China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Ask An Experienced Member => Topic started by: Londoner on July 02, 2009, 03:08:44 pm
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It appears I have fallen fictim to one of the scammers. I have been writing to a girl for nearly a year via EMFs because she just wouldn't give a phone number or personal email address either. You can guess how much money I have spent on EMFs.
Well, to cut a long story short, she has just disappeared without a warning, this happened shortly after I informed her that I was about to visit her. Well, it is obvious why isn't it?
Anyway, I wrote to Chnlove informing them of what happened and requested that they investigate this, well first of all to find out whether this girl actually ever exsisted or not. I just couldn't believe the reply I got. Well, you judge it for yourselves folks.
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Ni Hao! This is Sherry listening to your concern here. I'm very thankful that you could let us know your thoughts, so we could have the chance to address your concern and provide any possible assistance. :-)
I can fully understand your concern. I believe you are very serious in finding your true love and truly hope we could be of help to you. As you know, Chnlove is independent from each local agency as individual companies. We pay the agency who provides EMF delivery services to the Chinese ladies, thus enable free translation as well as professional consultation service to the ladies, making it easier for communication between people of different languages and cultures. Though Chnlove is not involved in the internal business of each agency, we have strict policies and regulations that each agency should deal with EMF service on AS-IS basis and offer quality service to help both male and female members communicate smoothly.
Concerning your communication with Ms SiSi Cheng (P518544), I can see you've contacted her for quite a long time. I guess your nice communication comes from your joint endeavour, right? You may see that our EMF mail only offers an option for you to communicate with your lady, if condition allowed, you may also guide her to contact you in other ways, such as phone or webcam contact. If language is a concern between you, you may discuss with her if she could ask for the help of some translator. Anyway, just now, we have contacted the related agency to deliver your sincerity to her, hopefully to have more info of her condition and thought.
From the past decade, Chnlove has grown to be a responsible company who cares for our clients' needs. We firmly believe that our company's reputation and long-term development is built on the trust of our customers, thus, we've always treasured every single word of comments from the members, as these are impetus which may help to push our service to higher levels. However, recently, we notice that there are persons diffusing negative information against us spitefully. We really appreciate if you could provide us more relative information, such as the web link, so we can forward it to related department to follow up and adopt necessary measures. You may check the link below for more info:
http://www.chnlove.com/help/questions.php?section=6#qid108
We are full of gratitude to have such a distinguished customer like you, and we feel honored to have the chance to be a bridge for you to look for your true love. Also, we would appreciate if you could be a supervisor, valuator and impeller of the agencies' quality service in our site. We believe, with the support from many more honest and responsible customer like you, the service of the agencies and Chnlove can be pushed to a higher level. Through our unremitting effort, we believe that more and more gentlemen and find their happiness and true love in Chnlove.
Thanks again for your attention and kind support to our site. Chnlove will put all the strength in attaining the acknowledgement and recognition from more and more clients. If you need our assistance, we are always here for you.
Kind regards,
Sherry Chu
Chnlove Customer Care
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Well, I wrote another letter back expressing my disappointment, and repeated the two simple questions I asked them in the previous letter. I am sorry to say, the reply was even worse than this. I have now decided to just cut my losses short and move on. I don't think there is any point of asking for a refund. `Oh, and about the girl in question, she wrote back yesterday, obviously after the agency got news that I am in communication with Chnlove, with frankly pathetic excuses saying that her father is seriously ill and she is going home to look after him, I am not convinced. I wrote back wishing her good luck and a speedy recovery for her father. This should be the end of this nonsense as I will be blocking her.
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Yeah, I got the kiss off letter a ways back and similiar such nonsense from Chnlove. Sorry, to hear about it, it hurts but time heals all wounds. Was recently talking to my friend Sandy and we were contemplating about starting up a very basic matchmaking service. She actually knows people that have actually succeeded through Chnlove and figures she knows a lot of women who would be happy to meet up with foreigners. I spent 12 hours with her Friday and think we might have something. Just my thoughts yet I would really like to help out the brotherhood if I could. Starting to network and really feel at ease here. Another thing before I forget one of my students mentioned that he could get guys from his company to translate with no charge at all just to practice thier English skills. It would have to be around Shenzhen because after all they are willing to do it pro bono.
