China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => Newbies Corner => Topic started by: David E on August 07, 2009, 02:20:41 am
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Can I add a bit of “dry” psychology to the ever present question of falling in love….
Psychologically, we Men are Testosterone fuelled “hunters”. However much we try to disguise this fact in the modern quest for equality and the political correctness of being a “Sensitive New Age Guy - SNAG”, deep down in our “rat brain, the very primitive part of our brain, we are a hunter.
On the other hand, by the same equation, our Womenfolk are the “gatherers and nurturers”, like it or not , we both operate at different ends of the psychological spectrum.
To even out this opposing make up in Men and Women, nature invented Pheromones……..these are the unseen, subtle but very real chemical signals that pass between people continually…their presence and importance has been clearly and scientifically established.
Pheromone exchange between Men is highly specific…that is why the average guy does not feel physically attracted to all the other guys he meets during the course of a day. This exchange is about the ability to like or not like another Man (not sexaully I mean). I am sure you know that some blokes you meet seem Ok, some not. On average, pheromone exchange compatibility for both Men and Women is fairly neutral…would be a weird world if we either loved or hated each person we met, with nothing in between these states of mind !!
Same goes for Women who meet other women under normal circumstances.
The pheromone exchange between Men and Women, however is totally different…it is all about Partner selection and the ability to be a good gene match for the future of the species.
The better the pheromone match, the stronger the feelings….period.
In fact, a VERY strong pheromone match leads to the consequence of “love at first sight”….bet you thought it was a fairy tale …yes ?
To get to the crunch here…….Men can have good feelings about a letter, a word, a photo, and that is good. But the ultimate pheromone match and the result being falling in love can ONLY be achieved by an exchange of pheromones that can only be achieved by a face to face meeting.
So…if you think you are in love after letters and photos…think again…chemically you cant be.
You may dispute what I write here, but it is factual science…worth a read ??
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David, in my humble opinion, you might know a lot about the chemical composition of pheromones, but establishing the way that they interact with one's conscious mind, emotions and wishes is another thing entirely. For the sake of argument, I allow that they have some (weak) influence, but you seem to suggest that they have a strong influence. If that's your contention then I would suggest that what you are claiming is implausible, to say the least. Humans in society are not simply agents of chemicals, nor of their genes or anything else that relies on a simple, mechanical model of causation. People act on the basis of a incredibly large number of influences, only one of which is pheremones. These influences all interact with each other in an impossibly complex fashion. One cannot choose any one of these influences and say it was certainly this one that caused this particular behaviour.
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David, Danny, I for one do believe that there has to be a physical connection, a bonding, touch, look at each other face to face, what ever you want to call it, in know for certain that you are in love with a woman. With the woman I have been talking with since April, the only communication we've had is by EMT and pictures. Now I think she is the one but until I see her, feel her, (now watch it, don't think what you are thinking, remember I am a preacher) touch her, see how we interact together, and see how our Chemistry together is, I will not know it we are truly in love with each other.
Danny with every natural law you can and will find an exception to it but it does not change the natural law. Man is a visual animal and it can only be a reality for him once he has seen and touched it. This why chnlove spends so much time taking incredible pictures of women to post on their site. They know we are visual oriented and the agency used their agents to attract us or to lure us in and then once we are caught they turn over the writing to the woman we re talking to.
This is a unique hunting game we play in that we actually get to know the lady before we go in for the kill so to speak. If we were approaching women in our own country, in the city where we live the hunt would be quite different. The hunt I am doing right now is much more intriguing, not because she is beautiful, not because she is mysterious, not because she is Chinese, nor because she is more feminine but because I am getting to know her before the physical side kicks in. The beauty, mystery, Chinese, and feminine are real important and for me necessary but the hunt is different because I am getting to know her mind. That is incredible. I think I am in love but will not know until we touch.
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Shaun,
I agree with you, nothing is for certain till you have met, and even then things can go pear shaped.
General....
I have consistently tried to bring this point home to some of the guy's here, that think, after a couple of months or more of writing EMF's, pictures, and a bit of web-caming they are ''In Love''. ....There then flying off to get married.
