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My first trip to China (Shenzhen and Nanxiong City)
« on: June 24, 2012, 06:58:03 pm »
Hey Guys,

First post, nice forum, good info  :)

I just returned from a business trip to China, I am a product developer and get most my products made there and this was my first visit to the factories where I outsource production. We have a fulltime Chinese employee who deals with the day to day stuff.

I tried to read up as much about Chinese culture as possible before going and for the most part I think things went well, my only advice on the business part would be that the Chinese do not wear suits! It's so damned hot and humid (well, for a Brit at least!) and I was severely overdressed and drenched with sweat! Next time I go it will be polo shirts and slack trousers.

Well anyway, enough about business! I live about 4 hours from the London airports, and the flight to Hong Kong takes about 12 hours, so by the time I got there my timezone was completely screwed, and I had to get from HK to Shenzhen which should have been simple but turned out not to be. By the time I got to the hotel it was about 11pm and I thought the only sensible thing to do was to grab some beers!

I only walked a block away from the hotel I was staying in to try and minimise getting lost on the way back, found a nice Irish bar which had some good beers on tap. Got chatting to some very friendly American guys at the bar and before I knew it the bar was closing it and it about 4am. I stumbled out of the bar and walked in the general direction of my hotel, so I thought, I was walking for ages and stuff looked the same, I was sure I'd gone past some of the stuff already, I saw a couple of girls walking a dog and I asked them if they spoke English, which they did, and so I asked if they knew which way my hotel was, very friendly they were, offered to walk me home.

I don't really remember the journey but I do remember them walking me into some dark alley, they opened a door into a small bar where all the lights had been off, the one with the dog jumped behind the bar and switched everything on and offered me a drink. Well, why not  thought, I didn't know where I was or how to get to where I wanted to be, beer seemed like a logical solution.

Quite suddenly 6 women appeared from somewhere! I turned to the barmaid and tried to explain that I was just a nieve businessman, and it had not been my intention to visit any house of ill repute, but their hands were everywhere. I asked the barmaid and asked her to make them stop, said lets have a drink instead. Anyway they all drank with me, I probably had 4 beers the whole time I was there, I was already past my normal limit, but those girls were knocking back the Gin 'n' Tonics!

Anyway I did eventually convince the barmaid to take me to the hotel (I must have, because I woke up there in my bed and I have no idea how I got there) the last thing I remember was the barmaid taking me to the cashpoint to pay the drinks bill, somehow I'd spent $400! It would have been cheaper to take them up on the services they'd clearly had in mind, but I have my own morals about that sort of thing so it wasn't going to happen.

Chalk it up to experience I guess! They next night when I went out for a beer it was so obvious, there was a street of these places on my way into the town, and there was the place I'd been - "Happy Bar". Damn, I felt dumb right then.

But nothing bad happened at least, and I've had more expensive nights out with 1 women so I guess I shouldn't worry too much :)

I actually really enjoyed it, can't wait to go back, now I'm a little wiser

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Re: My first trip to China (Shenzhen and Nanxiong City)
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2012, 08:07:34 pm »
I actually really enjoyed it, can't wait to go back, now I'm a little wiser

Welcome Luke, now this was an expierence alright.. but on the other hand.. your "Lucky Lukey" you were not taken for much more. What if you did not have the Money to pay your "Bill" at the time, you might have been missing some Limb's waking up in some strange other place.. but the Hotel.

Anyway, glad you make it out safe and watch you drinking especially in another Country.. can lead to much trouble.

