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Protests in China
« on: September 15, 2012, 01:37:05 pm »
Anti-Japan protests in China grow, turn violent  Published September 15, 2012
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  • chinajapandispute.jpg  Sept. 15, 2012: A Chinese demonstrator climbs over the fence and chants slogans during an anti-Japanese protests outside the Japanese Embassy in Beijing. (AP)
     
    BEIJING –  Protests against Japan for its control of disputed islands swelled across more than a dozen cities in China and at times turned violent Saturday, with protesters hurling rocks at the Japanese Embassy and clashing with Chinese paramilitary police before order was restored.
Thousands of protesters gathered in front of the embassy in Beijing. Hundreds tried to storm a metal police barricade but were pushed back by riot police armed with shields, helmets and batons. A few made it through but were quickly taken away by plainclothes police. Protesters also threw rocks and burned Japanese flags.
Protests were more orderly in most other cities, though in the southern city of Changsha protesters smashed a police car made by Mitsubishi, according to reports online.
Anti-Japanese sentiment, never far from the surface in China, has been building for weeks, touched off by moves by Tokyo and fanned by a feverish campaign in Chinese state media. Passions grew more heated this past week after the Japanese government purchased the contested East China Sea islands from their private owners. Though Japan has controlled the uninhabited islands -- called Diaoyu in Chinese and Senkaku in Japanese -- for decades, China saw the purchase as an affront to its claims and as further proof of Tokyo's refusal to negotiate over them.
In response, Beijing has lodged angry protests and tried to bolster its claims by briefly sending lightly armed marine surveillance ships into what Japan says are its territorial waters around the islands and by ratcheting up state media coverage. Some news programs featured explanations of historic documents and bellicose commentary.
Smaller demonstrations had been staged throughout the week. But they boiled over Saturday, especially in Beijing. Outside the Japanese Embassy, the protesters -- most of whom appeared to be students -- shouted slogans demanding Japan relinquish the islands and claiming China's ownership of them. The crowd grew larger than expected, prompting police to close off a main thoroughfare to traffic.
In Shanghai, about 200 police officers kept order, cordoning off the street leading to the Japanese Consulate and allowing protesters in groups of 100 to approach the consular building. Protesters had to register with police before they could cross the cordon and had to take their banners with them when they left.
The demonstrations came before an anniversary Tuesday that often sees anti-Japanese sentiment: the 1931 Mukden incident, which marked a step in Japan's conquest of Manchuria and onward to much of China in the 1930s and World War II. Activists have called for demonstrations Tuesday.
The uptick in Chinese anger over the disputed islands comes even though the Japanese government hoped its purchase would calm, rather than inflame the situation. Tokyo's nationalistic governor, Shintaro Ishihara, proposed buying the islands in April and planned to develop them -- something that Beijing would have seen as an attempt to solidify Japan's claim. By purchasing them instead, the Japanese government has promised to keep them undeveloped.
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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 08:16:37 pm »
Things are starting to warm up here over this China - Japan problem. Japanese factories are being closed to protect them.  Even one of my favourite supermarkets has closed yesterday as it is japanese owned.  This all poses a very big problem - Where do I get my NZ Anchor butter now?  Hopefull it is only temporary.

Seriously the TV News Channels are full of showing what China has in the way of hardware and they are showing many space taken pictures of what they have filmed of American hardware. 

This all comes at the same time as he Chinese were this week honoring the millions who died at the hands of the Japanese devils with vivid pictures of lines of Chinese people dispatched with a  bullet to the head and even worse attrocities. So this has added to the problems.  However financially China and Japan do hundreds of billion dollars of business with each other every year.

This is what the sirens were for this week as they were the sign for everything to stop whilst the dead were honored.

I am glad we are close to Hong Kong for a quick getaway. 8)

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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 09:43:08 pm »
I'll be there on Saturday.  Don't start the riots without me.