I know we all need to take a leap of faith, here and there in our lives, but as far as i'm concerned that would be one hell of a foolish leap too many.
As the end game is all about finding your last love in this life, wouldn't it be be worth putting in a little extra time, getting to know our lady first?? All marriages, need a solid foundation on which that marriage can flourish and grow....
It has to be so much better all round to go visit her, on your first trip to China, to see if all those chemical things are intact, if the passion is there, and that physical connection (i'm not just talking sex here) which is so, so important to any long lasting relationship.
It really needs some of the married guys here, to talk about life with there new Chinese wife after they have them home in their own countries. I think you'll find it's not quite the same, as some will imagine.
You will hear that there are still things that are being learnt by both parties, and confusion will reign for sometime. Don't get me wrong, most of it will give amusement. The point i'm trying to make is that you will still be learning about each other long after you have them home, it doesn't stop when you tie the knot so to speak. The romantics among you, will have the a more difficult time of it. Why?? because the Chinese lady will be far more down to earth being a new wife, sure the romance will still be there, but it won't be, in her mind anywhere near as important as some of you will still want it to be. ...So let's hear from these married guys here, let them tell you what they have noticed since being in a family situation!!!
Don't Rush into anything you don't fully understand, especially when your dealing with a completely different culture to your own.... God forbid!!, ...you may just get your fingers burned!!
David.....
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Danny
Sorry mate...it all starts with chemistry...like it or not, even the brain is a huge and complex chemical processing factory. Every thought, wish, emotion and experience is based on micro chemical activity in the brain.
These are chemically driven, after which, history, social conditioning, personal experience and many other behavioural elements take their part. Even a single thought is a chemical process..dopamine and serotonin acting on individual Neurones !!
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I'm a firm beleaver in Making at least one trip.Before you and the lady decide to get married.Because the physical attraction part must be there.The compatability,the touch.Like David E and David 50 said it all must be there.And yes it is a chemical reaction in the brain.
The first trip to China me and my wife wrote letters for 2 months no webcam.I fly to China spend ten days with her in China.We get engaged all this happens in the first part of May.As soon as I return to the states I start on the visa aplication.We set up private emails .Emails once a day web cam 2 times a day.
August I return to China we have a party we are married in her family mind.Return to the states same email web cam scedule as before.I go to China a couple of more times.
March she recieves her visa comes to the states.The real fun starts here.I now have a Chinese women that lives in my home.She's tired hungry the smell from my food makes her sick.She understands very little of my customs and my culture.She is real homesick after 2 months.This is not a pretty piucture.She is always a step out of the norm.SHe always wants me to explain whats going on the tv.She can't get used to the lack of people.
Time marches on the food is ok.She has decided that she likes it with very few people.SHe has adjusted to the alttitude.We have a son.In public we are just like any other married couple in private we are just like any other married couple.SHe is watching cartoons with the boy while they eat.I'm writing this while watching the time on the computer so I'm not late to work.
There is no goldon light that comes down from the sky and says hey you made this.There is no bags of gold thrown at my feet.There is no corney theme song playing in the background. Its Just everyday life.You wake up go to work.Come home talk to the wife play with the boy.Watch the tv eat.Go to bed and do it all over again the next day.
The good times are in between all the life stuff.The joy of seing your son born.Eating noodels at a restraunt in China.Being able to understand what your wife is saying to her mother.Knowing that you have seen more things and done more things then the average person will ever do.The pure joy of watching tv while your wife sets on your legs and is whispering Chinese in your ear.
Thats what it's all about the moments in between all the life stuff.Would I do it all again spend all that money make all those long flights to China.Yes sign me up I want to be the first one in line.
Good luck guys.Just remember the 2 most important rules #1 different country different customs.24 hour rule Learn it love it live it
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In reply to Maxx; I agree with the theme of your note. I see that the main focus in on getting to know he lady, getting to china, getting engaged, getting married, getting the visa, getting her here, and then ..... I believe that those who live in major cities are at an advantage with this issue. I have done some checking and here in Greensboro North Carolina I have found that there is a local chinese community. There are over 300 members that are from China. There is a local Asian food store that has many of the food items found in a local store in China. It is not enough to find, communicate, and marry a lady; attention has to be focused on what happens after the wedding like Maxx pointed out. I think that this is an area that needs more discussion and thought.