China Shark Mike
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Good work Mike, keep us up to date with any progress on this :)
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Londoner,
"This is some very touching stuff from SiSi:
"What I Am Looking For:
Your height is not the matter to me as long as you are taller than me. I am looking for a loyal and long lasting relationship based on trust, fun, love and faithfulness. He should family-oriented, hard working, and filial to parents.
My perfect day is to watch the sunset and sunrise with you. My perfect night is a candle light dinner and dancing with you. My perfect life is ...
Please hold my hand and work hard together to create our perfect life." I especially like this part, "I dislike dishonest man". What a joke!
There is an another old southern expression, Some people would rather climb a tree and tell a lie, than stand on the ground and tell the truth. Looks like you were misled by one of those people.
If we are being told the truth: That there are plenty of Chinese women looking to find western men, then why does it appear so many get picked off by chickens**t agencies representing or conspiring with bogus women? Go Figure.
I know this isn't supposed to be easy. But the path shouldn't have to be littered with so much trash along the way.
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Londoner, as Mike was saying, Time is the healer of all hurts anf the teller of all truths, or something like that, hahaha, good luck in your hunt for that speacial lady
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Well, to cut a long story short, she has just disappeared without a warning, this happened shortly after I informed her that I was about to visit her. Well, it is obvious why isn't it?
It's quite possible it was just a scam.
Then again, there is a possibility that she just decided she didn't want to go through with it. Lots of people bail out of relationships right at the end, "at the altar" so to speak.
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Speaking for myself, after writing for a year I couldn't let her go so easily. I'd want answers.
My wife said to me once that my problems are her problems and we'll work through them together and find a resolution. I feel it goes both ways so I wonder if you pointed this out to her? I think at the very least I'd get in contact with the agency and try to get some clear answers.
I'd have half a mind to go there anyway and try to get the agency to setup a face to face with her. If that didn't work then meet some while I was there and get some face time with a couple so you leave with some good impressions and a reasonbly good idea who I was writing to going forward.
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I'm with Ed on this Londoner, something is up for sure but a year is a long time to be writing a lady to just give up.
I'd still visit with the aim of meeting her and if not maybe try visiting the agency and meet a few ladies when you are there, you will at worst have some fun on your blind dates and you'll have no regrets afterwards.
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Thank you guys for your input I really appreciate it. I just had a letter from Chnlove, saying that they were very surprised they I acted so hastilly, considering the fact that I was communicating with this girl for so long. Anyway, they have forwarded a letter from Sisi telling that her father suddenly feeling much better and that she is returning to Zhuhai to meet me. Well, she went on to tell me that she has very strong feeling for me bla bla. What surprised me is that she is asking for my number so she can call me tomorrow (allegedly, she has working very hard on her english and been paying for tution)!!!! Oh, she feels disappointed that I think she is fake.
Well, I am still debating whether to unblock her or not. I let you know what happens
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Londoner, if you feel that she is for real go for it yet tread with trepidation. Anymore it is so hard to tell fact from fiction anymore. Hope we're wrong and things do work out for you.
Shark
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Londoner, if you feel that she is for real go for it yet tread with trepidation. Anymore it is so hard to tell fact from fiction anymore. Hope we're wrong and things do work out for you.
Shark
No, I am in no rush at all Mike, thanks mate. Two days ago, this girl told me that her father was seriously ill and was about to have a major surgery (allegedly for second time), but now he seems to have made a sudden recovery!!! I am just not convinced, hence my reluctance to embark on another goose chase.
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Londoner, at least she asked for your phone number, thats different, and if you send it to her, and she calls you, at least its not going to be on your phone bill, so I would say go for it and maybe you can get a better feeling for what is happening......but this is just my 2 cents worth and its only a penny for my thoughts...:icon_cheesygrin:
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Londoner, maybe this is the push the lady needed to get out of the hiding. If it was me, I would give her a chance, maybe a few more weeks to see how it develops. A year is a long time to just throw away. I feel that those ladies are kind of special in such sitiuations, when they have trouble. When we are in trouble, they want us to share it with them as they want to help us to solve it. On the other hand, when they are faced with problems, they hardly share them. Because they do not want us to worry. That might be some of the reason why she was acting that way. That is just a thought! I wish you good luck and I hope it will work out for you!
