China Romance
General Discussion and Useful Links => The Campfire => Topic started by: Scottish_Rob on August 12, 2009, 12:19:08 pm
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Hi guy's sorry to ask you but I really do need some help on this...
To start the story I must return to 5/6 years ago... As many of you brothers know, my ex left me for another guy, (best mates brother in law), We were together for 28 and a half years, and married for 26 of them (happily I thought), she done many other things that really put the depression bugs onto me for many years, which I don't need to explain in detail (suffice to say, it was bad). However, because I am grown up now, we speak regularly and on a friendly basis, even after getting divorce in April.
Anyway last night at 6.30 she came to my house for a chat, because she was feeling a little (cant remember the word, she was thinking about 'our' life together) lets just say 'lonely'. Anyway we got talking about everything, you know the stuff, kids, grand-kids, old friends and family members etc. After about an hour or so she went into her bag and opened a bottle of wine, now I don't drink and she knows that, but she went in and got 2 glasses and poured me one-which I never touched.
She then got onto the subject of me and Keren and about my moving to China, at first it was like she was happy for me and moving on you know, but things started getting touchy, as in hitting the wrong buttons, to cap it all she begged me NOT to move there, citing things like she still loved me and would miss me, and how the kids would be upset etc. I have not been in her life for the last 5/6 years and Now she comes out with THAT??? She eventually left about 2 in the morning but not before she made a lung at me romantically, which was rebuffed.
I have (and I know what your going to say David50) fallen in love with Keren even though we've not met in person yet. Keren is the lady that I have always wanted, going to a new country and starting again is also something I have been thinking about since Novemeber 09, I think I know what I am/going to do but I would like some feed back on this, as it has got me soooooo confused. FFS I was/am going to start a new life why did she have to say this now???
HELP PLEASE
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Well ? What's the confusion? Whatever her feeling are it's her problem.
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Rob, you know that you have plans to move, you also know you can not live your life doing what makes other people happy, if you do in the end, every one is happy but you and Keren, brother, do what your heart has been telling you before the ex showed up, this sounds like your ex is trying to see if she still has a little control over you and incase she didn't she threw in the kids and incase that wasn't enough, she tryed to play the romance card to hold you here for further abuse, now you have to ask yourself, do I like, maybe still love this woman and if so or not, will I let her run my life again? and then you need to ask yourself, do I really love Keren and do I really want to move to China?
Brother if you answered that last question with a yes, without thinking then what is the confussion, you have to live your life the way that makes you happy and if that is being in China with Keren then do it and don't look back and have a good life, if your kids have anything to do with your going or not, then think of it this way, if they really want to see you, they can go to China for a visit, don't pass up your future because of the ex trying to do the control thing on your head.
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Mate, take a deep breath and clear your mind.
You need to do what makes you happy ... life is too short to try and make everyone else in the world happy, especially when it makes you miserable. I suspect that if you stay she'll do this whenever you try to form another relationship.
The Important Stuff
Does thinking of Keren and you give you that pleasant glow (the warm fuzzies)?
From what you've said it probably does ...
4 simple steps:
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- Fly to China
- Grab Keren
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- Profit !!!
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Rob,
Vince and MM, are right. You don't have the problem, your Ex does. She may even be feeling that she made a mistake 5 or 6 years ago. Again, that's her problem too.
Don't live your life for others Rob, live it for yourself, if that includes your lady keren, ....then so be it!!
Forget the crap about the Kids missing you, ...your not cutting yourself off from them, your just moving to a place that's a bit more difficult to have regular face to face contact. But you still have your and their computers and the phone. I wouldn't think they are young kids now anyway.... are they ??
As i told you before Rob, unlike many others here, you've put in the work and the effort. The only hurdle as such you have, is the first face to face meeting... No one knows how that will go, at least you've done as much as you can as a basis for that meeting...right ??
David.....