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David I agree to some extent - I believe the chemical analogy is not love at first site but lust at first site. This strong attraction is what sets the stage for the possibility for a relationship to develope. And the following relationship is what generates the emotion we call Love.
Many arranged marriages by pass the chemical processes of first physical attraction and generates deep love by the sharring of raising a family.
As David5o has stated - I also wonder how my wife and I will feel about each other once being with each other under the same roof. Right now with our brief visits the physical part of our relationship is dominate. But in time this boiling pot will probably simmer. I am wiser because of the leasons learnt from my first marriage and I believe that "True Love" is not found but instead, "True Love" is created. That means keeping our marriage sound is proactive challenge not a reactive challenge. Love is an investment - not a winfall.
Lust can come from 1 beer to many so I guess Mixology is also a chemical action. But Love is not chemical but is Energy. E= MC2
Energy = Married Chinese raises my power by two
Great post Maxx - yes its the daily grind that makes or breaks a relationship. Sorry I stole this next line from a comercial - " The flip side of a Rut is a Groove"
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Rhonald,
I beg to differ on the arranged marriage side of things. I have personally known far to many of these arranged marriages that don't work at all, they are still together only because of local / religious laws and customs. Far too many Westerners point to the arranged marriage system as one that works for the majority, ....I know that it doesn't, it works for the few, or the minority.
I've witnessed this from India to Indonesia, it's a total myth that's been put about mainly by the Asians living in our native countries.....
David.....
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VERY possibly Mike...lol
Lust at first sight is what attracts one person to the other, Love as Rhonald says is CREATED...
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I agree with Maxx completely. My wife and I did the same thing, wrote for a few months, met in person for 10 days, get engaged, continue to call and write, go back, get married, talk even more often, return to visit her and her family, talk even more before the visa is issued, then she comes her on 23 August. Guys, Maxx is one of the guys who knows this whole process, you can take what he says to heart. He knows his stuff.
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Yes I agree Feisnik - Maxx has the most experience for us to learn from, especially because of his two golden rules - Maxx Rules.
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Max,
I have read your post here, and can agree with the points you made, especially it being a normal day to day life, and the bit's in-between the normal stuff, are what makes it all special.
Those initial days when she first arrived in her new home, there i think you glossed over that period a little too easily..haha!! You didn't mention for argument's sake, the Chinese new wife syndrome (for want of a better description) Where there mindset changes from being a girlfriend/ fiance to becoming a live-in wife. When there mindset changes, ... to become overall concerned for the health of the family and it's well being. That's when the culture thing kicks in, where they assume almost everything concerning the family, rarely if ever asking, as they assume you already know this and that ,and why she is doing what she's doing. The truth is ...You don't!! ....It took me weeks, to get her to ask or tell me about things, and generally discuss things like food, housekeeping, cleaning, clothes washing, just general stuff like that. The times they take things the wrong way, when you try and help with cleaning the house, or put some washing on, in the machine. In fact, anything to do with the home. They consider that, is there domain and business, and not yours to interfere with....
It's as if they take on this different personality, when it comes to looking after her family, but come evening time, when the the days work and the chores are all done. They then can revert back to that loving sensuous woman that you fell in love with.
I've now been living with Lucy 3 years now, 2 here in Cyprus and a year in China. Most of the things we found strange in each other and in our ways, are now past, but still every now and again something will pop-up that will confound us..... lol!!
There's heaps more to be told, but i want other married guy's here to give there experiences of that newly married life..... because it sure is different to anything they will experience on there short trips to China. ....before and after being married!!
David.....
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I am with Shaun on this one.
Most of you know my story. Was in contact with a lady, spoke to her on telephone for at least an hour every day for months. Emfs, emails etc. We knew just about everything about each other. We planned our lives for the next ten years and more. We meet and within less than two weeks we realised that we were missing that chemistry, whatever it was, we was missing it.