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Me and my Lady, we share all the problems. If she have a problem she ask me for my opinion and I try to tell her what I think just as I share her with my problems and listen to her thought about it. This developed after I visited her and not before.. I guess she have to feel secure in her relation with you before she will share her problems with another person..
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Just an up date for the Brotherhood; I had another message from Sisi through Chnlove, I am afraid my suspicions have been proven wrong and I am convinced that the girl does exist.
Following my last letter to Chnlove, in which I have expressed my disappointment with their reply, particularly its generic nature and the fact that it failed to answer my specific questions or address my doubts about this girl.
Well, it seems they have finally got their act together and have spoken to all the parties involved including the girl and the agency. For a change, they told me what enquiries they made and what they have found out, I am happy to give them credit for this.
May be just simple advice is all they need in terms of how we like them to deal with our enquiries. For example, cutting out all that annoying bull shit and simply saying these are the people we have spoken to, these are the questions we have asked and these are the answers we have got for you.
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Wow, Londoner, I can almost feel your disappointment from here. I can understand your doubt, the fact that she (probably) lied to you about her father is not a very good sign. Lying shows disrespect. Maybe you'll work this out anyway, I think it's worth a shot since you've had contact with her for such a long time (at the same time, don't let her treat you anyway she likes.)
Good luck, Londoner, whatever you decide to do!
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Sorry to hear about your problems LONDONER
I have had my own - The lady I came to visit decided I was not the one for her and following a brilliant weekend when we went through our plans she told me I was not the one for her - I have founfd from the agency that before I came on the scene she had been conversing with a Guy in USA for 2 years - then she ditched him by sms text telling him she was going to marry me. Probably has another one on the go now.
Mind you I since met a stunner who was introduced to me by a friend here in Zhuihai and maybe all has worked for the best.
Willy the Londoner
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Go for it Willy. Just make it your best trip ever no matter what happens.
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I am sorry to hear this Willy, it is wonderful that you have decided to move on, and after all have met some one you like. Good luck with your new girl and enjoy holiday
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Us Londoners, ....are a resourceful bunch, knock us down, and we come back fighting. When a woman knocks us down, it don't take long before were out and about sniffing around for the next one. ....hahahaha!!
Well done Willy mate, better luck this time!!
Willy,
You know, i think a friend of mine here in Cyprus, was corresponding with your ex about 6 months or so ago. The name and her location in China certainly rings a bell anyway. He's on a trip in Egypt at the moment, so when he gets back.... I'll ask him. Was she some sort of doctor, or something medical ??
David......
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We (Londoners) certainly can't be accused of being gullible. haha
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It appears I have fallen fictim to one of the scammers. I have been writing to a girl for nearly a year via EMFs because she just wouldn't give a phone number or personal email address either. You can guess how much money I have spent on EMFs.
Well, to cut a long story short, she has just disappeared without a warning, this happened shortly after I informed her that I was about to visit her. Well, it is obvious why isn't it?
Anyway, I wrote to Chnlove informing them of what happened and requested that they investigate this, well first of all to find out whether this girl actually ever exsisted or not. I just couldn't believe the reply I got. Well, you judge it for yourselves folks.
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Ni Hao! This is Sherry listening to your concern here. I'm very thankful that you could let us know your thoughts, so we could have the chance to address your concern and provide any possible assistance. :-)
I can fully understand your concern. I believe you are very serious in finding your true love and truly hope we could be of help to you. As you know, Chnlove is independent from each local agency as individual companies. We pay the agency who provides EMF delivery services to the Chinese ladies, thus enable free translation as well as professional consultation service to the ladies, making it easier for communication between people of different languages and cultures. Though Chnlove is not involved in the internal business of each agency, we have strict policies and regulations that each agency should deal with EMF service on AS-IS basis and offer quality service to help both male and female members communicate smoothly.
Concerning your communication with Ms SiSi Cheng (P518544), I can see you've contacted her for quite a long time. I guess your nice communication comes from your joint endeavour, right? You may see that our EMF mail only offers an option for you to communicate with your lady, if condition allowed, you may also guide her to contact you in other ways, such as phone or webcam contact. If language is a concern between you, you may discuss with her if she could ask for the help of some translator. Anyway, just now, we have contacted the related agency to deliver your sincerity to her, hopefully to have more info of her condition and thought.