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I guess that the 24-hour rule is applicable about the question with you ex wife too. I can only speak for myself as everyone else does. My suggestion is like everyone else: go to China and meet your Lady face to face. After that you can make a decision about your life. Don't let your ex wife interfere with what decision you will make. Think of your self first...
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Rob, let me tell you what is happening with me right now. After all of the bad things that have happened and the hell my ex has put me through and I am still trying to pay off, last week she starts coming over to the house every day. She's friendly, nice, giving, and actually pleasant to be around. The one thing she has not done is apologize for the hell she has and is putting me through. She absolutely destroyed my credit. She has not talked about anything that would remotely tell me that she realizes that she has made a mistake.
I can tell she wants to come back because life isn't what she wants it to be. There is also the issue of control, she doesn't have it anymore. It appears that she wants it back. Furthermore I am happier now more than I have been in a long time. I've lost almost 30 pounds and it shows so women are taking notice. My two girls realize I am not the bad man they thought I was, an idea planted by their mother. My son and I, well that is another story. He is just like his mother. (personality)
Rob, I still have love for her, haven't completely got over her, and I realize some of this is my fault but if she were to ask me if it were OK to come back home the answer would not only be no but HELL NO.
Even if she recognized what she did that was so wrong and apologized, too much has happened and I am not willing to take another chance on her. I have come the place that JimB has on American women; and we both are Georgia boys.
I won't tell you what you need to answer for yourself but I have told you about me and my ex.
One last thought, American women always want their ace in the hole, something they can fall back on if things do not work out. I'm not playing that game.
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Shaun,
Ooooooo, ....Your a hard and determined man Shaun!! Not just Yes, but, HELL YES!!
I think that Ace In The Hole is going East from what i can tell, ...To a beautiful little Chinese Girl!! haha!!
David.....
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I had told my Ex when we were dating, Once you go out the door there's no coming back. It's boarded up. And I stuck to that promise.
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Rob what the guys sead is right on the money i was with my EX for 22 years mate,we got back togaver after a few years but it just was not right i could neaver shake of her telling me she did not love me i thought i could but no so in the end i broke it of with her in the end theres just no going back after all the hurt thats gone on with each other mate take it from some one who tryed, sounds like you got a lovely woman weating for you so go for it life is too short all the best rob and chin up hey.
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Yeah Rob, there's nothing wrong with loving your ex-wife. I love my ex too but there's no way in hell I'd ever go back to her. I'll help her out, do what I can, I'll cry at her funeral but I'll never live with her again, some things can never be forgiven.
here's a quote from a novel I read once that really captures that:
The fear, it was allways there. Fear of rejection, fear of unrequieted hope and love, fear of feelings still below the surface in me. It was all mixed in the blender and poured smooth as a milkshake in to my cup until it was filled to the very edge. So full that if I were to move even a step it would spill over the sides. Therefore I couldn't move. I stood paralyzed. I stayed home and lived out of a box.
I'm a believer in the single-bullet theory. You can fall in love and make love many times but there is only one bullet with your name etched on the side. And if you are lucky enough to be shot with that bullet then the wound never heals.
Roy Lindell might have had Martha Gessler's name on a bullet. I don't know. What I do know is that Eleanor Wish had been my bullet. She had pierced me through and through. There were other women before and other women since but the wound she left was always there. It would not heal right. I was still bleeding and I knew I would always bleed for her. That was just the way it had to be. There is no end of things in the heart.
Michael Connelly - Lost Light
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Rob
From what you say, the divorce was not caused by you....but by her.....
You never were a guilty party to it.
When your ex comes over and starts rabbiting on about the "good times" and how it could all be OK again...it is natural for you to feel a bit vindicated and to also remember the good times........it's a 28 year habit !!!!...just as hard to kick as smoking !
But never forget...THAT relationship is dead...even if you decided (!!) to have another go with your ex...it can NEVER be the same.
She knows what buttons to push, she is getting the message that she f#####ed up and that you are finally going out of her life...with your Keren......she dont like that one little bit !!
You have a RIGHT to your own life now...take it with happiness.
