cost.
OK OK no wise cracks from ya'll. I am not him and I am not crazy. I am not crazy. I am not crazy. I am not crazy. I forget, how many times do politicians say you have to repeat something before people will believe it? ;D
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I believe time travel may be possible in the future but as we have not been provenly visited by someone from the future then maybe the future did not exist long enough for it to be invented!
Which brings us back full circle to Nostradamus and his predictions for end of the World.
Or life as we know it Captain.
Willy
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ok.. so what about Aliens do they exist? :o
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Robert beat me to it. You want to see Aliens? come on down. All types, shapes and forms right here
badgis? badgis? we dough need no stincin badgis
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Robert you need to get with today's terminology. You have a picture of an undocumented worker or an illegal immigrant not an alien.
Here are 2 examples of aliens;
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Hideous! they look similar? they must come from the same planet or galaxy?
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same momma!!! Ooooo I got the wrong. The same father.
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Think about it?
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Hey Scottish Rob,
Here is a place you need to visit before the end of time! http://www.tiltedkilt.com/ (http://www.tiltedkilt.com/)
Book me on the next flight hahaha ;D ;D ;D
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aha there's one near a buddy of mine, now I know where we can go when over there