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Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2019, 04:24:37 am »
There is no democracy in USA.

No justice either.

Anne Sacoolas was involved in an accident in the UK which resulted in the death of a 19 year old boy.  The police arrived and Mrs Sacoolas refused to speak with them claiming diplomatic immunity as her husband was a 'diplomat.  He was based at an RAF Base in Cambridgeshire. No idea what his real job is. But the base is reputed to be a USA Spy Centre.

Not only did she not speak to police but she was hurriedly flown out of the UK and back to the USA where it appears she has gone into hiding.

Trump should send her back to face the music
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https://youtu.be/ajg7KgNeY2o

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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2019, 05:17:18 pm »
Not sure of the status of this criminal as I just hear snippets on the news in passing but would hope that she is extradited back there to the UK to face the music. It has nothing to do with Democracy just a low life thats trying to exploit a loop hole to save her ass. Wont work though, jmho.
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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2019, 05:40:37 pm »
I try not to be political but since this thread is about that, I found the below piece quite compelling.

What say anyone out there?

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928, died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. (Editor's note)This was the last of his works:       

 
Civil War:  How do civil wars happen?

By Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

 
Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

 
The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

 
What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections. That's a civil war.

 
There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government. 

 
This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.

 
Your very own dictatorship.

 
The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

 
Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

 
If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him. He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda, and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is dragged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator. But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

 
When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries. The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship

 
Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding:  Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

 
Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

 
That's not a free country.

 
It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

 
Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

Mark
 
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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2019, 10:13:37 pm »
Well said Mark, and spot on! I have a gut feeling that this inquisition the Dems are conducting behind closed doors is going to lead to violence eventually. Of course, this is what the left wants so they can try again to disarm the people. I remember when Ted Kennedy sent one of his lackeys over to meet with the Russians in his attempt to oust Reagan, not a  word has been mentioned in any of the rags that masquerade as newspapers though. The politicians are fighting Trump tooth and nail because he is lifting the rocks up and showing the world just how corrupt the swamp in Washington is. They know if he wins re-election their cash cow is dead and many might face prison time.

 These little masked retards(antitwats) running attacking people for their political beliefs need to be treated as domestic terrorist or charged as gang members with hate crimes. Let some conservatives put some masks on and assault some liberals and see what happens then. You will have the racists race profiteers, ACLU, every democrat, and the racist southern poverty league out in force screaming at the top of their lungs.

  Truth be known, if it wasn't for that pesky little clause called the 2nd amendment we Americans would be called subjects instead of citizens.If for some chance that the socialists do manage to gain control it will be a very dark time for the USA, because many people will not comply. The only possible silver lining in this would be the eventual imprisonment or execution of all higher educated people that are pushing so hard for socialism, since the ruling class does not tolerate anyone that questions them or their policies. If they would study Stalin, Marx, Castro, and Pol Pot they might see that socialism is only good if you are in the ruling class.

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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2019, 10:19:53 pm »
Here is the article I was referring to in my earlier post concerning the Democrat Ted Kennedy.
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Ted Kennedy's Soviet Gambit
Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.
"On 9-10 May of this year," the May 14 memorandum explained, "Sen. Edward Kennedy's close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow." (Tunney was Kennedy's law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) "The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov."
Kennedy's message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. "The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations," the memorandum stated. "These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign."
Kennedy made Andropov a couple of specific offers.
First he offered to visit Moscow. "The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA." Kennedy would help the Soviets deal with Reagan by telling them how to brush up their propaganda.
 
Then he offered to make it possible for Andropov to sit down for a few interviews on American television. "A direct appeal ... to the American people will, without a doubt, attract a great deal of attention and interest in the country. ... If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interviews. ... The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side."
Kennedy would make certain the networks gave Andropov air time--and that they rigged the arrangement to look like honest journalism.
Kennedy's motives? "Like other rational people," the memorandum explained, "[Kennedy] is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations." But that high-minded concern represented only one of Kennedy's motives.
"Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988," the memorandum continued. "Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president."
Kennedy proved eager to deal with Andropov--the leader of the Soviet Union, a former director of the KGB and a principal mover in both the crushing of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution and the suppression of the 1968 Prague Spring--at least in part to advance his own political prospects.
In 1992, Tim Sebastian published a story about the memorandum in the London Times. Here in the U.S., Sebastian's story received no attention. In his 2006 book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, historian Paul Kengor reprinted the memorandum in full. "The media," Kengor says, "ignored the revelation."
"The document," Kengor continues, "has stood the test of time. I scrutinized it more carefully than anything I've ever dealt with as a scholar. I showed the document to numerous authorities who deal with Soviet archival material. No one has debunked the memorandum or shown it to be a forgery. Kennedy's office did not deny it."
Why bring all this up now? No evidence exists that Andropov ever acted on the memorandum--within eight months, the Soviet leader would be dead--and now that Kennedy himself has died even many of the former senator's opponents find themselves grieving. Yet precisely because Kennedy represented such a commanding figure--perhaps the most compelling liberal of our day--we need to consider his record in full.
Doing so, it turns out, requires pondering a document in the archives of the politburo.
When President Reagan chose to confront the Soviet Union, calling it the evil empire that it was, Sen. Edward Kennedy chose to offer aid and comfort to General Secretary Andropov. On the Cold War, the greatest issue of his lifetime, Kennedy got it wrong."
https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html#4209204c359a



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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2019, 10:24:27 pm »
Here it is 2019 and the Dems are still trying to sell the USA out in a bid to win elections!  ;D

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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2019, 10:32:21 pm »
There is no democracy in USA.

No justice either.

Anne Sacoolas was involved in an accident in the UK which resulted in the death of a 19 year old boy.  The police arrived and Mrs Sacoolas refused to speak with them claiming diplomatic immunity as her husband was a 'diplomat.  He was based at an RAF Base in Cambridgeshire. No idea what his real job is. But the base is reputed to be a USA Spy Centre.

Not only did she not speak to police but she was hurriedly flown out of the UK and back to the USA where it appears she has gone into hiding.

Trump should send her back to face the music
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https://youtu.be/ajg7KgNeY2o

Willy

Willy, I agree with you about the woman returning. I have always thought the diplomatic immunity has been abused by many countries in the past and gives the diplomat a free pass to basically act the fool and get away with it. I think certain crimes should be exempted from the protection offered by the diplomatic immunity such as murder, vehicular homicide, and sex crimes.
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Re: Interesting Video concerning Ukraine,USA, and Corruption.
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2019, 11:34:04 pm »
There is no democracy in USA.

"..Trump should send her back to face the music.."

Willy

hey Willy, Trump tried his reality TV play as best he could.. Trump meeting was 'a stunt,' says bereaved parents' spokesman https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/harry-dunn-family-white-house-meeting-trump-intl-gbr/index.html

What worked well, in him getting elected as a reality president... had the opposite effect on the grieving parents. But to Trump, in all honesty, it is all about HIM.. the moment "pomp & pagentry"... his reality presidency for the world to see.

What really did you expect Willy?