DavidE
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Shaun,
Ooooooo, ....Your a hard and determined man Shaun!! Not just Yes, but, HELL YES!!
I think that Ace In The Hole is going East from what i can tell, ...To a beautiful little Chinese Girl!! haha!!
David.....
David, the hard and determined is focused toward not making the same mistake twice. To do it justice I would have to tell the whole story and there is no reason to put everyone through that. But going East? You bet. There has always been a strong attraction for me and I like just about everything I read about Chinese women.
I know a woman who made the decision to marry a rich man. She did but it took a while because she wanted one that she was in love with too. They were married 40+ years when he died. Years later she still loves him. That is the kind of idea I am looking for.
Shaun
I had told my Ex when we were dating, Once you go out the door there's no coming back. It's boarded up. And I stuck to that promise.
That is exactly where I am Vince.
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I'll cry at her funeral but I'll never live with her again
Cry at her funeral? I told mine I'll dance on her grave.
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Rob my Ex cheated with what I thought was my best friend. Life ain't a revolving door. Feelings can ebb and flow like the tide, but honesty and trust are as rare as a flower that only blosoms once.
I f you like baseball then sure give her three tries then she is out. But baseball is a sport so just be carefull that she doesn't make sport of you.
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Keep on your present course Rob.
Not sure about your immediate family, though you talk of Kids and Grandkids. Maybe she was 'elected' on their behalf to try to persuade you to stay in UK. A liitle wine, a little soft talking and Rob's putty in my hands, I can imagine her saying this to them. Keep her out of your life man and look forward to a great future here in China with Karen. Its not long to wait now.
Willy
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Rob , what can I add ... that hasn't been said already ?
Your Ex cheated on you with some other Man/Men and after things don't go too well and she is un-happy , she can not stand seeing you happy with Keren either . So she decide's the old SORRY / REMEMBER us back then ? Tell her YES I do , and show her where the Door is . Out of my Place , out of my Life , and I will not share my HAPPINESS with you for sure . Done-Finished-Fertig-Kaputt !!!
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Guys, thanks to everyone who responded to my plea...
After many hours of soul searching and reading, and rereading all the replies that I received including PMS, I have decided that I am going to follow my heart, and my head (not little one), I am going to China to start my new life with Keren...
This was one of those times that come up between divorced or separated couples, when emotions (habits) come into play... She hurt me in a way that I would not be able to forgive if I did go back, it would always be in the back of my mind, if she can do it once she can do it again and the marriage/couple would never be the same.. So again I thank you for your help
I now understand that 'YES' I do love her and if truth be told, I always will, but I am NOT in love with her, like I am with Keren
The quote from that book, that is so true on my behalf, everyone's kind words got me through what was a difficult time, I will never forget this, if I was a drinker i would raise my glass to you all, cheers. You truly are a band of brothers...
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Rob,
An oustanding response - go with your heart. Everythng else will work out!
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Good Boy !!!
And next time (if there is one)...dont start your request for help with "sorry guys, I need some help"
Nowt to be sorry about...all of us need a help sometimes and I know you always return the favour. :):)
DavidE
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Excellent Rob, you won't regret it. Embrace and enjoy your future.
Shaun
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Good on you rob you now it make sence.
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Rob, that's good to hear.
This happens a whole lot. When it does you have to make the decision to either be faithful to the woman you're with, or to cheat. I always think that messing around is a bad move - even if you're pretty sure you can get away with it. It isn't just unethical, it also changes you for the worse. When you're filled with regret and guilt, how can you be a lion for the woman you love and adore? For me, trust is like a glass vase, when it's all smashed up and gone, there's no putting it back together again. It's all gone, mate.
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Happy to here this brother, you just made my day, now the wife and I can come visit with you and Keren sometime.
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Rob,
What can i say that hasn't already been said or felt. This is your life now, not your Ex's. Nothing wrong in staying friends with her, but her influence over your past and future emotions, should be now be Null and Void!!