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2012, 09:08:13 pm »
Ha Ha... Welcome to scam central. I had the same experience. You got off cheap.  My four days of frolic in Beijing cost me $11,000 USD.  Count your blessings and learn your lesson.
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Re: My first trip to China (Shenzhen and Nanxiong City)
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 01:40:45 am »
Yes. When I arrived here in 2009 I got taken for 38 rmb. So it can happen to the best! 8)

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2012, 04:58:38 am »
Another scam in Beijing is a rickshaw to take you from your hotel to the temple of heaven. The man booking the rides holds up three fingers and says just "three monies" . Well it turns out to be 3-hundred RMB after you have already arrived. You cant refuse because he has a group of friends that come out of the bushes if you start an argument.  Here you can unravel the swindle by insisting on paying up front before you begin the journey.
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Re: My first trip to China (Shenzhen and Nanxiong City)
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2012, 07:49:23 pm »
Yes. When I arrived here in 2009 I got taken for 38 rmb. So it can happen to the best! 8)

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Dang it Willy...not you too!  38 RMB????  I AM SOOOOOO SORRY!!!! hahaha

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2012, 09:58:40 pm »
 
Yes. When I arrived here in 2009 I got taken for 38 rmb. So it can happen to the best! 8)

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Dang it Willy...not you too!  38 RMB????  I AM SOOOOOO SORRY!!!! hahaha
When I arrived here I got offered a 'taxi' to the hotel I had booked. He said it would cost 50 rmb which was less than I ever paid in a London taxi.  It was quite a way to the hotel so I paid up the 50.  Then of course it did not take too many days to ascertain that if I had taken an official taxi the meter would have read 12 rmb for that journey.

But at least I did arrive at that first hotel in a nice new Merceedes.

But apart from that I cannot think of one other occasion when I may have been ripped off. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 11:42:41 am »
Then of course it did not take too many days to ascertain that if I had taken an official taxi the meter would have read 12 rmb for that journey.

Now wait a minute here Willy. As I know, in Shanghai just getting into a Taxi costs you 11rmb plus the trip. In Guangzhou it was 12rmb plus the trip. So this can only mean, your good looks got you a "FREE" ride. I knew I should have combed my hair before getting into any Taxi there.

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 09:43:42 pm »
In Zhuhai the basic rate is 12 rmb and that takes you some distance before it starts adding up. 

In Zhongshan it starts at 7 rmb and that also takes you a way before it starts to add up further. 

I try to avoid taxis in Guangzhou as it is traffic jam to traffic jam there.

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 10:40:06 pm »
Here is my strategy for Guangzhou. The bus cost about 35 cents for as far as you want to go. In the taxi you can get just about anywhere in town for under 10 bucks.
From 7 am to 8 am, take the bus. Most people are still waking up or eating breakfast.

From about 8:30 to 10:00 avoid the Bus unless you enjoy standing up for long periods.
  this is the rush time. Traffic jam deluxe. Taxi or bus you are going to be in the same traffic except the taxi does not pull over every half mile.
  I prefer sitting in an air conditioned taxi in a comfortable seat for long rides.

From 10:00 til about 4:30 the traffic is moving pretty well and there is usually seats on the bus. If the bus is full just wait 5-10 minutes for the next one.
From 4:30 to 7:30, just go shopping or get something to eat. The taxis and the buses are all full. Wait until later to go home.
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Re: My first trip to China (Shenzhen and Nanxiong City)
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2012, 01:09:24 am »
Do you guys travel by rickshaw much?  The ones in Zhongshan were incredibly cheap, and a great way to see the town.  Most were electric powered pedal bikes.  In my wife's town, there are mostly gas powered rickshaws.  Never had a hand-pulled rickshaw ride, but there's a statue of one in Zhongshan.

We travel by taxi in Xiamen all the time.  Those guys are fast and competitive.  Sometimes too competitive.  We got off a bus one night and had to fight them off us.  They would not leave us alone. 
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2012, 01:58:11 am »
Yes Neil,
I now travel regularly in the electric powered bicycle rickshaws.  The first time ever was a bad trip. pouring down with rain and in a pedestrianise area. which did not stop these using it.  So in we get to go back to hotel. On the way and enormous swerve to avoid a car, nearly thrown out even with hood up and umbrellas to the front.

Took me at least 18 months before I ventured in another one.  But now that ingrowing Chinese mind is coming to the fore because they are cheaper for the short journey.  Mind you cheap as they are my wife still has to haggle over the price! ;)

Now use then a couple of times a week.

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