Changsha / Love Bridge impressions from a Chnlove rookie

[Martin]

Sarge is Jim Burke.  If you click ion the link I have in my last post, you can see the response as well.

[dude]

Your right Martin...we find our ladies through several different methods! What works for you or I may not work for anybody else! The problem we have here is people assuming women are bad from one agency and great somewhere else! For people that have never been here, this is a POOR and HUGE assumption! I know ladies that are signed up with P216 and are honest beautiful women! It's very sad to see people that have never set foot on China soil to put these ladies down! On the other hand...the agencysP216 methods and dealing with men, through EMF's, isn't  good, it's horrible! It's just unfortunate that some people here like to think they know something about this and they have NEVER been here! Actually I find it rather pathetic...ASSUMPTIONS are usually wrong...LOL :icon_cheesygrin:

P.S. trwme, I'm not assuming anything with your profile picture...in fact I'm not assuming at all! Also the writer of this thread posted a positive(end result) with his experience. I would never promote P216 or it's methods and I warned this person about this before they arrived here & had the chance to meet him...it just might be wise not to jump the gun about something you don't know anything about...I think it's great you found "a" lady your writing EMF's to in Wuhan & truly wish you success...but posting very negative things about women, you know nothing about, is wrong! I don't promote Changsha so vigorously, just stick up for the beautiful women here...especially when you are putting them down...Also I'm not the only person here, on this forum that has had problems with Wuhan women...sometimes it's better to do a lot of reading before you do a lot of assuming! You can read about these things here and other places...just use google and see what you find!

[trwme]

P.S. trwme, I'm not assuming anything with your profile picture...in fact I'm not assuming at all! Also the writer of this thread posted a positive(end result) with his experience. I would never promote P216 or it's methods and I warned this person about this before they arrived here & had the chance to meet him...it just might be wise not to jump the gun about something you don't know anything about...I think it's great you found "a" lady your writing EMF's to in Wuhan & truly wish you success...but posting very negative things about women, you know nothing about, is wrong! I don't promote Changsha so vigorously, just stick up for the beautiful women here...especially when you are putting them down...Also I'm not the only person here, on this forum that has had problems with Wuhan women...sometimes it's better to do a lot of reading before you do a lot of assuming! You can read about these things here and other places...just use google and see what you find!

Dude, I would suggest you go back and read my original response on this thread-I said nothing about the women in Changsha, my comments were directed at the agency. I did a ton of reading (talk about making assumptions?) on this site and thinking this through before I ever sent the first emf. As far as people's troubles in Wuhan, like I said, I've seen posts here describing problems in other cities in China with this stuff, including Changsha. I've seen guys talking about the same basic problems (outside of the translator/agency issues), whether they used chnlove, CLL, or Blossoms.com in regards to scammers from China and elsewhere.

You have problems with certain agencies, and going the emf route you have to get around that somehow. You yourself praised the Wuhan agency and the people who work there on another thread. I only chose to contact women from agencies I decided were working on the up-and-up. As far as the women, it seems to me you can get scammed by women from anywhere-if you are the type to allow yourself to be duped by not keeping your eyes open.

I'm not flying off to China on a lark, thinking I'll just meet someone after I'm there.  At the very least, I'm getting some familiarity with the agency, so if the woman is not real, they can hopefully help me meet another if/when I go to Wuhan, or wherever I land if/when I go to China.

[brett]

I have no firm proof but based on what I read here a while ago I believe one of the CLB ladies I wrote to was actually a translator. I guess she can be a translator and also looking for a man, but it's suspicious.

What I will say is that when I was a chnlove newbie I sure as hell wrote to a lot of CLB ladies. Their EMF revenue will be huge. Are they just exceptionally good at marketing, and thus extracting EMF money from newbies? Do they have the best looking ladies? Or is there scamming going on? I don't know. Funnily enough I don't seem to get the CLB ladies in my admirers any more - perhaps they only target newbies?

I got to the 4 letter stage with one lady, she sounded nice, but ultimately not a good match for me. I'm pretty sure she was a real lady.

[dude]

Dude, I would suggest you go back and read my original response on this thread-I said nothing about the women in Changsha, my comments were directed at the agency. I did a ton of reading (talk about making assumptions?) on this site and thinking this through before I ever sent the first emf. As far as people's troubles in Wuhan, like I said, I've seen posts here describing problems in other cities in China with this stuff, including Changsha. I've seen guys talking about the same basic problems (outside of the translator/agency issues), whether they used chnlove, CLL, or Blossoms.com in regards to scammers from China and elsewhere.

You have problems with certain agencies, and going the emf route you have to get around that somehow. You yourself praised the Wuhan agency and the people who work there on another thread. I only chose to contact women from agencies I decided were working on the up-and-up. As far as the women, it seems to me you can get scammed by women from anywhere-if you are the type to allow yourself to be duped by not keeping your eyes open.

I'm not flying off to China on a lark, thinking I'll just meet someone after I'm there.  At the very least, I'm getting some familiarity with the agency, so if the woman is not real, they can hopefully help me meet another if/when I go to Wuhan, or wherever I land if/when I go to China.

Trwme,

Nothing wrong with spending hundreds and maybe more money with EMF's...it's all good! Yes, I liked the agency in Wuhan. You can stay home for several months writing EMF's instead of flying on a lark...again it's all good...some of us post from experiences and suggest what could be more of a benefit, for the newbies here, it's your choice!

Please no more assumptions about the women here in Changsha, because of the pic I posted of a viagra sign and your A.M's...this is sold everywhere in China...so please don't assume the women here *EDITED*! I've yet to see any nude photos from this agency or as you regard as "SEXUALLY BLATANT BAITING"! If you don't like the A.M.'s don't read them or look at the pic's...again, as I have said, it's a matter of choice!

Have a great day! :icon_biggrin:

[ttwjr32]

Before you two continue and take this to a level that it does not need to go to i
would like to add something. are there and will there be a scam once in a while SURE
but for the most part its all good and when it doesnt work out then people tend to
think that or say that  WOW IVE BEEN SCAMMED. i think what we have with some of
the agencies is poor business practices that lead people to believe that they are being
taken advantage of. then the first assumption is SCAM, after that happens. When you
are trying to accomplish what we are trying to here on the net it isnot going to turn out for
the best the first go around. you have to treat this like you would with a lady in your hometown
that you would go out with and nothing develops. is that a SCAM? NO so we just need to move
on and continue the search. and we dont need to bad mouth every agency and every lady when
it doesnt work. there is no fool proof way of going about this other than use your common
sense and see what happens. i have been coming to China for 8 years now and i now reside here
but during that time i enjoyed good times and bad times dating the women here. but i never once
thought i was scammed. scammed to me is when your asked to send money after a few chats. and
i have never had that. go on dia and there its free and many of the women after 2 or 3 emails will ask
for money for something they need that to me is someone trying to scam you. have you really been
asked for that from these agencies i think not. just chalk it up to either a bad choice because the
two of you didnt hit it off or the agency didnt really have a good business sense and let a potential
payday of a SUCCESS FEE slip thru thier hands and move on. so lets get back on track here and put
some constructive comments that would benefit all the brothers here who are in the journey of
looking for a genuine and wonderful lady. REMEMBER we are not these ladies salvation from a life
of misery so when their is no spark or we are rejected for whatever reason dont cry SCAM SCAM

just my 2 cents on this