Go forth and Prosper, your new life awaits you. Only you, ...can turn that new life into the success you want it to be. Were all rooting for you on that score, that and your succes with Keren.....
David.....
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Best wishes Rob! I wish you and Keren all the best indeed.
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More than welcome to come visit mate;-))
Anyone who is near me when I am there will be made welcome...:icon_biggrin:
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Great Choice Rob!!
Follow your heart to China, leave teh past in the past. As everyone else has said its just so not worth it to get caught up in that trap again. Your love and your life are in China so you should be too. If the kids love you they will be happy and supportive, even if it takes them a while to figure it out. You are still their dad regardless of your address. As Julia Roberts said in pretty woman, " Address is just geography", your life and love are there so go with no regrets and no doubts.
Good luck to you mate and follow your dreams
Brian
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Great Choice Rob!!
Good luck to you mate and follow your dreams
Brian
Was a bit worried about you Brian - have not seen you posting for a few days now. Maybe I just missed them.
Willy
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Great Choice Rob!!
Good luck to you mate and follow your dreams
Brian
Was a bit worried about you Brian - have not seen you posting for a few days now. Maybe I just missed them.
Willy
Yea I have been out for a few days. I wrote my lady about my divorce maybe taking 15 months to final and she was a bit messed up by the news. I almost lost her there. However today I finally received a reply from her in which she told me she loves me wants me to go over at the end of October so that is the plan.
Its been a rough couple of days to be sure but I think that everything is on the right track now. As everyone here on this thread said to Rob persistence and going after what you want will get you where you need to be. So it looks like I am headed to China at the end of October for a month.
So again Rob I say to you follow your heart and your dreams. GO get what you have worked so hard for and what you both want. You deserve it.
Oh and Willy thanks for noticing my absence much appreciated.
Regards to all, the best group of guys on the net!!
Brian
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Mike that's fine bro....
BrianMc... Brother I AM SO PLEASED about what Hong said, persistence is the key word here...
Showing up, and face to face talking IS what was needed, it's ok for some to think 'write her and explain' but that does not show the emotional reactions to what you are saying, or trying to get through to the lady...Well done mate, go and enjoy...
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Brian,
The best thing that has come out of your Divorce problems, is that your going to meet your lady with no thoughts of getting married while your there. Your going in October to meet your lady, and have that time, to get to know her on a more personal level. More importantly, you will find out, if all those other things like the chemistry, passion, compatibility etc,etc, is there between you both.
That, .....is just impossible to achieve by the written word alone. The best of luck to you mate!!
David....
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Brian,
The best thing that has come out of your Divorce problems, is that your going to meet your lady with no thoughts of getting married while your there. Your going in October to meet your lady, and have that time, to get to know her on a more personal level. More importantly, you will find out, if all those other things like the chemistry, passion, compatibility etc,etc, is there between you both.
That, .....is just impossible to achieve by the written word alone. The best of luck to you mate!!
David....
You are so right David, and thanks to you and Rob, and Mike for the support and words of encouragement. Yes as far as I am concerned this is about solidifying what we think we have. She is going to take vacation so we can spend as much time as possible together. By the end of that month I will either come back a single guy again or I will be engaged. As i said in other posts I have never fallen so hard so fast especially to someone I have never met. I know David these words make you cringe but I am who I am.
Also my divorce may actually be complete by christmas, and if that is the case and everything works well on my trip, dare I say it I could get married early in the new year!! Valentines day perhaps? hahah wouldnt that be a romantics dream eh?
Stay in China do some teaching and apply for her visa to Canada as well. That way we would not have to be parted waiting for the Canadian government to process the visa. Then back here to Canada and we can decide where we want to live from there.
Anyway thats the plan, and sorry Rob dont mean to hijack your thread. Back to your regularly scheduled program hehe.
Regards,
Brian
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Brian,
same plan here, I leave for my trip one week from today !!! and visit for 3 weeks... she will be with me everyday, as she has cleared her calendar.