I say wait until you meet because before you are face to face you cannot say you are in love. You may be in love with an image or a voice but you cannot be in love with the person without that personal contact.
And David - I understand what you say about trying to helpthem - they just want to do what they think is there tasks without interference and they expect the man to take control of the important things. I once suggested to my girl that we would be on equal basis when making decisions - she did not like this at all - decisions were to be my domain.
Willy
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Willy,
If only it were that simple, Believe me it will drive you MAD not knowing what' is going on. eventually you just have to ask!! haha!! They tend not to tell you anything that's going on, from making arrangements to go to a friends BBQ, to friends comming round to us. They tend to wait until it's too late to do anything about it ..... just you wait and see for yourself later on!!....hahaha!!
David....
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They tend to wait until it's too late to do anything about it ..... just you wait and see for yourself later on!!....hahaha!!
David....
So I guess they follow the rule that it is better to ask for forgiveness then to ask for permission.
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Rhonald
Rhonald my friend, you have it all to come!!
Remember Scott's epic journey, ....i was laughing to myself reading his story as it unfolded, They just expect you to follow, what they have arranged never thinking about telling you what those arrangements are.
Thank god, that has got sorted out where Lucy is concerned, it really does drive you up the wall, being left in the dark. Especially for someone like me, i Need to know what's going on, i hate having things sprung on me at the last moment..... Grrrrr!!!! hahaha!!
David.....
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So what comes first .... LOVE or the PHEROMONES
HAHA...pheromones must come first...or you couldnt fall in love :):)
But if your honey floods you with pheromones and you dont send back an equal flood , then you have a problem. But if you both have a good pheromone match....WOOOOOOOOW !!!
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I am still learning things to do and not do, I remember the first day after she and Lili moved in, Zhou doesn't like drinking of booze, yeah, I had a bottle of 50 year old brandy on a shelve when I went to work and when I got home 10 hours later it was gone, when I looked in the trash there it was, empty, I was thinking, WTH??, and when I askeed her what had happened to it she said that it was not healthy so she got ride of it for me :huh:.
I have learned that if she THINKS it isnt good for you or the family then shut your mouth and smile, you wont win this one.
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David yes I probably did gloss over that to quick.I remember the first time I started cleaning the house.My wife stares at me for 5 minutes.Then runs off into the bedroom crying.When I get her calmed down.She tells me that she is a bad wife.Because I Have to help her clean the house.I had to explain to her different country different customs.That I was not thinking about it and I wasn't madd.Because I had to clean the house.
Your lady telling you what they have planned.Was a big big issue with us.She has finnaly learned to tell me what she has planned.
The one that got me was.I was working outside the house.And she wanted to come and help.I wouldn't let her help because she was pregnant and I didn't want her to fall and hurt herself.Of course she didn't listen she came outside 5 minutes latter all bundeld up.And I couldn't talk her into going back into the house.
I finnaly got her to go into the house.And after I finished up.I asked her why.She insisted on helping.She said that in China if the wife didn't help. the husband would be very angry.I asked her even when the wife is pregnant.She said yes.That just blew my mind.I told her latter that it was ok in America she didn't have to help while she was pregnant.
The other wierd one is staying in bed for a month after the baby is born.Not washing your hair for a week after the baby is born.And nothin cold to drink or eat.When it is that time of the month.
David I don't know about you but everyday is still a learning experience for me.
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Well, here is the thing..... we are very much in love, and phermones do not travel by way of email letters.... :)
If she floods me with phermones, then I will flood right back .... sparks are going to fly .... is how I would describe it, right now .... but we will see...
Mike
I have puzzled long and hard whether I should reply to your words, and indeed if I should reply at all….because we all have our own views about the quest for a Chinese beloved and we will all make our own way towards this goal.
I briefly aired my previous experience in Chengdu here and was so glad that I was not the only one who had been taken for a ride.
That lady and I shared hundreds of EMF’s, hundreds of private emails, hours and hours on the Web-cam and ditto on phone calls.
By the time I was ready to go to China I was overwhelmed about my feelings for this woman…my life was finally complete, I had found my “Princess” and was totally elated and committed…..and so was she…as I absolutely believed at the time.
