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Yet another interesting article
« on: August 21, 2012, 11:40:46 am »
I don't even remember where I found this one yesterday, but I do know, my wife is ok, with me being here until she gets her visa. She has said she doesn't want me living in China permantly and I have seen some of the "influence" from the article.

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/mark-kitto-youll-never-be-chinese-leaving-china/



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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 11:35:34 pm »
I think this is the same article discussed a week ago ???

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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2012, 02:07:06 am »
Willy, Sorry, I didn't see it last week. I know there was an article posted, but didn't get to read it as the link wouldn't work for me and afterwards. I couldn't find it again.

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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2012, 06:53:15 am »
When I looked I could not find it again but remembered the photo at the beginning of it.

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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 09:28:07 pm »
 And they talk about us Americans being over-sexed! :o What's your take on this article W.T.L ?



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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 09:46:59 pm »
I say so what? Let them have their fun. Not like they will get pregnant and the home has to burden the price. Wait? When was this?Was Willy there?

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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 09:51:50 pm »
I say so what? Let them have their fun. Not like they will get pregnant and the home has to burden the price. Wait? When was this?Was Willy there?

I think that is why Willy went to China in the first place! ;D   
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 11:25:40 pm »
How about Rob, where was "He" on the night of Pleasure? :o

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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 03:59:22 am »
Come on guys...  Stop giving Rob and Willy such a hard time...  Oops, I mean difficult time.   All of you know they are beyond the age of Viagra now.  ;D

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 06:50:28 am »
Just saying Willy was in London a few months ago when Rob was readied for the "hospital" or were they over in that home? hmmmmm

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 11:26:50 am »
 Willy, that was me that posted the link to the article. It is in Shaun's thread "do you like Chinese people".

Make no mistake. Chinese are racists. They smile in your face but have a very sharp tongue behind your back.  They are really upset to see a (in Cantonese) Guilo with a Chinese girl. Dont let anyone telly you that stare is just  curiosity. I have been on the receiving end of that stare and it will burn a hole through unless you stare him down.  I also see guys do a double take and check out my wife like she is some sort of slut for betraying her race.  I just put myself between him and her and if he is with a lady I will do the same to her only I am much better at making a woman feel like a whore than he could ever be. If we are out for the day this happens at least once every ten minutes. Sometimes it gets the better of me and I am ready to go into battle with anyone just to let off some steam. Fiona has to restrain me to keep me out of trouble.
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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 11:37:49 am »
Wow.  I've never had that happen to me.  My wife lives in a very small town, and many of the people know her.  She is a bit of a celebrity now.  The other day an elderly couple stopped her on the street and asked her when she was moving to Canada.  She didn't even know who they are, but everyone knows she's the woman that married the foreigner.  She's quite sure I'm the only foreigner that has come to her little town.  I doubt that though.

I'll admit that we sometimes get stared at, but most people are polite and stop staring when I smile back, or wave, or nod.  Many people want to speak some English to me.  Some of her friends have asked to have a picture taken with me.  I'm often called Meigoiren, and sometimes I correct them. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 01:42:24 pm »
Neil,  we have our circle of friends and acquaintances. People we go on outings with and socialize with. They all have had a chance to meet me and  know me. They treat me like "their"  Meigoiren. I am the group mascot.  But Guangzhou is huge with a population of 16 million. Outside of my circle of friends I am shunned and frowned at.  And Fiona is treat very disrespectfully. Your lucky to live in a small town. I know that feeling from when I lived in YiYang. But the larger cities are full of racists and bandits. Not fond of foreigners at all. Really down on the Blacks, brown middle eastern and Americans of any color.

And I dont understand it. America saved China's ass in WW2. They were ready to break ranks and run for the mountains ,literally days away from being a conquered nation when the Americans forced Japan into an unconditional surrender. Do we get a thank you. No we get a "fuck you" stay away from our women.  There goes my blood pressure again....
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Re: Yet another interesting article
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 07:59:17 pm »
I say so what? Let them have their fun. Not like they will get pregnant and the home has to burden the price. Wait? When was this?Was Willy there?

Can I just say 'Please stop knocking what my Dad does in Private'  He was celebrating the 90th Birthday of a younger women in the time honored family way.

He keeps telling me he is not ready to rest in peace or rest his piece yet.  So I can only respect that.

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 08:55:19 pm »
Neil,  we have our circle of friends and acquaintances. People we go on outings with and socialize with. They all have had a chance to meet me and  know me. They treat me like "their"  Meigoiren. I am the group mascot.  But Guangzhou is huge with a population of 16 million. Outside of my circle of friends I am shunned and frowned at.  And Fiona is treat very disrespectfully. Your lucky to live in a small town. I know that feeling from when I lived in YiYang. But the larger cities are full of racists and bandits. Not fond of foreigners at all. Really down on the Blacks, brown middle eastern and Americans of any color.

And I dont understand it. America saved China's ass in WW2. They were ready to break ranks and run for the mountains ,literally days away from being a conquered nation when the Americans forced Japan into an unconditional surrender. Do we get a thank you. No we get a "fuck you" stay away from our women.  There goes my blood pressure again....

I am sorry to say that you really are getting into that dark abyss of thinking ' Should I really be here'.  I can understand that you really do not want to have been here this long but you are getting more critical of the Chinese as time goes by and I fear that Fiona will not be able to continually contain your moods.

When I criticise Americans I get all that crap about how they saved our country, No saved the world. No just on the forum but in real life face to face.   Now you are doing this to China. 

Why do you think Americans are unpopular with the older Chinese.  It is because America has now solidly assigned itself to Japan.  Everything Japanese is good everything Chinese is bad.  America will not even give an opinion on the latest island dispute but clearly states that the islands in question are covered by the treaty of 1963, I think, whereby American will assist the Japanese to defend any part of their territory.  Trouble is USA did not look forward enough. If they had the foresight to see how financially strong China was going to become it would have been goodbye Japan hello China!

I know they are not curious when the people see me with my wife. They are thinking the same as I thought as a young man growing up in London in the post war Britain.

  I was about 12 years old before I saw my first Black person and I was 18 before I was ever in a place to talk with them.  The immigration of Black people to the UK did not really start until 1954 when the first immigrants ship, the Windrush arrived from Jamaica. Then we saw racism.  No 'decent' woman would ever be seen out with a black guy.  They were only here to make money, buy a white girl friend and then go home.  (Much the same way we get looked at in China.)   Now in some areas of London a white guy walking along with a black women is enough to cause consternation on the street. It goes full circle.  Racism we had the worst kind in the UK. 

As my Chinese is not as fluent as Gerry's then maybe I do not hear the same things.   Maybe I do but do not understand what they say. But I certainly do not interpret a look the way that my mood takes me!  I do not need to be loved by the world.

The USA is different they have had a mixed population for as long as the USA has existed in its present form.   But I have seen racism in London in its worst forms. Signs on Pubs and hotels say 'No Blacks' just like South Africa in the Apartheid days.  I have seen riots in the streets purely on the basis of skin colour, no pretence at some other reason just colour.

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