Hello all.

[Pineau]

Iceland. that cool! I just had to say that.  anyway.

Age. if your not comfortable dating your daughters friends then stay away. Also it may not make a difference to you now but as you get older it definitely will.  I am an example. Read my story.

Language. My first time out it made no difference and the communications problems actually brought a sort of energy to the relationship and brought us closer together. No my second trek down this road I find it a real pleasure to have found someone I can speak to right off the bat. Her English is not perfect but the amount she knows makes things so much easier.

EMFs...Chnlove....This is very serious advice. Get away from the EMFs as soon as possible.  Get direct communications with the lady ASAP. QQ video chat, telephone number.  DONT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER.  do not accept any lame excuses and buddy I have heard them all.  There is no other way other than you intuition to tell you you are talking with a real person and right now I would say your intuition is not actually working correctly. I spent months and $1,000USD convinced I was in love with the lady on the other end of the EMFs and found out that she was an entire fake and fabrication from the photos to the letters....all faked by the agency. And I consider myself a really intelligent guy phttt he he! 

When you are convinced that she is real and the one you want then you should start asking her about the fees. Introduction fees, success fees, marriage fees.
Good luck,  gerry

[Iceland]

Wow, you are making me scared, Gerry. But also confident that I am on the right track. Yes, I am most certainly going to take it to QQ and video chat asap ... or at least rather than buying more of these credits.

But ... can you inform me more about these fees? I am a little confused there. Why should I ask the lady about the fees? Do you think she knows all about it, but not the agency? How much are we really talking about and who is getting this money? I will of course send you one of my famous flying brooms if you can spare some time informing me in this field.

Bergur.

[Martin]

Iceland...fees vary from agency to agency.  Some have a meeting fee, while others have a marriage fee.  I have heard of members paying as much as 60 000 RMB, while I only had to pay 3000 RMB.  Its all part of a contract that she signed.

Then there is another Chinese tradition...not all families do this, but there is also giving money to the parents in a red envelope.  Keep reading through this forum, and you will see many references to this.

[Pineau]

Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. You just need to be informed and pay attention. Agencies associated with Chnlove almost always have some sort of contract with the lady about success fees. Be it introductions or marriage there is probably some sort of fee builtin to the arrangement.  One lady in Shenyang had agreed to pay  30,000 RMB to her agency to deliver me to the altar.  I narrowly escaped. Left Chnlove and went to CLL CLM and Blossom. They are pay sites but no fees.  If you have already discovered an interesting Lady on Chnlove then try to isolate her from them as soon as possible. The translator in the middle is a revenue source and they wil resist all attempts to let her communicate without their help.  Find out about the fees but dont sweat it until later. A lot can happen and yo can avoid the fees if you are creative.

Gerry

[Iceland]

Thanks. I will be creative if I am not creative enough already 

But can you, or someone, tell me ... The lady I am corresponding with has an Yahoo.cn mail account.

Do you think this account is monitored and viewed by the agency?

[maxx]

CN. does not always mean the e mail is controlled by the agency that your lady is registered with.There is no way to know who receives the email until you are in direct contact with the lady.Then you can ask her for her email address.

[Pineau]

and.... a different lady, also from Shenyang (same agency). I demanded and got her email address but no phone or QQ number. I wrote to her at her Yahoo cn account and she replied to me in better english than I ever anticipated.  I ran away and did not look back. Obvious to me, she was the translator or someone else in the agency.

If you can get her on the phone, that would be great. From there you can get her real email address and do a QQ video chat. Then you have the translator out of the picture.