From the moment of our meeting I was shocked (understatement) that this woman could turn out to be such an unprincipled, outright B****H. She was a snarly, arrogant , money hungry monster who treated me as an ATM and held all my views and behaviours in total contempt. And I am not a slob, or an animal, I am an very educated, mature, successful and very decent Man…as I am sure you are.
What I learned in the worst possible way is that NOTHING prepares us for an actual meeting and NEVER could I ever again convince myself that I was in love with any woman unless I had met her and slowly let love happen between us…… or not.
I can tell you , my fellow Bro, that I still have pain from that experience and I have only decided to have another try because I have been able to get the whole thing in context and perspective by listening and reading all the great information here. I don’t say for one moment, God forbid , that your Lovely has any intentions to be dishonest with you, or that she doesn’t feel exactly as she says in her words to you.
If you are the lucky one who has got all this love, and future and commitment from a set of non-physical communications, then you are indeed a very lucky man.
But I have only one use to other Bros on this forum and that is to do my damdest to stop anyone finding that the reality blasts the emotional bottom out of your World. And I still say….keep a little lid on emotions, give yourself a bit of protection, don’t leave yourself wide open for a blast.
Written with the very best intentions and concern for all Bros embarking on this difficult, complex, yet potentially life changing journey.
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By the time I was ready to go to China I was overwhelmed about my feelings for this woman…my life was finally complete, I had found my “Princess” and was totally elated and committed…..and so was she…as I absolutely believed at the time.
I really appreciate you talking about this experience. That puts your comments here into perspective for me. I think if I had something like that happen to me then I would tell my friends to be careful too. Having read about your experience, it puts what you have written in other places in a different light. What an experience to go through. Thanks for this.
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Willy,
If only it were that simple, Believe me it will drive you MAD not knowing what' is going on. eventually you just have to ask!! haha!! They tend not to tell you anything that's going on, from making arrangements to go to a friends BBQ, to friends comming round to us. They tend to wait until it's too late to do anything about it ..... just you wait and see for yourself later on!!....hahaha!!
David....
I know exactly what you mean. Being told at 10.45 that we are meeting someone at 11 for China tea. Thought that was just my girl! So now I can let her off what i thought was eccentricity!!!
Willy
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I really appreciate you talking about this experience. That puts your comments here into perspective for me. I think if I had something like that happen to me then I would tell my friends to be careful too. Having read about your experience, it puts what you have written in other places in a different light. What an experience to go through. Thanks for this.
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Danny
Appreciate your words.............................nobody should go through that experience..would not wish it on any Bros. So my quest is to help others to keep it in reality until you are certain about each other....after a face-to-face !!
Cheers...David E
Bros
And so it begins...again.....
Here is an extract of part of the latest letter I got from "herself"...
"And then i found you , A very special man that showed me what love is really like. You have turned my heart of stone into clay, you have made me believe in true love and made me whole again, you complete my life and make me believe in myself. I think of you always and cannot get you out of my head. I feel my heart beating for you. I can feel my blood running through my veins inspired by your love. You have become a part of me and created my heart. You are the air i breath and the reason i live. You are my Price, I will forever honor you and give you all my love, I will always be loyal to you¡¡"
Now, what red-blooded Man, looking for his true love could fail to be moved by such words............but.....who wrote them, what is the real agenda....should cynicism again override such beautiful sentiments...should hormones overtake pheromones....????
Despite all my misgivings, i cant help but get drawn in by such a letter (and that was only part of it)...especially when it comes from someone who I have some good feelings about.
I have NOT talked to her about "love", but I have discussed every other topic under the sun, talked about my life, my family my City, my home, my hopes and my "dreams"...................
HELP............!!!!!
David E
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David what Danny said about putting your other posts into perspective i can now totally agree...
I am one of those people that fell in 'lust' with an image, however, since getting to know Keren i have fallen in LOVE with her....I am going over with the intention of marrying this lady, but I have made one proviso 'IN MY HEAD', I intent to be prepared for the unexpected, which is why I decided to also teach there, if it goes belly up then I have something to occupy my mind until i am able to get back in the saddle...