My wife told me that she's glad I'm not Japanese.  She wouldn't allow me to come now, if I was.  I hate to say it, but I'm a little glad I'm not American too.  With all the #MuslimRage going around, being Canadian might not even be enough to save me.
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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 09:45:36 pm »
Sad been watching this closely. I believe this has more to do with the abrupt ending of WWII , rather than the islands or the gas and oil which may be offshore. So once again it's the Americans fault.  :-[ If you think about the 380 Billion in trade each year (3years over a trillion $$) there better be a whole lot of gas and oil out there.
I think this is more about the fact, that China never got to do the victory dance in Tokyo the way we did. I also believe this wound has been exasperated by the fact that recently Japanese have been denying the atrocities committed. Mayor from a Japanese city saying the rape of Nanking never occurred. Japanese delegation asking for the removal of a monument in a park in New Jersey (I believe?) The monument is a small statue in memory of the Chinese women forced into prostitution by Japanese solders. The Japanese say they were just "Comfort Women" .....really "Comfort Women" c'mon....if that's the case then we didn't really nuke Japan .....we just dropped a couple of "Comfort bombs" on their asses.   
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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 09:57:09 pm »
On a serious note, I think we all need to shut the news off for a while.  It's the media that is driving this whole fiasco.  Stirring up the hate in China, Japan, and the USA and Middle East.  We need to remember that Japan and China are huge trade partners.  Not all Muslims are terrorists.  Not all Americans are responsible for the stupid movie. 

Seems like the media really does want this stupid 2012 rumor to come true.  If we really want to have a riot and hurt people, maybe we should be aiming our anger at the media that's stirring this pot.
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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 10:11:03 pm »
Neil is right -And I will apologize for my post, but I think that's what this is all about .....A Apology
Being American when we screw up....(and we do at every turn) we apologize....accidentally napalm a friendly village in Vietnam  whoops sorry
Accidentally bomb the Chinese Embassy    whoops our bad ........then we move on to our next screw up. We like to call it the American way
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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2012, 10:49:17 pm »
Now, now, the problem isn't a country or a government running a country. It's not so much a certain group. The big problem is they are Human Begins.

These "Human Begins" for many reasons think they are right to do some deed whether it is plain murder to genocide. It's done in the name of something they believe in.

btw in the middle east it is the radio stations there telling them to go out and riot. Not only American embassies they also attacked a German embassy?? No rhyme or reason to these type people they just enjoy it I guess.

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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 09:49:36 am »
I have to agree with Neil.  The news media fabricates thing for job security and more money coming their direction.

I was recently banned from commenting at local news paper because I called the editor out for censorship.  The reporter was blatantly fabricating information that just wasn't there.  I was involved with the story to a degree and knew what was going on.  When I pointed it out on the internet my comments were deleted and I got a private email from the editor saying that I wasn't being community minded and constructive with my comments.  I fired back an email saying that I was only trying to correct the reporters lies.  Then I posted it again.  They deleted it again and threatened me with being banned.  I copied his email in the post and call him a liar and person who did not believe the constitution was for everyone and a communist.  Well now I'm banned and my accusations were proven.

The only constitution rights the news media want to protect is their own and they don't want anyone else to have them.

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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 10:13:18 am »
Here they think it is a plot by the American Government to take peoples mind of the state of the US Economy before the election is 5 weeks or so.

The flotilla of China ships is getting larger and there is talk of 1000 fishing boats leaving China to fish around the island.

Its is big news here. Special programme of one hour on CCTV discussing it and showing what the Americans are doing in the area plus there is one small Japanese coastguard ship.

Glad we are off to UK next week. If anything blows up I may ask for political asylum there. ;D

Anyone coming then try to speak with an English accent as they are putting Americans in the same mould as Japanese.

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Re: Protests in China
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 10:27:48 am »
I have to agree with Neil.  The news media fabricates thing for job security and more money coming their direction.

I was recently banned from commenting at local news paper because I called the editor out for censorship.  The reporter was blatantly fabricating information that just wasn't there.  I was involved with the story to a degree and knew what was going on.  When I pointed it out on the internet my comments were deleted and I got a private email from the editor saying that I wasn't being community minded and constructive with my comments.  I fired back an email saying that I was only trying to correct the reporters lies.  Then I posted it again.  They deleted it again and threatened me with being banned.  I copied his email in the post and call him a liar and person who did not believe the constitution was for everyone and a communist.  Well now I'm banned and my accusations were proven.

The only constitution rights the news media want to protect is their own and they don't want anyone else to have them.

Shaun, the newspaper and editor most likely belongs to the O.M.G. so you don't stand a chance of getting an opposing view published, if you do manage to get your opinion published it will be used to label you as the non-tolerant racist.
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