Hello all
I did try to put a post up a couple of days ago, but as I was finishing my information just vanished into cyber oblivion. It took the wind out of my sails, and wasn’t going to start over at that time. No word back from the mods, so I assume it must be my computer.
My last main post was a week ago now.
February 4th and 5th. In the morning trans. and myself went to LiNa’s clothing shop and met her and her Mother. Very nice lady and I think she approves. So I passed that test lol. I bought a few things for my daughters and then we left. LiNa and the translator then went to Beihai to look at apartments. LiNa knew of some places to look and she has a friend who also was able to show us a couple of places. The drive to Beihai was good. LiNa rented a car for a couple of days. Her driving sucks lol. I can’t tell you how many times she did things so out of the ordinary that blew my mind. If she made some of the decisions she made in the U.S she would have been pulled over New York minute. One example was she accidently got off of an exit and then stopped. Now she didn’t pull over and stop she just stopped lol. I had to look back to make sure there wasn’t a car going to ram us in the back. She then puts does a U turn on the exit ramp and starts driving back onto the expressway instead of backing up or just getting off the exit.. A van was exiting and all I could think was omg I hope this guy slows down so we don’t have a head on collision. He’s flashing his lights and honking like “what the h*** are you doing”. That was just one example and I’ll leave it at that, but I think you get the gist of my meaning. The expressway was a toll road going to Beihai and periodically we would come up to a toll booth. She would hand over the card that was given at the beginning so they could scan it and tell her how much to pay. The interesting part of that I found out is when they scan that card it also measures the time it took to go from one booth to the next. If you arrived at the next booth too soon then they would give you a speeding ticket. If you were 5 to 10 mpg over the speed limit then you pay a 200rmb fine. It keeps going up the faster you go like any other speeding violation. Just a little of the big brother control this system has. I really don’t like that. LiNa did say the people with money don’t care and will just pay the fine at each booth. The drive and scenery were nice and most importantly we got a lot of communication in. We arrived at Beihai late in the day, but were able to take a walk on the beach. Nice beach with silver sand. Went to a big old restaurant close to the beach. The seafood was outstanding. I guess it should be, because what you have to do is look at the many aquariums and pick you dinner, so obviously the dinner is fresh. We went into town and walked through an old street in Beihai with bars mostly. Sleeping at night with the sliding door open and listening to the waves gave me the best sleep I’ve had in a long time. The next morning we looked at several apartments and villas with her friend. We went into town and ate more seafood outside at this restaurant. Again great fish of all kinds. We then drove to Fangchenggang to look at properties that LiNa said we priced even better. Newly build places also on the coast. Took about an hour to get to. She explained what the government plans on doing with FCG. Apparently they are going to build it like they did Shenzhen 25 years ago. It has already started. The grand plan is that what Shenzhen is to Guangzhou is what FCG will be to Nanning. We then drove home. Got back late about 10pm. Really good time and I was able to see LiNa’s personality.
Feb. 6. Back in Nanning LiNa and I spent the afternoon after her work hanging out and went to watch Avatar again. I have now seen it 3 times in 3D. I’ve had enough. The Chinese love that movie. The next day we hung out all day walking around. Her Mother made her take a dumpling rolled in big leaves. She spent a few hours making this and against LiNa’s wishes she made her take it. So that is when I knew that I must have her Mother’s approval lol. We ate it in my hotel room for lunch. It was outstanding. Sunday was pretty much the same. We took a nice walk around Nanhu Lake. It is a park surrounding the big lake. It’s a quiet place in the city. It doesn’t feel like you are in the city when in this park. One thing about Nanning and China in general they will live in smaller simple places generally, but they care about having nice parks. I’ve been to several in this country, and you can see the investment they put into it. It is an important part of their culture. Nanning has really grown on me. I like that city very much. It not the gigantic over populated city that Guangzhou, Shanghai, Beijing, and HK are. Not too big, and not too small. Just the right size for me, and there is enough to do. With about 5 universities here there are so many beautiful women. All I can say is wow. If you live in China you don’t need Chnlove, CLL, and Blossoms. You can just meet them during the day. I left Nanning Monday the 8th. LiNa and I keep in touch now on qq. She only knew a little English when we met, but it seemed like her understanding of the language got better each day. Intelligent woman. I let her keep my Besta so she could study with it while she was at work or at home, but had to take it back when I left. Hey we don’t know if we are a couple yet, so don’t call me cheap haha.
About P608 Nanning Ou Yuan Information Consulting Services Co. Ltd. – They have about 270 women in their database. My feeling is they will try to match you up with a woman, BUT they did not have any of the women available that I asked about. The reply was that they are either talking presently with someone or the age difference is too great. Both can be true, but I doubt not one of the several I listed were available. On the other hand some of those women don’t exist and are the ones they make a lot of money on. They are nice to deal with, and will go through the database with you to look for women that interest you. The trans. was very helpful, but I could read between the lines that she was out to make the score. She was doing her job and the nice part, is she is just being professional, but make no mistake about it she is out for success which means money, and in her words makes the agency look good in having successful marriages. The business is what it is. The more marriages you can do the better it makes your agency look. Nothing unlike in any other business. After softening her up on the trip to Beihai she flat out said that she would not be as accommodating if she thought two people were not going to have success in marriage. I don’t agree with that approach, but that is her way. She’s considered a veteran in this business. She’s been doing this work for over two years. In an earlier post I mentioned that the agency doesn’t charge their girls for meeting a man, however when I was alone with LiNa she told me that if she told the agency she was happy with me then she would have to pay 2000rmb. So there is a catch to the “no charge meeting”. It does come with conditions for the lady, so naturally I told LiNa to tell the trans. every time she called to see how LiNa felt to tell her that she still didn’t know, because it was too early. She told me that the agency charges 27000rmb for marriage. I can’t recall what she told me about what the initial membership fee was. She pulled her profile back in November out of impatience really. She only joined in July. I will ask her what she paid initially.