What you say does make a lot of sense, but no two people are the same, sometimes you have to make mistakes to grow...
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Maxx,
Yeah, there the sort of things i'm talking about. I think the worst of all, is not knowing the plans she had made, That really bugged me big time!! ...hahaha!! But now, like yours she has learned to tell me, well in advance. haha!!
Yes i know what you mean about them wanting to help with, whatever the man is doing, eg building erecting things. I erected a 1.25m high slated fence on top of my boundary wall at the rear of our house, for a bit of privacy around the pool area. She insisted on helping with that, so i let her apply the wood preserver/stain to all the wood, before i started building it. She also helped by holding planks of wood in place while i screwed them to the posts. ...Actually, i really enjoyed the company (and the help) while erecting that fence, wouldn't mind doing it all over again!! ...hahaha!! In fact I think i used that exercise, to support me helping her in the home, ....if she could help me, then there's no reason why i couldn't help her here and there!!
Haven't experienced the pregnancy/baby thing, and haven't noticed the no cold drinks/food when it's that time of month. The first , because were too old and decrepit to start having children. ..lol!! I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's still an every day learning experience, but things still crop up from time to time. When we look back over some of the things that have happened between us, we look at each other and just burst out laughing. ...But some weren't so funny at the time!! ...haha!!
Maxx, I'm not sure how many guys on this Forum, now have there wives at home with them. But i think it would be an interesting and informative Thread for the new guys and even more so for the guy's that are married, but are still waiting for there wives Visa to come through..... at least they will have some idea of what awaits them. ...hahaha!!
As you say, I would do it all over again, without a second thought, for the benefits have always outweighed any difficulties we went through.
I must admit, I've never used these two rules of yours, but i have always used the golden rule, ''Never go to sleep with a cloud hanging over your heads'' And we never have!!
Used that rule all my life as a married man with my late wife, it hasn't failed me/us ...... Not Once!!
David......
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David, I think thats a great idea, we could give the newbies and those waiting a look at what they may expect after thier wives/girlfriends get here.
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MM,
Yeah, something to look foreward too ...hahaha!!
David....
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we'd have to be careful not to scare some of them off LOL.
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MM,
I take it, your wife is pretty much used to Western ways by now. But i guess your not too used to her Chinese ways just yet. hahaha!! I wish i could have seen your face when you saw that empty bottle of 50 yr old Brandy.... now i bet that would have made a great picture .....hahaha!!
I'm a bit surprised actually, the chinese look at brandy as a sort of medicine,...... or maybe that's just the Chinese Male population!! ....hahaha
David......
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Zhou's ex was a drunkerd and beat her when ever he drank so no booze what so ever in our house, and yeah you should have seen the briuse on my chin after it hit the floor
And I still wouldn't change a thing, she's my life :heart: :icon_cheesygrin:
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MM,
I think that's what they call ''GOB SMACKED'' ... yep, that would have been a picture worth seeing to be sure!!
You know, I've never seen the point in getting pissed. Cost a good wack, and all you get from it is a bloody big hangover. Perhaps because i've never drank much, even in my hey days. Even now i have plenty of booze in the house .... but it'll probably still be there 5 years or more from now. Now, funnily enough, Lucy likes a glass of wine with her evening meal, and will maybe have one while sitting watching the tv. Me, i will maybe have a small larger with a dash of lime cordial.... that'll be my lot, after that ...it's coffee ...gallons of the stuff haha!!
David....
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yeah I know what you mean David, that bottle sat for 8 years on the same shelf no great loss except I was going to open it when we have our 25th, oh well maybe I can find another and hide it in the garage Haha.
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For my late Wife's and my 25th Anni. , I got a Tattoo in Orleans . Haha ... nobody throw's that away ... unless I'm still attached .
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David !!!!!
Lager with lime cordial !!!!!!!!....OMG....it is punishable by death in Aus...dont ever say those words if you visit here...the Lager Police will arrest your A** instantly. :):):)...can only buy such an illegal drug in secret places (hahahaha)
David
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Lol David e they do allsort to the lager here you can have lager and black wich is toped off with blackcurrant or a lager top wich has a splash of lemonade in it and yes they realy know how to spoil a good lager hey lol.