I will either come back a single guy again or I will be engaged, same as you stated!
and the next step is to plan another trip and the wedding, does it seem like a dream, sometimes it does, but one I will chase after to see if it can be turned real.
seems like we have a lot in common ! :)
Mike
Yea Mike it sure does, except you are going in 1 week lucky you!! Best of luck on your trip I know it will work out well. As always keep us posted and everything that happens (well maybe except the bedroom parts if any). Its always so great to hear how others progress through their trips and the many pointers the rest of us can get before our own trip.
Best of luck to you Mike
Brian
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You cannot be with someone for that long and not still have feelings for them. "But at some point, you have got to let go completely. No matter what they say, how has she changed? Has she really? I would go to China. Let me tell you it is the best decision I have ever made in my life. I am so happy right now, I cant get the smile off of my face if someone took a crowbar and tried. I love this new woman i have found like no other. But, I did have last minute jitters about my ex. we wrote and talked to each other two days before I left. of course she said it was against nature for me to come here and marry a chinese lady. She asked for more time to get herself sorted out. To which I replied, ehhhhhhh, wrong answer. Bye baby. That was it. She is calling my daughter getting updates i know. but, my daughter is behind me. So, if you are worried about your kids. Talk to them. If you still have a deep love for your ex, think hard at least 6 times then go to China and at least meet karen. see if the chemistry is there, If you do not, you will always regret it. You know you will.
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JimB thanks mate, I have decided to follow my heart,
And it is so true about having feeling for someone after the length of time we were together, The most important thing that was in my head was that, I AM in love with Keren, whereas I still love my ex, but in a different way, and that is through her being the mother of my kids, and the time we SPENT together..
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Mike ,
I was wrong, ....your not a'' little devil'' at all, Your much more than that, ....
....Your more of a ''Wolf In Sheeps Clotheing'' ..hahahaha!!
David.....
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Mike,
Wolf, means exactly that, ''a Passionate Man''. The Sheeps clothing, means that no-one would know it, from your outward appearance, or you demure!! So never lose that Passion Mike, even if you do keep it under wraps, ...so to speak!! ...hahaha!!
David....
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Mike ,
I did not turn into this "goodie goodie" as she called me, until 8 years ago when I turned 40 years old
One day someone is going to drop in an age that is somewhere near mine. Probably Maxx is the nearest although I do not know what is his!
Oh well happy days!!!!
Willy
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Sorry WIlly I don't understand what your asking me.
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Sorry WIlly I don't understand what your asking me.
Was not a question Maxx it was a statement. You said on one thread you were probably the oldest on the forum. Whatever your age I may be just ahead or behind as I have just passed 60 since moving to Zhuhai.
Old enough for free travel pass but not a pension.
Willy:icon_cheesygrin:
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ok I understand WIlly.When I said I was the oldest.I was talking about time spent on the forums.I'm not the oldest person on here.Youv'e got me beat by about 18 years.
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ok I understand WIlly.When I said I was the oldest.I was talking about time spent on the forums.I'm not the oldest person on here.Youv'e got me beat by about 18 years.
You youngsters really know how to hurt a guy Maxx!
Oh my God is that another tooth coming loose? and can I see another hair greying as I speak - "pass me the 'Just For Men' darling. No, not that one - the very large bottle."
Willy
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Well guy's it has been two weeks since I made the 'right' decision about this thread...:icon_biggrin:
But, to let you all understand, the one 'bad' habit I have is I cannot let things stand, I have to put a lid on it, the final nail in the coffin so to speak...:s
On Saturday afternoon I asked my ex (Susan) to come round to mine for a coffee on her next day off, which I found out was the following Monday, the minute I asked her this, her face lite up, and she got a grin on her face as big as a Cheshire cat, (remember the cat in the film 'Alice's adventures in Wonderland'), I forgot how beautiful she was when she smiled...