From the past decade, Chnlove has grown to be a responsible company who cares for our clients' needs. We firmly believe that our company's reputation and long-term development is built on the trust of our customers, thus, we've always treasured every single word of comments from the members, as these are impetus which may help to push our service to higher levels. However, recently, we notice that there are persons diffusing negative information against us spitefully. We really appreciate if you could provide us more relative information, such as the web link, so we can forward it to related department to follow up and adopt necessary measures. You may check the link below for more info:
http://www.chnlove.com/help/questions.php?section=6#qid108
We are full of gratitude to have such a distinguished customer like you, and we feel honored to have the chance to be a bridge for you to look for your true love. Also, we would appreciate if you could be a supervisor, valuator and impeller of the agencies' quality service in our site. We believe, with the support from many more honest and responsible customer like you, the service of the agencies and Chnlove can be pushed to a higher level. Through our unremitting effort, we believe that more and more gentlemen and find their happiness and true love in Chnlove.
Thanks again for your attention and kind support to our site. Chnlove will put all the strength in attaining the acknowledgement and recognition from more and more clients. If you need our assistance, we are always here for you.
Kind regards,
Sherry Chu
Chnlove Customer Care
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Well, I wrote another letter back expressing my disappointment, and repeated the two simple questions I asked them in the previous letter. I am sorry to say, the reply was even worse than this. I have now decided to just cut my losses short and move on. I don't think there is any point of asking for a refund. `Oh, and about the girl in question, she wrote back yesterday, obviously after the agency got news that I am in communication with Chnlove, with frankly pathetic excuses saying that her father is seriously ill and she is going home to look after him, I am not convinced. I wrote back wishing her good luck and a speedy recovery for her father. This should be the end of this nonsense as I will be blocking her.
I have several copies of the same form letter they send it to everyone that has a problem They are not very smart I had them on the run for a little while but have gone ahead and am allowing them a false sense of security for the time being. Once my business is done well all I will be able to tell them is that I never break a promise, and I must say I made them several promises.
Best I can tell you brother you will get more help from the guys here than you will from chnlove, Chnlove must believe it is going to cost them money before they will do anything. You must attack the agency through chnlove and not let up on them not even for a day and you will see a result the agency I went after still is not being allowed to add new ladies to the site and the translator leo was fired and is hoping that I never come to china.
Just a matter of how much time you want to put into it . Im retired and have a lot of time on my hands as for ;leo the translator I will be in china in a few months. hehe
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Londoner,
What part of London are you from??
David......
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Londoner,
What part of London are you from??
David......
East London, near Canary Wharf. What about you?
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Londoner,
Originally from south east, ...Peckham , .... Not very savoury now, so i'm told.. but havent lived in London for years now , moved to Essex when i was around 5 or 6. But still have loads of relatives in and around London, mainly around the Crystal palace /Dulwich areas...
David.....
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I hope Willy is alright, there is a big typhoon in Zhuhai since yesterday. I am told everybody is staying indoors at the moment.
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I hope Willy is alright, there is a big typhoon in Zhuhai since yesterday. I am told everybody is staying indoors at the moment.
Well I got off the phone from my woman in Zhuhai just now, and she says it has been raining, but she didn't mention a typhoon. She went out shopping with her mother and one of their little traditions at the end of their shopping trips is to have their feet massaged. Man it would be good to be having my feet and legs massaged, over there, with the two of them. Eight weeks to go and that's where I'll be . . . alright!!!!!!!!
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Londoner,
Don't worry, been through score's of typhoon 7 to 10s, in Hong kong, there more than use to them in that part of China, they get at least 3 a year and often more, of typhoon 3s. Everyone normally goes home from work at typhoon 3 warning, Buses and trains stop, in HK the cross harbour tunnel was closed, the cross harbour and other ferry's stop. It's just precautionary measures.
We used to rub our hands together when Typhoon 3 warnings were broadcast..... another day off work. hahahaha!!
Hong Kong has a warning system in place, and give a number indication to the severity from T1 through to T10+
David.....
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I hope Willy is alright, there is a big typhoon in Zhuhai since yesterday. I am told everybody is staying indoors at the moment.
Hi everyone
Think it was a bit windy in the night!! I think it hit Hong Kong more than here. But we were safely wrapped up in bed listening to the wind and rain - and it was great.
Willy
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Willy,
Too Much Information...... hahaha!!
David....