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Common Guy's , in Germany half " yes half " the Beer drinker's add Coke to their Beer . No ... let me say they do it for you at any Bar . I know , you will say they all crazy to do that to a good german Beer , especially here in the states . Their favorite reply is ... why don't you add Milk to your Beer instead ... it's the same . I don't say nothing , just enjoy drinking my Beer and Coke ( half and half ) . Oh sooo good , if you only knew ?
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In Ireland, some mix lemonade with beer (half and half) ... it is not as bad as it may sound
In Australia, women used to drink that. It's called a shandy. Whether or not it tastes good, no self respecting man would drink it. If you're a bloke, better to drink straight lemonade than a shandy.
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THats telling them....wimps...I'm with you Danny :):):)
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Nooooooooo mike dont do it lol and heres a mix for you a drink called black velvet Guinness and champagne or for the poor man he use Babysham instead of champagne if i remember right my dad used to drink it alot when he was in the army back in the early 50s.
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Hahahaha, You can call me whatever you like, i'm basically not a drinker... It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if i could never have alcohol again. The lime in a Larger makes it a refreshing drink. That's what i drink on hot sunny days, sitting around the swimming pool, inbetween the dips in the pool and lazing on the loungers... Suites Me, Sir!! lol!!
Now Coffee, that's a whole different subject.... i drink gallons of the stuff. When feeling a bit under the weather i throw in a brandy or a whiskey tot for good measure.... lol!!
David.....
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Ahhh a hot todie
usually done with tea and whiskey when your feeling under the weather...
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My mate always called in to a pub around 5am in the morning at Smithfield Meat Market. He always had a glass of milk with whiskey in it.
This was the only alcoholic drink I have ever known him to have.
Willy
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My dad recommends tea with whiskey as the cold cure-all :P
Personally I don't drink anymore ... except coffee
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OMG Guys....!!
We start here with a thread about serious stuff , to do with emotions and such....end up having an intense discussion about beer and various alcoholic beverages :):):)
I told you we were testosterone fuelled hunters.......:):)
I guess we got our priorities right (LOL).....NOT !!
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Mike,
It's called Shandy, not Shanty!! You yanks always screw around with established English!! haha!!
You even had to bring out your own dictionary, cause you couldn't spell the correct words in the real Dictionary.
One word that always gives me a chuckle, every time i here a Yank say it... and that's ''vehicle' ...you can't seem to say it as a single word, you always have to break it down into syllables to say it.
...ve hic le ...hahaha!!
David....
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you always have to break it down into syllables to say it.
...ve hic le
'Sounds like some Bro' shouldn't worry about the "hic" in that spelling :D
(kidding)
(not sure for you, but in France, the "hic" is also associated to man who can drink alcohol, and who is under effect of it, even if a bit ;)
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Mike,
It's called Shandy, not Shanty!! You yanks always screw around with established English!! haha!!
You even had to bring out your own dictionary, cause you couldn't spell the correct words in the real Dictionary.
One word that always gives me a chuckle, every time i here a Yank say it... and that's ''vehicle' ...you can't seem to say it as a single word, you always have to break it down into syllables to say it.
...ve hic le ...hahaha!!
David....
And that from a person who goes outside when it is pissing!!!!
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The word that does my head in (American ) Que....(Ours) Queue....lol
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Rob,
Be thankful it's acutally got a ''U'' in it.... the Yanks don't tend to like words with u in them, so they brought out there own dictionary, ..... and got rid of em!!....lol!!
David....
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Yeah we hardly even say que (or queue or queueue or queueueue), we say "line up" or "get in line"!
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Vince,
as far as you lot are concerned your right, ... We learned how to spell correctly at school, direct from the Oxford Dictionary..... not i'm afraid from that abortion you call the Websters Dictionary!! hahaha!!!
David.....
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Vince,
Even i don't come out with that, not unless i'm at some posh Doo. I reckon that the machine has a buckshee Japanese or Chinese version of English language program, running on it...... lol!!
David....