Monday morning came and I was nervous about the upcoming 'meeting' that was arranged, I knew what I was 'going' to say, I knew 'what' I had to say, but, I know 'me', I'm like a little pussycat especially when it came to her, I always was, would I falter? Would I fall at the last hurdle?:huh:. Anyway at 4.30 in the afternoon there was a knock on my door, I 'knew' this knock I recognised it straight away, it was Susan. I let her in, and the grin was there, she smelled lovely, and looked equally so, so I asked her to sit down while I put the kettle on... Once the tea had been poured, we sat and started to chat about 'our' last night, she told me that 'she' thought it would be better if 'she' gave me time to 'really' think about what she had said...The thought came to my head, 'WELL', if 'you' have given me time to think about it, 'DID' it stop you sleeping with the 'a...hole' you fucked off with...'NO', so this made it more sweeter what I knew I was about to say to her.
I started with "Sue, I do love you, with all my heart I do, and I always will, you are engraved on my heart. There was a time that you were in my every thought, I would just sit and watch you doing something and think wow, she is mine", or I would be at work and think, I wonder how Sue is doing". Lol I know guy's 'mushy' bugger I am... What I said made her go red with embarressment, and she tipped her head towards the floor but at the same time she outstretched her hand and got hold of mine. She looked up after a few minutes and said to me "I didn't know, I mean, I knew you loved me and I loved you, but I never realised 'how deep' you loved me".
I then said to her "I DO LOVE YOU, and if this had been 2 or 3 years ago, then I would have moved you back in straight away, But Sue, I AM NOT IN LOVE WITH YOU, there is a difference!! The feelings you gave me, I NOW GET FROM KEREN, she is in my everyday thoughts, I know I am not living near her, BUT I am moving there to do this, YOU took away your love to someone else, NOT ME, I am not to blame for this YOU ARE. Our kids are grown up, I AM only a few hours more from them, 'we' have computers, and there is always the telephone to keep in touch, and on the plus side it is another holiday destination for them and the grandkids".
Well the tears welled up in her eyes and she grabbed my hand tighter, but I pulled them away, at that moment I 'felt' so so sorry for her, it was then that I realised that she still 'did' love me, maybe she 'regretted' doing what she done, or her 'affair' was going wrong I don't know, and to be perfectly honest, I DIDN'T CARE, that was the defining moment for me, this was when I knew I had moved on... After about an hour of pleading and begging (I do not like that word), and crying (on both sides) I held firm.
My final words when I opened the door to her was, "we'll always have 'our' good memories to think about".
On reflection, this thread has taught me, what no Psychiatrist could get through to me in years. I was 'stuck' in hopes and dreams and it was a 'habit' that I couldn't shake, so for that I thank each and everyone of you wholeheartedly. The lid is on the coffin and the final nail has gone in... What would be better living in a 'new relationship' with my ex or starting a 'new life' with Keren, well gents too be perfectly honest, there is no comparison, there is NO CHOICE to be made...
Thanks
Rob
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Well said Rob,
But tell me when did you stop writing for Mills and Boon!!!
Willy
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Well done, Rob
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Rob,
What can i say, ...planned, delivered and executed in true style, by a real man with a focus on a new life!!
Where the old life, has been put to bed but the good memories will stay with you, and the bad a distant thought!!
Well Done, and Good Luck to You.....
David....
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Rob
You have just got through the last stage of grief..............Acceptance.
That is a very big growth moment for any man...you are FREE !!!
Now there is nothing in your way to a new life...congratulations.
You dont need any more help now in this specific issue...but anything else crops up...we are all here :icon_cheesygrin::icon_cheesygrin:
DavidE
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You may think you're a softy Rob, but you've got some steel in there.
Best wishes to you Rob on your next great adventure!
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Rob you did the right thing. Who knows what game the Ex was trying to line up?