Today in Shenzhen I planned to go to P606 Xin Yuan Xin Yan but I decided against it for now. They didn’t have anyone I was interested in. It appears their database is small. I might visit if I don’t have any luck with the others. Sometimes they have women who are not on their list through Chnlove.
I did go to P670 Shenzhen Moonlove Information and Consultancy Co.. They have close to 300 women in their database. A bit difficult to find and it is right in the middle of the rat race in Louhu district. On the 12th floor the office is simple and small much like the office in Nanning. I saw about 12 to14 translators. I met Cindy who was translating letters for me before and most recently to two women. I met and sat with the owner and talked a while. Initially I sat with Cindy and told her why I was there. She kept trying to get me to keep the communication going with one of the girls I was writing to, but she lives in Baoding, and I told her that it was turning out to be too impractical for me to go there. I kept trying to tell her I want to see the women in Shenzhen, and she kept trying to keep me in the loop with the girl from Baoding. She tried to tell me that writing a few letters are best to see if the woman wants to meet. I spun it back to her that the girls will send the guys admiration letters by just looking at a guys profile, so I said the same thing can be done here (Oh and by the way the agencies can see when you place one of their girls in their database into your favorites. That is why you will all of a sudden get an admiration letter). I am in Shenzhen now and show them my profile if they are interested then we can meet. I went on to say that a man and woman don’t know if they have chemistry until they meet in person. I said that if their women are serious for marriage then they will want to meet me. I should not have to write letters first if I am here now. She finally relented and agreed to show me profiles in Shenzhen, but first I wanted to talk to the owner. I asked earlier to talk to the owner and when he returned we went into his office along with Cindy. His name is Peter and his English is limited. I would guess he is in his thirties. Nice guy, but also a businessman. He seemed sincere in their philosophy of finding matches for marriage, but I watch what people do not what they say lol. I asked Cindy earlier if they charge their girls to meet a man, and she said they don’t. I took this with a grain of salt, because of my experience with 608 in Nanning. When I asked Peter the same question he said they didn’t, but it could have been selective ignorance of they don’t charge the man. Chinese are good at this, and I’ve seen it before, so again I read between the lines. I followed up with how much they charge if two people get married. He danced around this question at least three times and the last time I asked he said that they leave the decision up to the couple. Now I know he was talking sh** now. I asked him to elaborate and I received rhetoric with a follow-up laugh. Earlier in our meeting he recommended I find someone within about 15 years of my age. I told him thank you, but I know what I want and the gap is a little more than that. After our meeting Cindy and I went back into the office and sat at a computer and went through their database. There was only one girl I was interested in, but she was engaged according to another translator there. I say according because I didn’t feel like they were totally honest and want to tell YOU who to match with. I didn’t like that feeling. I will admit I am pickier than the average person. I am sure many guys would like some of the women in their database. So I was left with the girl I was writing in Baoding. They said they would call her to see if she would be interested in flying to Shenzhen to meet me. We will see how that comes out. I asked who pays for her to come, and they said if she wants to meet you she will pay for it herself. I highly doubt this will happen, but Cindy said the girl is sincere and likes me. We will see. Personally I would be shocked if she wants to come here.
In summary I would not trust the Moonlove agency. Cindy was a sweet passive girl, but some of the other translators I could tell they would take your EMF money in a heartbeat. The owner wasn’t as forthcoming as he should have been. He shouldn’t be hiding what they charge for marriage. What I read into that is it is based on how wealthy a guy is and will charge accordingly. Again not good. I also didn’t like how I had to be insistent on seeing their database. At first they were reluctant to do so. If they are truly into it the right reasons then they should welcome you to look on the first request not several. The good agency in Changsha would have offered their database to me before I would have to ask.
The Nanning agency I would trust a little more, but you CANNOT be naive guys. They will take your EMF money too. If this doesn’t work out with LiNa I would return there. I would have liked to have pressed them about the other women. I will talk to the trans. more on qq and try to get more information. The other girl in the office was sincerely helpful too as the trans. was with LiNa. It was her first recommendation to me after the other women were not available. So she hit on the first one. That was good. If you ever work with her make sure you get what YOU ask for and not what she or any other translator thinks you should have. It is about you and your happiness. Do you think any of them would care if you ended up in divorce, because you married who they said you should marry? You decide.
I think that brings me up to date guys. Happy to visit these agencies for the team. Tomorrow I will visit the Oriental company here. I have a bone to pick with that translator who shot two mails to me in a row without my reply. I want to see the look on her face when I confront her on that.
Until next time
Jeff in Shenzhen
