Yes david , I can relate to that Question and answer session , but many times I have come downstairs to be greeted with enough food on the table at 8 am to last me through till the next morning , the ladies in the house being of no help as they all have eaten long before , and I know whatever is not eaten will be served for the next meals until it is finished and then we start again ha ha , as Sujuan is working today I can write this with some safety , I hope , regards Robert .