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Rob, What you did took a lot of guts. going from the known to the unknown is always a big risk. I still have love for my ex of 30 years. No matter what happened. I know that I will be so much happier with my Mrs. Burk now. But it was still a big risk to take this leap. i know it is for the best and so will you, no matter what happens between you and Karen. You have broken the hold of the past and are moving forward in your life. Good job friend. Move on and live happily ever after. I hope with every thought i have that happens for you. Just know that whatever happens you have friends here that will pull for you and help you in every way that they can. Myself included.
Jim
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Rob , you are one Member that makes this Forum proud to be part of .
It takes a big Man ( no pun intented ) to make such a Life-changing decision in front of someone you loved such a long time and will never stop loving . You now will go and meet Keren , with no weight on your shoulder's . So much more relaxed and ready for a new Life with a new and wonderful Lady . Cheer's mate !
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Greetings Guys,
Well Rob let me also say congratulations and well done. Now there can be no thoughts on either her mind or yours that it is over, you still have the memories and you get your new life with the beautiful and romantic Keren. What more could a guy ask for?
Go and enjoy the rest of your lives together, you both deserve it.
Best Wishes,
Brian
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Rob, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm proud to call you brother.
Good form Rob, now you can be sure your heart belongs to Keren.
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Thanks to you all for those special words it means a lot to me, honestly...:icon_biggrin:
Willy maybe I should take up writing love stories???:icon_cool:
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Willy maybe I should take up writing love stories???:icon_cool:
Rob , maybe you should write your Love Story ... like I am . One just has to get started and from then on it just flows .
I tell you Guy's something right here about writing my Love story . As I went to the Doctor early last year , to have a growth on my Face ( neat to my Nose ) checked by my Family Doctor . It turned out to be Skin Cancer , which was about 3/4 inch in size . It shows in some of my Wedding photo's , looking closely . They wanted $ 2200 to cut it off my Face at that time . So I put it off all this time because I thought that is a lot of money with no Insurance at that time . As my Book is to show how much I love my late Wife and how brave she was going through all the Test's and Treatment's . Now that I have started to write the Book myself and finished Chapter one , I noticed the last few day's ... and could not believe it is almost gone , it's just a speck and continueing to fade away . Now , I know it has something to do , me writing that Book . Can't explain it , but somebody Loves me for doing it .
So .. you writing , could give you something special also . One never knows ?
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arnold I have already written an autobiography, from when I stating in horse racing as a jockey, until 6 years ago, it tells the story of what happens within a racing stable (warts an all), through to the present (then). I was in the process of of getting it published, (it was accepted when everything blew up with the ex leaving me).
I took it bad, through depression, lost everything including my business, and the book went to the back of my mind until this year, I lost the disc it was on, but had it already printed out, so I'm currently retyping it into the computer so i can reprint and send it off to the publisher again, although, i now ave the last 6 years to include...And have also started writing another book...
When I told Keren about it, she said that, 'maybe we will become the third book'...
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Hey I think that is cool you guys are writing books.I have a good idea how much work and dedication it takes to write a book.
When you write your books just do me a favor.When you write about me make sure you spell my name write it is MAXX.With two XX.Not one.Ok thanks alot for your support.And when the royalty checks start comming in let me know I will send you my address.
Of course you two will need to send me copies of the manuscript.I need to make sure that they are good books that are well written.
Just messing with you guys.But seriosly good luck with the books.
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I think I am giving away TWO free Books when their out . I think ... you Max deserve one of those . I'm not kidding , not because you helped me so much ... but because you helped so many on their Journey . Now the Signature is going to cost you , but the price of that depends on how many million copies I sell . Hehe
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arnold the autobiography took me 10 months to write out by pen, then a couple of months typing it onto computer. I know it can take years to write a book, but as you said, when I started it, it just flowed, especially if your passionate about it... It has (up to now, not including the last few 6 years)14 chapters.
My second one i have started has 3 chapters so far, but not in any hurry to write this one...
Mike, I know the comment you made was made in jest, BUT my friend, stranger things have happened...:icon_biggrin: Look at 'Lord of the rings'...
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Are we all writing books? I've been working on mine for like 15 years. When I'm in the mood to, that's part of the problem.